Kier Starmer ‘must cancel Trump’s UK visit’ after Zelenskyy berated
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Kier Starmer ‘must cancel Trump’s UK visit’ after Zelenskyy berated
https://www.thenational.scot/news/24973512.keir-starmer-must-cancel-trumps-uk-visit-zelenskyy-berated/
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That state visit is going to be a shit show. Trump will have grown so unpopular in the UK by then, and Starmer/the King will look like imbeciles.
I would like to ask the writer of this article if they’ve ever shit on their own cat.
You know, as you do.
Ummm, no.
Like I get that he’s an absolute piece of shit. And realistically we should be looking at a European, Canada etc agreement that doesn’t rely on the US.
But let’s be realistic, our word against Trump matters fuck all. If we piss him off all that happens is Ukraine gets even more screwed, we get slapped with tariffs, and it becomes harder for all of us to help Ukraine, become more resilient and stave off boot licking sycophants like Farage.
If we are keeping him sweet. Let’s do that. We can do the other stuff we want/need to do in the meantime.
If you are stuck in a cage with a tiger. It’s not a good idea to punch it in the face. Throw it some meat to give you time to get out.
How did you cock up the spelling of his name when copying the headline?
I think Starmer might have to choose sooner or later if the UK sides with the EU or the US. I don’t think Trump and his cronies will accept much else other than a full commitment to them, and only half arsing our alliances with European states while trying to keep an insane US administration on side doesn’t do them or us any good either.
The pro-Russian bots getting in nice and early on the thread, nice to see them so enthused about this topic.
It’s very easy for the SNP and their client press to say this, but they’d do exactly the same as Starmer is doing if they actually had an Independent Scotland. He clearly has some influence over Trump, so he needs to keep calm and keep working on it. International diplomacy should not be conducted over Twitter.
And the visa of any American diplomat or military personal. We need to boot the lot out. Send a clear message, we are DONE!
A politician feigning a shred of integrity?
I’ve lived in the States for so long this is a bit of culture shock.
This meeting just proves Trump will look after no one but himself. If he feels slighted, you’re on your own. Who needs enemies when you have friends like Trump.
It’s probably not a good idea either.
When looking at the situation, the UK is in quite a unique position due to the fact that Starmer like it or not did do well with Trump by appeasing to him, to the point that even after all this in the Whitehouse, Trump still spoke to Starmer about the Ukraine war, further still EU nations and US relations are going to sour even further over a trade war Trump is already planning.
I do agree the US is becoming more unreliable and the UK much like a lot of Europe needs to move away from the US, but we simply can’t just go throwing our relationship with the US out of the window from one day to another, and especially over Ukraine, the UK is simply not in the position to do that, a lot of Europe isn’t in that position.
Honestly, I wouldn’t want to be in Starmer’s shoes right now, he is trying to navigate between allies with one side being completely unreasonable.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/720128/sponsors/new?token=dQJq9Bxmfos3JVd7cNK1
Petition to stop the state visit from Trump
No, let him come here and see what the people of the UK thinks of him.
No, he should go ahead with it and be prepared for battle.
Starmer has the chance to be our new “war time” leader.
He’s capable enough to stand up to Trump. We are in a cold war now, make No mistake.
Rolling out a second state visit is an absolute mockery of the whole royal organisation. We tend to do it to lock in or sweeten a deal when needed. What on earth are we going to get from this that we continue to appease Trumps ego with an “unprecedented” second state visit?
You should not appease dictators, or those like them. This is appeasement.
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Fuck it, shun him. As should every other nation who can clearly see Ukraine is the bullied and not the bully in this situation.
Why did Trumps conversation with Putin get to be private but his conversation with Zelenskyy be public?
No one thinks Trump came off well during that ‘discussion’ – time to align with the rest of Europe and rebuild the relationship. America won’t be the ones fighting Russians off their borders if it comes to it.
Let him in and go fucking hard on him with direct questions that will make him squirm, then kick him out.
Keep the state visit. Keep funding and arming Ukraine. Keep repairing ties with Europe
There’s no way Starmer wants this but he’s doing what’s best for his country. I loathe Trump but he’s the most powerful world leader right now and Starmer played him perfectly by stroking his fragile ego so ensure the UK remains in a relatively good spot vs other allies who are being threatened with tarrifs or invasion.
It’s awful, the visit will be awful, it’s embarrassing. But Starmer played chess to Trump’s chequers with this one
Trump (on purpose) acts as a toddler. The adult in the room should not escalate a tantrum…we just gave him the toy
If the visit goes ahead, Charles can remind Trump that he’s actually the King of Canada and that the Donald can’t have it. He could gift him a souvenir plate with his Canadian royal crest on as a consolation prize.
The invitation is from Charles, not Kier.
I hope it will go ahead, as I didn’t manage to boo Trump on his first visit.
Given Trump’s recent behaviour towards Zelensky – publicly berating him, cancelling a press conference, and undermining Ukraine – there is a strong argument for reconsidering his planned UK visit. If Starmer were to cancel it, it would send a clear diplomatic message that the UK does not condone Trump’s actions and stands firmly with Ukraine.
However, there are also potential downsides. Snubbing a U.S. president, even one as divisive as Trump, could strain U.K.- U.S. relations at a time when Britain needs to maintain strong alliances. It could also be politically risky for Starmer, as Trump’s supporters – both in the U.S. and the U.K.- would likely frame it as an insult to a key ally.
A middle ground could be to downgrade the visit and making it an informal or working visit rather than outright cancelling. This would allow the U.K. to assert its stance without fully severing diplomatic ties.
Charles is also Canada’s King. How can the UK PM ask him to entertain a President openly threatening a Commonwealth Realm?
I don’t want him in the UK. Although it would be funny to invite him, only to reject his entry on arrival due to being a felon and a threat to national security.
Although you know the signs and protests people come up with will be creative.
What a fucking day.
The consequences could be nothing or everything.
As much as we’ve distanced ourselves from the euro zone… Germany, France and the UK having a united front is very important for now.
I do agree, however, I suspect the State visit is purely for the King to remind Trump that he is Head of State for Canada as well.
Still, another letter calling Trump out might be a good idea.