“electric powered bicycle”. Sir that is very obviously a motorcycle. Are there no reporting standards whatsoever in the UK?
SuperrVillain85 on
>Ibrahim has since been convicted of murder following a trail at Birmingham Crown Court
If you want to kill someone do it with a… oh wait…
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Krags on
Fuck me this sub really has gotten utterly callous and unfeeling.
Odd_Guidance_7627 on
the social contract is breaking down. i live in an area full of these bike ba*tards and it’s never occurred to me that I should mow them down like grass. get a grip
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Lots of these Surron type bikes are stored in rented storage units. The rules say no more than a certain watt hour of battery can be stored , not even enough for a legal ebike, and the places are full of cameras. But I know they don’t evict them from my local lock up. I’m thinking of being there again when they turn up with the van and getting the number plate to pass onto the police and inform the head office of these bikes being stored. Take away places to stash makes it that little bit harder.
After-Dentist-2480 on
How odd that people are wanting to debate whether this was an e-bike or illegal motor cycle, rather than comment on a young man murdered for behaving like a tit on the road.
Are they suggesting that somehow he deserved to be murdered if the vehicle didn’t meet e-bike specifications?
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abritishwerewolf on
These comments justifying this guy’s actions are absolutely ridiculous. I’ve been annoyed by people on the road / in public plenty of times and have never felt tempted to murder them. Please. Enough of “well e-bikes are annoying” yeah so are screaming kids in public. Doesn’t mean you can walk over and punch one in the back of the head. Same shit here – e-bikers being annoying gives absolutely no one the right to try and murder them FFS.
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E-bikes may be an unlicensed nuisance, lacking any safety gear, lights, etc. That annoyance does extend to the number of delivery cyclists who do the same and cycle on footpaths.
E-bikes as in fully electronic bikes (which should be regulated as motorbikes and scooters), not e-bikes as in assisted pedal bicycles.
That does not justify running someone over, and vigilantism in general isn’t a great thing either. If this driver did this out of road rage, I would go further to say they’d do this to anyone in a fit of road rage
Awkward_Swimming3326 on
If we killed every tit driver on the roads we wouldn’t have any drivers.
FloydEGag on
So this guy murdered someone for, essentially, being a bit irritating? Jesus. I can’t fathom how some people’s minds work.
itsheadfelloff on
Whilst I certainly don’t condone it, I’m actually surprised it doesn’t happen more often. There’s been a rise of annoying, cocky kids on bikes and absolute nutjobs in cars.
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ManBearPigRoar on
Sometimes I wonder if these extreme comments are mostly bots designed to create an exaggerated sense of unrest in society.
ProfHibbert on
>Liam Jones – seen here on one of the electric powered bicycle
That’s clearly a motorbike, it doesn’t even have pedals
SerendipitousCrow on
This why I’m grateful most places I go have good bike paths off road.
I’m nervous in the road as a fat bastard who averages 10mph. Only takes one person fed up of sitting behind me if they can’t overtake and I’m in hospital or dead.
Krinkgo214 on
This is just going to keep happening until the police do their jobs and take them off the streets.
This is a bad outcome and it’s just going to escalate
Hobnob165 on
Or maybe you’re getting downvoted for victim blaming someone who was murdered.
I’m a bicycle mechanic and I hate derestricted e-bikes and e-moped as much as anyone as they can be extremely hazardous to everyone else on the road. But this isn’t the thread to make this argument, as no matter how hazardous a e-bike is, a driver who allows their emotions to control them and **murder** another road user for being annoying is absolutely indefensible.
There is an explicitly duty of care on UK roads, effectively the bigger the vehicle you are using the more responsibility you have for those more vulnerable, no matter what their actions are. As annoying as a wheelie kid is, if you are in a car you must recognise that you can do an order of magnitude more damage *accidentally* to them than they could ever do to you even on purpose.
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The driver should be flogged and then put down like a dog.
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“electric powered bicycle”. Sir that is very obviously a motorcycle. Are there no reporting standards whatsoever in the UK?
>Ibrahim has since been convicted of murder following a trail at Birmingham Crown Court
If you want to kill someone do it with a… oh wait…
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Fuck me this sub really has gotten utterly callous and unfeeling.
the social contract is breaking down. i live in an area full of these bike ba*tards and it’s never occurred to me that I should mow them down like grass. get a grip
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Lots of these Surron type bikes are stored in rented storage units. The rules say no more than a certain watt hour of battery can be stored , not even enough for a legal ebike, and the places are full of cameras. But I know they don’t evict them from my local lock up. I’m thinking of being there again when they turn up with the van and getting the number plate to pass onto the police and inform the head office of these bikes being stored. Take away places to stash makes it that little bit harder.
How odd that people are wanting to debate whether this was an e-bike or illegal motor cycle, rather than comment on a young man murdered for behaving like a tit on the road.
Are they suggesting that somehow he deserved to be murdered if the vehicle didn’t meet e-bike specifications?
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These comments justifying this guy’s actions are absolutely ridiculous. I’ve been annoyed by people on the road / in public plenty of times and have never felt tempted to murder them. Please. Enough of “well e-bikes are annoying” yeah so are screaming kids in public. Doesn’t mean you can walk over and punch one in the back of the head. Same shit here – e-bikers being annoying gives absolutely no one the right to try and murder them FFS.
E-bikes may be an unlicensed nuisance, lacking any safety gear, lights, etc. That annoyance does extend to the number of delivery cyclists who do the same and cycle on footpaths.
E-bikes as in fully electronic bikes (which should be regulated as motorbikes and scooters), not e-bikes as in assisted pedal bicycles.
That does not justify running someone over, and vigilantism in general isn’t a great thing either. If this driver did this out of road rage, I would go further to say they’d do this to anyone in a fit of road rage
If we killed every tit driver on the roads we wouldn’t have any drivers.
So this guy murdered someone for, essentially, being a bit irritating? Jesus. I can’t fathom how some people’s minds work.
Whilst I certainly don’t condone it, I’m actually surprised it doesn’t happen more often. There’s been a rise of annoying, cocky kids on bikes and absolute nutjobs in cars.
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Sometimes I wonder if these extreme comments are mostly bots designed to create an exaggerated sense of unrest in society.
>Liam Jones – seen here on one of the electric powered bicycle
That’s clearly a motorbike, it doesn’t even have pedals
This why I’m grateful most places I go have good bike paths off road.
I’m nervous in the road as a fat bastard who averages 10mph. Only takes one person fed up of sitting behind me if they can’t overtake and I’m in hospital or dead.
This is just going to keep happening until the police do their jobs and take them off the streets.
This is a bad outcome and it’s just going to escalate
Or maybe you’re getting downvoted for victim blaming someone who was murdered.
I’m a bicycle mechanic and I hate derestricted e-bikes and e-moped as much as anyone as they can be extremely hazardous to everyone else on the road. But this isn’t the thread to make this argument, as no matter how hazardous a e-bike is, a driver who allows their emotions to control them and **murder** another road user for being annoying is absolutely indefensible.
There is an explicitly duty of care on UK roads, effectively the bigger the vehicle you are using the more responsibility you have for those more vulnerable, no matter what their actions are. As annoying as a wheelie kid is, if you are in a car you must recognise that you can do an order of magnitude more damage *accidentally* to them than they could ever do to you even on purpose.
The driver should be flogged and then put down like a dog.