If young people got rid of Netflix and stopped eating avocados they’d understand that youth mobility is a terrible thing.
JFelixton on
But any deal won’t be reciprocal, in that the UK will most likely receive more workers from the EU then go the other way.
TopRace7827 on
66% of voters were robbed by ~~49%~~ 51% of voters
Thanks for that. So glad it got you what you wanted, less immigration, more money for the NHS etc etc.
Edit: Thanks for picking that up u/BeerPoweredNonsense
robrt382 on
“Australian style” isn’t what we had before Brexit.
To work in Australia you have to apply and get a visa.
So two thirds of voters think that there should be work visas available, for a limited time, for a particular age group, on a reciprocal basis with the EU.
Got it!
Edit: Here are the criteria for the Aus visa, I think if you asked most people whether they would approve of this Australian style system, they probably would:
*First visa (12 months) “Class 417” $650*
* Must be 18 to 30 years old (or 35 years old for some countries)
* Must have a passport from an eligible country or jurisdiction
* Must not be accompanied by dependent children
*Second visa (further 12 months) $650*
“You must have a passport from an eligible country or jurisdiction
*You can do any kind of work while you are here
You must have completed 3 months of specified subclass 417 work
*If you are in Australia, you must hold a substantive visa or your last substantive visa expired less than 28 days ago
*You can apply for a third Working Holiday visa if you meet certain eligibility criteria
*Third visa (further 12 months) $650*
*You must have a passport from an eligible country/jurisdiction
*You can do any kind of work while you are here
*You must have completed 6 months of specified subclass 417 work
*If you are in Australia, you must hold a substantive visa or your last substantive visa expired less than 28 days ago
Nosferatatron on
My conspiracy theory is that if our best and brightest were free to work abroad, they’d never come back
InanimateAutomaton on
Poll out tomorrow: “Two thirds of voters don’t want Europeans to be able to live and work in the UK”
Bugatsas11 on
That would mean that young Europeans would also be able to live and work in UK. RIGHT???
I am all for it btw
happyracer97 on
Despite originally being a remain voter, I am not supportive of this scheme. This is simply due to that fact that EU citizens will be able to get more benefits from this than Brits. The main reasons for this are language, salaries and availability of jobs.
English is spoken far more widely, and there will be far more EU citizens who can speak English than Brits who can speak a European language. Now of course we can say that’s our fault for not learning a language, but nevertheless it’s a barrier for Brits being able to work abroad.
Salaries generally are also higher in UK compared to most other European countries, especially for the lower skilled areas and so it will be far more attractive for EU citizens to work in UK than it would be for UK citizens to go to Europe.
UK also has far lower unemployment rates than Europe generally, so there would be more opportunities available in UK for Europeans than for UK citizens in Europe. Additionally, this will certainly put more downward pressure on wages in the UK.
Again, this is just my personal opinion. I love Europe and Europeans, but as a Brit, this is what I see as best for other British people.
G30fff on
Yes, and then what about older people? Is there a reason why we don’t want older people to be able to live and work in Europe?
AnyWalrus930 on
66% of people want all the good bits and none of the bad bits on a whole bunch of different things is essentially what led to a leave vote.
I’m not sure going through that list of items one at a time while we find out that’s not how things work in the real world is particularly helpful.
RedFox3001 on
I wonder how many of them would actually live and work in Europe?
What was the stat pre Brexit? I reckon it would be around 1-2%
RoyaleWCheese_OK on
Two thirds of Europeans don’t want UK people taking their jobs….
MDK1980 on
Yeah, same as the Australian scheme, why not? Go live and work in a foreign country for a couple of years, get some life and work experience, and then come home.
haphazard_chore on
Why can’t they just cap it. One person needs to leave to allow for another to come here? As opposed to just letting uncontrolled numbers move.
Turbantastic on
If only the thick cunts in little England and diet little England didn’t vote to remove an already existing right to live and work in Europe…..
No_Software3435 on
But it’s always the other third on the radio shouting how they’re being betrayed. Not to mention gutter press headlines.,
Late_Swordfish_6227 on
Hold up I thought 50+% didn’t want it?! They ain’t issuing refunds in Brussels
KaptainKek3 on
ITT people blame the EU for immigration rather than the utter ineptitude of the last Tory government, as usual
craigmorris78 on
Why just young ones? Let’s get our ability to travel, live and work back!
Thefdt on
Do they still want that if it means x many hundred thousand unskilled workers coming the other way?
Smoothoffaleater on
I want all Britons to be able to live and work in Europe.
ftatman on
Hang on, hang on. Aren’t there VISA schemes that people can apply to in Europe, just like we have here for them? Surely the ‘issue’ isn’t that people CAN’T go there to live and work in either direction, it’s that now all done in a controlled manner, where there’s got to be an actual justification with an application first. Or am I missing something?
Seems a bit misleading.
derrenbrownisawizard on
Imagine the people who don’t want this to happen. I couldn’t see the data in the article (and we can’t not assume that there was a ‘don’t know’) option- but there will be some. Bunch of selfish loons
Nima-night on
Unfortunately Russia didn’t agree that’s why we had Brexit
Maffayoo on
Just bring back schegen visa stuff allow people to come.and go legally, they was never the issue
The issue is the people turning up on their little boats with 0 credentials 0 paper work.
Those coming on legally were right
brainburger on
I wonder how many of them voted to stop them doing so, only a few years ago.
TisOnlyTemp on
Not just young. I want all Brits to be able to live, work and study in Europe.
gattomeow on
This headline says “two third of voters” by the way.
The median age of the UK (everyone from the newest newborn to the oldest centurion) is 41 years of age.
However since under-18s don’t have the vote, the median age of the UK electorate is likely in the 50-55 range.
“Two-thirds” implies that a large share of middle-aged people are very likely supportive of this.
The biggest opposition, as you would expect, is probably amongst the elderly (Boomers).
eeehinny on
Whoever you chose to blame for Brexit it’s now a fact that most in this country, and that includes some who voted for it, now agree it’s been a disaster. The sooner we start trying to repair the damage the better. I know many older people who voted remain for their children because their children identified with being European over ‘Great British’. Restoring some kind of European citizenship is the least this country can do for them now and in the future.
MissAntiRacist on
Majority of a tiny amount of people asked feel x. If only we could poll the country.
Forward-Net-8335 on
I want anyone to be able to live and work anywhere. Countries should not be prisons.
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If young people got rid of Netflix and stopped eating avocados they’d understand that youth mobility is a terrible thing.
But any deal won’t be reciprocal, in that the UK will most likely receive more workers from the EU then go the other way.
66% of voters were robbed by ~~49%~~ 51% of voters
Thanks for that. So glad it got you what you wanted, less immigration, more money for the NHS etc etc.
Edit: Thanks for picking that up u/BeerPoweredNonsense
“Australian style” isn’t what we had before Brexit.
To work in Australia you have to apply and get a visa.
So two thirds of voters think that there should be work visas available, for a limited time, for a particular age group, on a reciprocal basis with the EU.
Got it!
Edit: Here are the criteria for the Aus visa, I think if you asked most people whether they would approve of this Australian style system, they probably would:
*First visa (12 months) “Class 417” $650*
* Must be 18 to 30 years old (or 35 years old for some countries)
* Must have a passport from an eligible country or jurisdiction
* Must not be accompanied by dependent children
*Second visa (further 12 months) $650*
“You must have a passport from an eligible country or jurisdiction
*You can do any kind of work while you are here
You must have completed 3 months of specified subclass 417 work
*If you are in Australia, you must hold a substantive visa or your last substantive visa expired less than 28 days ago
*You can apply for a third Working Holiday visa if you meet certain eligibility criteria
*Third visa (further 12 months) $650*
*You must have a passport from an eligible country/jurisdiction
*You can do any kind of work while you are here
*You must have completed 6 months of specified subclass 417 work
*If you are in Australia, you must hold a substantive visa or your last substantive visa expired less than 28 days ago
My conspiracy theory is that if our best and brightest were free to work abroad, they’d never come back
Poll out tomorrow: “Two thirds of voters don’t want Europeans to be able to live and work in the UK”
That would mean that young Europeans would also be able to live and work in UK. RIGHT???
I am all for it btw
Despite originally being a remain voter, I am not supportive of this scheme. This is simply due to that fact that EU citizens will be able to get more benefits from this than Brits. The main reasons for this are language, salaries and availability of jobs.
English is spoken far more widely, and there will be far more EU citizens who can speak English than Brits who can speak a European language. Now of course we can say that’s our fault for not learning a language, but nevertheless it’s a barrier for Brits being able to work abroad.
Salaries generally are also higher in UK compared to most other European countries, especially for the lower skilled areas and so it will be far more attractive for EU citizens to work in UK than it would be for UK citizens to go to Europe.
UK also has far lower unemployment rates than Europe generally, so there would be more opportunities available in UK for Europeans than for UK citizens in Europe. Additionally, this will certainly put more downward pressure on wages in the UK.
Again, this is just my personal opinion. I love Europe and Europeans, but as a Brit, this is what I see as best for other British people.
Yes, and then what about older people? Is there a reason why we don’t want older people to be able to live and work in Europe?
66% of people want all the good bits and none of the bad bits on a whole bunch of different things is essentially what led to a leave vote.
I’m not sure going through that list of items one at a time while we find out that’s not how things work in the real world is particularly helpful.
I wonder how many of them would actually live and work in Europe?
What was the stat pre Brexit? I reckon it would be around 1-2%
Two thirds of Europeans don’t want UK people taking their jobs….
Yeah, same as the Australian scheme, why not? Go live and work in a foreign country for a couple of years, get some life and work experience, and then come home.
Why can’t they just cap it. One person needs to leave to allow for another to come here? As opposed to just letting uncontrolled numbers move.
If only the thick cunts in little England and diet little England didn’t vote to remove an already existing right to live and work in Europe…..
But it’s always the other third on the radio shouting how they’re being betrayed. Not to mention gutter press headlines.,
Hold up I thought 50+% didn’t want it?! They ain’t issuing refunds in Brussels
ITT people blame the EU for immigration rather than the utter ineptitude of the last Tory government, as usual
Why just young ones? Let’s get our ability to travel, live and work back!
Do they still want that if it means x many hundred thousand unskilled workers coming the other way?
I want all Britons to be able to live and work in Europe.
Hang on, hang on. Aren’t there VISA schemes that people can apply to in Europe, just like we have here for them? Surely the ‘issue’ isn’t that people CAN’T go there to live and work in either direction, it’s that now all done in a controlled manner, where there’s got to be an actual justification with an application first. Or am I missing something?
Seems a bit misleading.
Imagine the people who don’t want this to happen. I couldn’t see the data in the article (and we can’t not assume that there was a ‘don’t know’) option- but there will be some. Bunch of selfish loons
Unfortunately Russia didn’t agree that’s why we had Brexit
Just bring back schegen visa stuff allow people to come.and go legally, they was never the issue
The issue is the people turning up on their little boats with 0 credentials 0 paper work.
Those coming on legally were right
I wonder how many of them voted to stop them doing so, only a few years ago.
Not just young. I want all Brits to be able to live, work and study in Europe.
This headline says “two third of voters” by the way.
The median age of the UK (everyone from the newest newborn to the oldest centurion) is 41 years of age.
However since under-18s don’t have the vote, the median age of the UK electorate is likely in the 50-55 range.
“Two-thirds” implies that a large share of middle-aged people are very likely supportive of this.
The biggest opposition, as you would expect, is probably amongst the elderly (Boomers).
Whoever you chose to blame for Brexit it’s now a fact that most in this country, and that includes some who voted for it, now agree it’s been a disaster. The sooner we start trying to repair the damage the better. I know many older people who voted remain for their children because their children identified with being European over ‘Great British’. Restoring some kind of European citizenship is the least this country can do for them now and in the future.
Majority of a tiny amount of people asked feel x. If only we could poll the country.
I want anyone to be able to live and work anywhere. Countries should not be prisons.