> “Morale is low,” one senior party insider told The i Paper. “In opposition you’re irrelevant, so it’s very difficult to get people to care about what you have to say.”
Hard to get people excited about a leader who everyone knows could never win an election, and almost certainly will never contest an election.
Spamgrenade on
Maybe basing policy on culture wars for the past 5 years or so wasn’t such a good idea?
The-Peel on
Since becoming leader, Kemi Badenoch hasn’t announced a single new Conservative party policy and her greatest achievements so far have been;
* Claiming working in McDonalds made her working class
* Suggested she was going to cut triple lock pensions by “means testing” them
* Claimed women were being paid too much in maternity leave
* Tried to tackle the moral high ground on the grooming gang scandal despite having being the government minister in charge of these brief and refused to either raise the issue or meet victims of it while in government less than three years ago
I’d argue she’s even worse of a leader than Liz Truss, but there’s no clear vote winner waiting in the wings to replace her with so the Tories aren’t rushing to replace the captain of a sinking ship
RandyChavage on
This is like when Elon Musk went on Joe Rogan and complained people on reddit were being mean about him. Same question applies, have you tried not being a cunt?
cornedbeef101 on
Considering everything from the Brexit referendum to the lettuce, the Conservatives are going to need to come up with something VERY special to not be irrelevant again any time soon.
They deserve a decade on the naughty step and to be made to think of what they’ve done.
ftatman on
The only downside to the eradication of the Tory party is that they’ll just join/infiltrate other parties to advance their own interests – given we know they don’t have any actual principles that would stop them.
At least right now it’s fairly easy to spot them due to the big blue banner.
FrustratedPCBuild on
The Tories since 2016 spent years to say ‘no, I’m more bigoted!’ ‘No, I am, I want to be even more cruel than you! You just want immigrants to die whereas I want poor people born here to starve to death as well!’ while the country went to shit, unnoticed by their voters who were protected by the triple lock. Now Fauxrage’s mob are here saying ‘ha ha, you know those guys were just pretending to be hate filled bigots to get your vote but we’re the real deal, why have Coke Zero when you can have the real thing?’. The Tories are too invested in the whole Brexit fiasco to credibly rebrand themselves as a serious centre right party any time soon.
Duffman_76 on
Kemi Badenoch is just minding the shop till the next election , if she makes it to then but id expect her to be gone in 18 months, the Tories can’t stand being irrelevant and they certainly are at this time.
RedofPaw on
They do need to get used to the idea that they’re not on a holiday. It’s not a temporary blip. They’re actually out if power. For the next 4 or 5 years.
They’re the opposition. Playing silly culture war games will get them nowhere.
Vespasians on
Tbf i suspect a lot of this is not being in power and missing out on lobbying money. I’ve not seen these cashflow issues at a local level. I suspect it’s a Tory HQ thing
KomputeKluster on
Well, it doesn’t help you aligning with Trump/ MAGA and drawing parallels with your party’s mistakes. That’s not gonna help, at all –
“Well, take a look at President Trump. He’s shown that sometimes you need that first stint in government to spot the problems, but it’s the second time around when you really know how to fix them. And it starts by telling the truth”
Tory event, 23 Feb 2025. Source: Financial Times
dnemonicterrier on
Oh no what a shame, hold up whilst I start playing the violin and pretend to care.
ash_ninetyone on
No fucking shit. They’re horrendously out of touch. They’re focussing on culture wars that have no relevance to the issues facing voters than addressing their problems.
SmashedWorm64 on
Memo Badenoch sort of reminds me of a real life Nicola Murray.
rob3rtisgod on
But didn’t the Tories stop 350 million every week to the EU?
ox- on
Have you noticed that these thieves never have any money?
14 years of Austerity to pay off debt that doubled and then the covid PPE heist.
Street_Adagio_2125 on
Yet the same base of 23% keeps supporting them no matter how pointless they become
bateau_du_gateau on
I’ve said it before, there is literally no point to a Conservative Party that conserved nothing. Record high taxation, smallest army in centuries, uncontrolled immigration. As for Olukemi herself, she was raised overseas, she has no ties herself to traditional culture here. If she had been a year younger her mother Mrs Adegoke could not have exploited a loophole to get her a passport and we would never have heard of her.
Zero seats next election, let’s make it happen.
ramakitty on
it’s ok to fade away into oblivion when your time is over.
Woody-Pieface on
No less than they deserve. Absolutely wrecked Britain.
apoplepticdoughnut on
Have to wonder how she’d ever be relevant with a name like ‘Bad Enoch’. She’s probably the product of a bad joke amongst the Etonians in the 1922 Committee. “She’s called WHAT?! That one. That one! We vote for *Kemi*.”
CornishLegatus on
She’s just there to oversee the collapse so someone like Cleverly can be parachuted in and look all the better for it. He could have won the leadership, but he probably knew whoever took it would pay for the last 14 years of Tory Government and Rishi’s unpopularity.
Now they can run through an election cycle, let Labour become more unpopular (as all governments do) and then either replace her pre election for a (they hope!) popularity boost behind a new “untarnished” leader or let her totally fail and then replace giving the feeling of a fresh start. It’s brutal but knowing CCHQ (and unfortunately I do) that’s likely their plan.
dontreadthismessage on
Maybe they should announce some actual fucking policies that benefit someone who isn’t a wealthy billionaire then.
commonsense-innit on
they have become a product of a fickle shallow fan base
decades of blue club gerrymandering, has left uk pot empty, sold gb to foreigners, who return in kind with raw sewage
Asclepius11 on
Conservatives have led the sale of everything the Victorians they so admire, had built. They figured that all that public infrastructure would be better in private hands.
The private sector simply sweated the assets, exploited monopolies ran down the infrastructure, loaded up on debt, diminished worker rights, eroded worker pay, shifted profits offshore, degraded service, and failed to invest for the future.
Without public assets to sell, the right eats itself, deluded by notions of individual exceptionalism.
They’re finding out that society grows & stands from a degree of socialism.
produit1 on
She can win back favour very quickly by revealing who backs the euro sceptic think tanks that influenced Brexit and most of her party.
She won’t do that of course, the Kremlin links throughout senior Tories and the right wing press that they are propped up by are all tied together. It’s very much a sinking ship, will sink even faster with Kemi Bad-enough at the helm.
GroceryBright on
Good… On your way out, take Farage and his Reform muppets with you…
Ok-Ambassador4679 on
The Conservatives could still do good, **if they chose to**, by serving the British populace and then end up with attention.
Instead they choose to work for their paymasters and spout conspiracy theories to generate fear and headlines.
As a non-Tory voter, and seeing the damage they’ve wrought on this country, I’d be happy for them to be banished to the history books.
Efficient_Bag_5976 on
The tories are being punished for Brexit. And rightly so.
Underwhatline on
I read this as moral and money running low which is also true.
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> “Morale is low,” one senior party insider told The i Paper. “In opposition you’re irrelevant, so it’s very difficult to get people to care about what you have to say.”
Hard to get people excited about a leader who everyone knows could never win an election, and almost certainly will never contest an election.
Maybe basing policy on culture wars for the past 5 years or so wasn’t such a good idea?
Since becoming leader, Kemi Badenoch hasn’t announced a single new Conservative party policy and her greatest achievements so far have been;
* Claiming working in McDonalds made her working class
* Suggested she was going to cut triple lock pensions by “means testing” them
* Claimed women were being paid too much in maternity leave
* Tried to tackle the moral high ground on the grooming gang scandal despite having being the government minister in charge of these brief and refused to either raise the issue or meet victims of it while in government less than three years ago
I’d argue she’s even worse of a leader than Liz Truss, but there’s no clear vote winner waiting in the wings to replace her with so the Tories aren’t rushing to replace the captain of a sinking ship
This is like when Elon Musk went on Joe Rogan and complained people on reddit were being mean about him. Same question applies, have you tried not being a cunt?
Considering everything from the Brexit referendum to the lettuce, the Conservatives are going to need to come up with something VERY special to not be irrelevant again any time soon.
They deserve a decade on the naughty step and to be made to think of what they’ve done.
The only downside to the eradication of the Tory party is that they’ll just join/infiltrate other parties to advance their own interests – given we know they don’t have any actual principles that would stop them.
At least right now it’s fairly easy to spot them due to the big blue banner.
The Tories since 2016 spent years to say ‘no, I’m more bigoted!’ ‘No, I am, I want to be even more cruel than you! You just want immigrants to die whereas I want poor people born here to starve to death as well!’ while the country went to shit, unnoticed by their voters who were protected by the triple lock. Now Fauxrage’s mob are here saying ‘ha ha, you know those guys were just pretending to be hate filled bigots to get your vote but we’re the real deal, why have Coke Zero when you can have the real thing?’. The Tories are too invested in the whole Brexit fiasco to credibly rebrand themselves as a serious centre right party any time soon.
Kemi Badenoch is just minding the shop till the next election , if she makes it to then but id expect her to be gone in 18 months, the Tories can’t stand being irrelevant and they certainly are at this time.
They do need to get used to the idea that they’re not on a holiday. It’s not a temporary blip. They’re actually out if power. For the next 4 or 5 years.
They’re the opposition. Playing silly culture war games will get them nowhere.
Tbf i suspect a lot of this is not being in power and missing out on lobbying money. I’ve not seen these cashflow issues at a local level. I suspect it’s a Tory HQ thing
Well, it doesn’t help you aligning with Trump/ MAGA and drawing parallels with your party’s mistakes. That’s not gonna help, at all –
“Well, take a look at President Trump. He’s shown that sometimes you need that first stint in government to spot the problems, but it’s the second time around when you really know how to fix them. And it starts by telling the truth”
Tory event, 23 Feb 2025. Source: Financial Times
Oh no what a shame, hold up whilst I start playing the violin and pretend to care.
No fucking shit. They’re horrendously out of touch. They’re focussing on culture wars that have no relevance to the issues facing voters than addressing their problems.
Memo Badenoch sort of reminds me of a real life Nicola Murray.
But didn’t the Tories stop 350 million every week to the EU?
Have you noticed that these thieves never have any money?
14 years of Austerity to pay off debt that doubled and then the covid PPE heist.
Yet the same base of 23% keeps supporting them no matter how pointless they become
I’ve said it before, there is literally no point to a Conservative Party that conserved nothing. Record high taxation, smallest army in centuries, uncontrolled immigration. As for Olukemi herself, she was raised overseas, she has no ties herself to traditional culture here. If she had been a year younger her mother Mrs Adegoke could not have exploited a loophole to get her a passport and we would never have heard of her.
Zero seats next election, let’s make it happen.
it’s ok to fade away into oblivion when your time is over.
No less than they deserve. Absolutely wrecked Britain.
Have to wonder how she’d ever be relevant with a name like ‘Bad Enoch’. She’s probably the product of a bad joke amongst the Etonians in the 1922 Committee. “She’s called WHAT?! That one. That one! We vote for *Kemi*.”
She’s just there to oversee the collapse so someone like Cleverly can be parachuted in and look all the better for it. He could have won the leadership, but he probably knew whoever took it would pay for the last 14 years of Tory Government and Rishi’s unpopularity.
Now they can run through an election cycle, let Labour become more unpopular (as all governments do) and then either replace her pre election for a (they hope!) popularity boost behind a new “untarnished” leader or let her totally fail and then replace giving the feeling of a fresh start. It’s brutal but knowing CCHQ (and unfortunately I do) that’s likely their plan.
Maybe they should announce some actual fucking policies that benefit someone who isn’t a wealthy billionaire then.
they have become a product of a fickle shallow fan base
decades of blue club gerrymandering, has left uk pot empty, sold gb to foreigners, who return in kind with raw sewage
Conservatives have led the sale of everything the Victorians they so admire, had built. They figured that all that public infrastructure would be better in private hands.
The private sector simply sweated the assets, exploited monopolies ran down the infrastructure, loaded up on debt, diminished worker rights, eroded worker pay, shifted profits offshore, degraded service, and failed to invest for the future.
Without public assets to sell, the right eats itself, deluded by notions of individual exceptionalism.
They’re finding out that society grows & stands from a degree of socialism.
She can win back favour very quickly by revealing who backs the euro sceptic think tanks that influenced Brexit and most of her party.
She won’t do that of course, the Kremlin links throughout senior Tories and the right wing press that they are propped up by are all tied together. It’s very much a sinking ship, will sink even faster with Kemi Bad-enough at the helm.
Good… On your way out, take Farage and his Reform muppets with you…
The Conservatives could still do good, **if they chose to**, by serving the British populace and then end up with attention.
Instead they choose to work for their paymasters and spout conspiracy theories to generate fear and headlines.
As a non-Tory voter, and seeing the damage they’ve wrought on this country, I’d be happy for them to be banished to the history books.
The tories are being punished for Brexit. And rightly so.
I read this as moral and money running low which is also true.