Alibaba releases AI model it says surpasses DeepSeek – Chinese tech company Alibaba (9988.HK), opens new tab on Wednesday released a new version of its Qwen 2.5 artificial intelligence model that it claimed surpassed the highly-acclaimed DeepSeek-V3.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/alibaba-releases-ai-model-it-claims-surpasses-deepseek-v3-2025-01-29/

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  1. From the article

    >”Qwen 2.5-Max outperforms … almost across the board GPT-4o, DeepSeek-V3 and Llama-3.1-405B,” Alibaba’s cloud unit said in an announcement posted on its official WeChat account, referring to OpenAI and Meta’s most advanced open-source AI models.

    >The Jan. 10 release of DeepSeek’s AI assistant, powered by the DeepSeek-V3 model, as well as the Jan. 20 release of its R1 model, has shocked Silicon Valley and caused tech shares to plunge, with the Chinese startup’s [purportedly low development and usage costs](https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/american-ai-firms-try-poke-holes-disruptive-deepseek-2025-01-28/) prompting investors to question huge spending plans by leading AI firms in the United States.

  2. creaturefeature16 on

    Sorry, but big yawns. Benchmarks are completely useless metrics at this point.

    It’s like having a car that can do 0-200mph in 0.5 seconds…great, but too bad it doesn’t actually do anything to move the needle on transforming daily driving.

  3. Agitated_Ad6191 on

    Okay, up until last month it was all about ChatGPT, then last week we got DeepSeek and now this Qwen 2.5.

    But guys, wait until tomorrow to see what incredible AI I’ve cooked up in the basement of my parents house. It only costed me 85 cents, and it will far surpass everything what you’ve seen before. It will fix world hunger and bring peace and prosperity to us all.

  4. DeepSeek was completely open sourced including the model weights, and you can run it offline. Alibaba can improve its AI all it wants but it is still closed source and can only be accessed through their cloud. They are not the same.