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    Axel Rudakubana live updates: Southport killer 'so happy' girls were dead, sentencing hearing told
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    Axel Rudakubana live updates: Southport killer ‘so happy’ girls were dead, sentencing hearing told

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    2. SuperrVillain85 on

      Liverpool Echo have live updates from court, and they’re describing in detail what happened. Absolutely gruesome.

    3. theabominablewonder on

      Whatever happened to the argument about not naming/publicising those that commit such atrocities? Instead it’s almost 24/7 coverage the last few days, continually plastering his face across media and giving him notoreity that might encourage others of a similar deranged mindset.

    5. Shriven on

      Absolutely horrific to read – but incredible work not only by the police on scene, but by heroic members of the public who entered the building WITH police to rescue casualties whilst that bastard was still in there.

      Look for the helpers.

    10. Merpedy on

      I haven’t kept up with this but did see the headlines about him being referred to the Prevent mechanism. Did they reject him because he doesn’t seem to have any affiliation to terrorist groups beyond just being interested to a disturbing amount in violence?

      Seems like a massive oversight if so. They’re probably slammed with cases but there does have to be something for those vulnerable to radicalisation/joining groups on a whim because they have a disturbing fascination with inflicting harm

    14. GhostRiders on

      All of this could and should have been prevented. All the signs that he had a severe mental health problem when he was 13 after an incident in school when he brought a knife and attacked a pupil who was bullying him.

      The professionals who dealt with him in the aftermath of that innocent noted that he had a fascination with genocides and other historical attacks yet nothing was done.

      This comes down to a combination of Mental Health Services and Social Services being massively underfunded and no facilities to permanently house and treat young people who clearly need professional mental health treatment.

    31. nightsofthesunkissed on

      I’m confused by all the “he’s obviously severely mentally ill” comments. *Which* mental illness exactly is in evidence? “Child killer” isn’t a mental illness.

      As far as I’ve read there’s absolutely no evidence he was suffering personally with any mental illness at all.

      I’m not sure, perhaps more will emerge if he has a psychiatric assessment in prison, but all of this energy being put on “he’s mentally ill” currently feels slightly misdirected. Like it has really rapidly become a sort of easy answer with no concrete basis in reality.

      He was diagnosed as autistic. Many autistic people have fixations (e.g. trains, Lego, cats…) but his personal fixation was violence instead.

    32. englishgirl on

      Just in tears reading it. How horrific. I honestly can’t take my kids to a park or anything without worrying now and looking at the other people coming near.

    33. Sacred_Apollyon on

      There are those people who, whilst very, very few in number, so exceedingly rare in their evil, that they shouldn’t have the same rights as the rest of us. If we could only have a way of reading someone’s soul and determining that, yup, they’re evil so that they can be handled appropriately. I think killing children is possibly a good gauge. Notably when the criminal is “so happy” about it.

       

      “Slippery slope, what if innocent people get wrapped up in it, no-no on the death penalty…” Look. I get it. It’s lovely and nice to be so empathetic that even *manifest evil* is something you won’t condemn. But surely, at some point, some willing act is even so abhorrent, even the most twee and lovely people would have to go “Actually, you know what, fuck it, kill’em.” If not this, then what is that level? 4 dead children? 100? A genocide? A speed-run pogrom? Simply saying “AHhhhhhh! Mental health!” or “Autism!” doesn’t cut it either. That’s you rationalising such acts in a paradigm that makes it palatable to *you*. He doesn’t have any diagnosed or relied upon mental health issues mitigating things. He is *just* an evil shit. Yes, the photo is wannabe hardman energy and pathetic, yes, he was obsessed with violence, yes, he’s autistic. So fucking what? He killed 3 kids and attempted to kill others. There are millions of mentally ill people with actual diagnoses, obsessions, and conditions that see them largely divorced from reality and THEY aren’t usually running around hurting people let alone murdering folks. If you answer a nice “Well let’s just medicate him, something is very wrong…” So wrong that unless you medicate him into a coma, which is just a long-form execution where time is your weapon of choice, what do you do?

       

      At some point someone ceases being a someone and becomes just a danger to life for everyone else. At that point … I’m sorry, but why should the rest of humanity have to suffer their presence and potential future crimes? Why should we only, merely, lock’em up for a bit? 40yrs? He’ll still get out *eventually* and be able to potentially do other stuff. Even if he doesn’t, he still *did* what he did.

       

      I’m not *for* the death penalty. But I don’t think evil fucks like this particular person deserve to carry on living either.

    34. loonongrass on

      He’s a pathetic coward. He can’t even handle staying in the room to listen to the victim statements.

      Going on about how evil and scary he looks only gives him power. He’s a pathetic and cowardly little boy who could only get his kicks from targeting young girls because he’s too weak to go after anyone else.