Police ‘must investigate’ far-right group exposed by BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj3ejxgpv8jo
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Police ‘must investigate’ far-right group exposed by BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj3ejxgpv8jo
Posted by djpolofish
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“Pressure is growing on police to investigate a far-right group exposed in an undercover BBC investigation.
Leading political and legal figures have said the police and Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) have a “duty” to look at [evidence gathered by the BBC Wales Investigates](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn8xykr5v95o) team into Patriotic Alternative (PA).
An undercover reporter spent a year investigating PA and its members in Wales who were filmed saying the group should mimic political tactics used by the Nazis and migrants should be shot.”
They are a radicalising danger, they need to be seriously looked at.
Aren’t these the ones who wanted to annex Monmouthshire for England? There’s so many random groups of far right nutcases these days it’s hard to keep up.
the headline and the photo got me thinking it was the ramblers association.
They appear to be setting up terrorist training camps by [buying land in rural areas](https://nation.cymru/news/land-buying-firm-linked-to-fascists-buys-plots-of-land-in-wales/)
BBC should have contact police before releasing the report. Now they’ve had plenty of time to get rid of any evidence.
These were outside the Liverpool courts the other day doing a protest when the Southport terrorist plead guilty . I saw it on Billy moores all or nothing video on YouTube
Police have/are investigating them, it’s mentioned in the BBC report. The issue is they haven’t committed any crime or show any intent to. If the police/MI5 have reason to believe they will actually do anything other than being racist loudmouths then they can act. Nothing in the BBC report will actually lead the CPS to get convictions. Our anti-terror laws are actually fairly relaxed.
It’s great that more attention is being paid to far right extremists but the actual result of this report will be hindering police investigation and drive these people underground and to more extremist beliefs. If the BBC had evidence of this they should have approached the relevant authorities first.
So basically, the BBC desperately trying to run interference for Labour and Two Tier.
Actually this is more the remit of MI5 (and GCHQ). I know how Reddit generally loves to hate the security services for monitoring people who have not yet committed a crime but that is precisely their job.
The police are better suited to investigating crimes.
I couldn’t really see any clear crimes in the report. Plenty of substantial reasons for concern that would justify the security services being on the case.
I’m actually glad the UK is finally waking up to the domestic terrorism of P*triotic Alternative.
They’ve killed 0 people already so statistically the numbers can only go up!
Kier has told us that the media reporting on peoples criminal activities before a trial could cause it to collapse.
We can’t get told that a guy who believes in white genocide, makes ricin and has terrorist paraphernalia, regularly carries knives, attacked kids at school with bats and had been reported to prevent multiple times and attempted to go to his school to kill just the week before murdering little girls because it would have prejudiced his trial.
it will be impossible to prosecute any of these people due to the documentary.
Whole lot of people here being weirdly defensive of the neo nazis.
UK pensioners could all go to France, get on boats after throwing their passports away, and claim asylum they would be looked after better than the way they are being treated by this bunch of lunatics called the UK government
The BBC
“While he said he wasn’t a Patriotic Alternative member, Mr Phillips joined the group at a demonstration and privately told Dan “35 to 40 of us were prepping, arming ourselves” after being at a protest against [plans to use a hotel in Llanelli to house asylum seekers](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67064599).”
PA and EX BNP candidates family ran the town of Calne in Wiltshire for decades and the town recently gave one a civic award. I saw a blog about it. He is now Homeland Party after PA had a bust up. Hope Not Hate were reporting about PA long ago in 2023 and have details on their connections with other far right. Wiltshire is home of many Far Right and even councillors are connected with them.
More details can be found here
[https://x.com/SpeaksBritannia/status/1803380704547332245](https://x.com/SpeaksBritannia/status/1803380704547332245)
[https://hopenothate.org.uk/?s=patriotic+alternative](https://hopenothate.org.uk/?s=patriotic+alternative)
NEW BRITISH UNION…. this group is run by Gary Raikes who many Reform supporters are connected with. The trouble is that people have been unaware of what has been going on.
[https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/reform-uk-candidates-facebook-friends-fascist-leader-gary-raikes-b1163853.html](https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/reform-uk-candidates-facebook-friends-fascist-leader-gary-raikes-b1163853.html)
Have a good look around thier website… These people are British Fascists. The UK has a long history of fascism and many conservatives supported Hitler. John Amery Conservative was executed for supporting Hitler
[https://newbritishunion.co.uk/](https://newbritishunion.co.uk/)
Mark Collett is a former BNP leader. He was the subject of a documentary by the BBC and another with Russell Brand I think. I think he cried when it was revealed that the BBC journalist was Jewish.
Why does the far left get a free pass, but the far right doesn’t?
Cue Musk screaming that his fellow people making gestures that create speculation are being so ill-treated.
I don’t see how opposing your country being taken over by actual terrorists who blow up pop concerts, busses and stab little girls to death makes you a terrorist.
They can’t even investigate grooming gangs they won’t bother with this either.
Just in case anyone is unsure – Patriotic Alternative is led by Mark Collett who is unambiguously a full-blown neo Nazi.
Is this sub just getting a weird segment of UK society or is there genuinely a huge amount of people in this country that are just perfectly fine with Nazis and think we should just let them get on with it and stop harassing them?
If the history of the police/intelligence services infilitration goes by, they probably had a hand in making this organisation. These orgs are teh best way to get all ‘certain types’ in one place and have them surveilled, often ridiculed, if someone gets too big and needs jailing, an undercover agent can egg them on to do something illegal and easily prosecutable.
Every British far right and far left/environmentalist organisation has been completely riddled with informants.
Ah yes, this is the real problem. Not religious racists rape gangs… got you.
They can’t, if they investigate the group they’ll have to arrest half of their own force
Far right and far right both need hammering down on. Being dominantly left right or neutral politically is fine but being far on either side is always obnoxius and dangerous.