When oh when will we start to protect British citizens. Total nonsense supposed to have no money and black holes yet we keep paying for these people to stay and risk harm to others. Diabolical decision.
2024-YR4 on
At least they are getting more inventive with their excuses.
McFry__ on
Surely he’s better off going where witch doctors are?
ConfusedQuarks on
Blindly adhering to age old conventions like they are some religious text will be the death of this country and most of Europe. Both the UN refugee convention and the ECHR are completely not fit for modern times. It’s ridiculous that not a single politician is even trying to amend them.
Vivid-Complaint6159 on
If he’s psychotic, then he has a serious medical condition that requires treatment immediately, **wherever** in the world he happens to be. Psychosis and other mental health conditions are real and cause enormous suffering. Be angry at the law if you want to, and engage constructively by lobbying politicians, but don’t make the mistake of directing your anger at a whole system towards unwell individuals. That’s just daft.
SinisterDexter83 on
Alright, at some point soon one of these *has* to be revealed as a hoax. I can’t believe no one has tried slipping a hoax in already tbh. I was *sure* the chicken nuggets one was a hoax, but that turned out to be real. Or the paedophile who can’t be deported because it would stop him from seeing his kids (who he’s prevented from seeing).
Is any parody too far at this point?
Somalian pirate rapist can’t be deported because he hasn’t made up his mind on Marmite yet, and doesn’t believe he will be able to reliably source the yeasty spread back in Mogadishu, and will therefore never decide whether he loves it or hates it.
Afghan serial stabber can’t be deported because he can only buy his favourite brand of knife in the UK, and the courts have declared it an Emotional Support Knife, thereby contravening Article 3 if he’s deported.
North Korean Nuclear Terrorist can’t be deported because he’s “really close” to finishing his dirty bomb, and preventing him from reaching this achievement would have an adverse affect on his mental health.
GetCanc3rRedditAdmin on
Surely the easy solution is to deport his ass. Save everyone time and money, the moment you start committing serious crimes like robbery then it’s zero tolerance and first boat back home for them. It’s not our problem if you might be in danger or persecuted at home, don’t fuck around in uk and you won’t get no trouble
_slothlife on
>After arriving in the UK unlawfully, the appellant applied for asylum on 23 July 2002. This was refused, but he was granted Exceptional Leave to Remain (ELR) to 5 November 2006. The appellant applied for further ELR on 2 October 2006 and it appears that, while the respondent’s internal file shows this as being marked as “void inappropriate”, no decision was communicated to him
So he’s an illegal immigrant, who came here at 13 years old, was denied asylum, but somehow got exceptional leave to remain for 4 years, was then denied when applying to extend that leave and should have left the country, but no-one told him (???) so he stayed. This was in 2006 as well, I thought immigration/asylum stuff was more competently run back then lmao
>The appellant was first convicted of robbery in 2005, 3 years after arriving in the UK, and has subsequently been convicted of the robbery that triggered his deportation order and (later) possession of cocaine with intent to supply
He was then convicted at 16 years old
>The appellant was served with a notice of liability to deportation on 20 February 2012 following his conviction for robbery and possession of an imitation firearm.
Told to leave/be deported (again) in 2012
>The appellant’s representatives made representations to the respondent on 12 March 2012 (within the deadline for doing so), which lead to the appellant’s asylum application being refused, the appellant being served a deportation order, and becoming ‘appeal rights exhausted’ on 13 December 2016.
And he became “appeals rights exhausted” in 2016. 9 years ago. It has been 19 years since his leave to remain expired. This is actually insane to read.
COVontheTyne on
Remind me again why Reform is gaining seats across the country?
AstraLover69 on
God damn here come the idiots trying to remove our rights. Please people, do your bit to counter this anti-ECHR movement before it bites us in the ass. These rights are the only thing protecting so many British citizens. People died for these rights. Don’t let grifters take them away from us.
Auburnley on
I think the courts fear backlash for overriding reasons of stay and fear being sued.
These people are not a legal threat to us, they are a violent, domestic and national threat. Why do we care for the persecution they will face in their own nations if that persecution stems from the person being violent or rash. War, conflict, natural disaster… I understand.
But your family issues are by and large your own. We cannot be responsible for saving people from their own families, even if abusive.
justarandomcivi on
From reading, this was over a decade ago. He has severe mental health sisues and seems to sincerely be working towards being a better eprson. Volunteering once a week, been through a mental hospital and on medication. Poor guy. He acknowledged he isn’t possessed but had been hearing voices.
Omerp-29 on
Who the fuck makes these decisions? Is there any petitions set up to fight against these panels or judges who make all those ridiculous choices to let all these scum stay in our society?
lesliehaigh80 on
That’s why reform are going to smash it at next election
subwaymegamelt on
Our lovely judges strike again! I urge some of you to look up how many pedophiles and other criminals they’ve let off or given very lenient sentences to. It’s almost as if they are protecting their own.
Top-Ambition-6966 on
I guess hats off to the telegraph for chipping away at the echr with cherry picked cases that the tide of opinion here has fully turned
ContributionIll5741 on
I suppose the OP has no anti ECHR or pro Reform UK agenda? Right? /s
Ok-Ambassador4679 on
Firstly, why are there a slew of ‘deportation cases’ coming out from 2004, 2006, 2011, etc, now? These are old news stories, but they’re surfacing all this now?
Secondly, it references the European Court of Human Rights as being responsible for not being able to deport this man. That’s true here, and it’s true everywhere in Europe where the ECHR applies (everywhere except Russia and Belarus where they actively choose not to sign up to it). It happens in Germany, in Sweden, in France, in anywhere else we feel is ‘civilised’.
These guys (right wing) want to remove the human rights from this particular individual and anyone else coming into the country. But they also want to remove ***your*** human rights, and your loved ones human rights, and the whole nation of the UK’s human rights. They’ll do it exactly the same way Priti Patel said Brexit would “end freedom of movement for foreigners”; by getting us angry at foreigners, and omitting the part where it would impact us… This rhetoric is dangerous – don’t believe we’re doing nothing, because we’re complying with international law that keeps you and yours safe from exploitative forces that’d have you working 24 hours a day for nothing.
GaijinFoot on
If this excuse doesn’t get me out of paying a TV lisense, why does it get him out of being deported for much more serious crimes?
vengarlof on
If you want to see change, contact your local mp’s and state you want to see this changed
Due_Ad_1404 on
The UK economy has a critical shortage of possessed people.
Panda_hat on
He can stay because his lawyers argued their case and found grounds that held merit.
They haven’t made special accomodations for this individual, just followed the law and his rights.
eat_a_pine_cone on
Read this as, man who is very unwell can’t be deported as it would be incredibly cruel.
EpilepticPunjab on
The judiciary that enable some of these decisions are breathtakingly dense
Rare-Primary-6553 on
Ah, a possession. Wasn’t the poor guy atal.
That explains everything.
The “Shaggy Defence”.
peahair on
How many more of these bullshit rage bait stories can one newspaper print?
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The actual tribunal should you not want to indulge the Telegraph –
https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/ui-2023-005258
When oh when will we start to protect British citizens. Total nonsense supposed to have no money and black holes yet we keep paying for these people to stay and risk harm to others. Diabolical decision.
At least they are getting more inventive with their excuses.
Surely he’s better off going where witch doctors are?
Blindly adhering to age old conventions like they are some religious text will be the death of this country and most of Europe. Both the UN refugee convention and the ECHR are completely not fit for modern times. It’s ridiculous that not a single politician is even trying to amend them.
If he’s psychotic, then he has a serious medical condition that requires treatment immediately, **wherever** in the world he happens to be. Psychosis and other mental health conditions are real and cause enormous suffering. Be angry at the law if you want to, and engage constructively by lobbying politicians, but don’t make the mistake of directing your anger at a whole system towards unwell individuals. That’s just daft.
Alright, at some point soon one of these *has* to be revealed as a hoax. I can’t believe no one has tried slipping a hoax in already tbh. I was *sure* the chicken nuggets one was a hoax, but that turned out to be real. Or the paedophile who can’t be deported because it would stop him from seeing his kids (who he’s prevented from seeing).
Is any parody too far at this point?
Somalian pirate rapist can’t be deported because he hasn’t made up his mind on Marmite yet, and doesn’t believe he will be able to reliably source the yeasty spread back in Mogadishu, and will therefore never decide whether he loves it or hates it.
Afghan serial stabber can’t be deported because he can only buy his favourite brand of knife in the UK, and the courts have declared it an Emotional Support Knife, thereby contravening Article 3 if he’s deported.
North Korean Nuclear Terrorist can’t be deported because he’s “really close” to finishing his dirty bomb, and preventing him from reaching this achievement would have an adverse affect on his mental health.
Surely the easy solution is to deport his ass. Save everyone time and money, the moment you start committing serious crimes like robbery then it’s zero tolerance and first boat back home for them. It’s not our problem if you might be in danger or persecuted at home, don’t fuck around in uk and you won’t get no trouble
>After arriving in the UK unlawfully, the appellant applied for asylum on 23 July 2002. This was refused, but he was granted Exceptional Leave to Remain (ELR) to 5 November 2006. The appellant applied for further ELR on 2 October 2006 and it appears that, while the respondent’s internal file shows this as being marked as “void inappropriate”, no decision was communicated to him
So he’s an illegal immigrant, who came here at 13 years old, was denied asylum, but somehow got exceptional leave to remain for 4 years, was then denied when applying to extend that leave and should have left the country, but no-one told him (???) so he stayed. This was in 2006 as well, I thought immigration/asylum stuff was more competently run back then lmao
>The appellant was first convicted of robbery in 2005, 3 years after arriving in the UK, and has subsequently been convicted of the robbery that triggered his deportation order and (later) possession of cocaine with intent to supply
He was then convicted at 16 years old
>The appellant was served with a notice of liability to deportation on 20 February 2012 following his conviction for robbery and possession of an imitation firearm.
Told to leave/be deported (again) in 2012
>The appellant’s representatives made representations to the respondent on 12 March 2012 (within the deadline for doing so), which lead to the appellant’s asylum application being refused, the appellant being served a deportation order, and becoming ‘appeal rights exhausted’ on 13 December 2016.
And he became “appeals rights exhausted” in 2016. 9 years ago. It has been 19 years since his leave to remain expired. This is actually insane to read.
Remind me again why Reform is gaining seats across the country?
God damn here come the idiots trying to remove our rights. Please people, do your bit to counter this anti-ECHR movement before it bites us in the ass. These rights are the only thing protecting so many British citizens. People died for these rights. Don’t let grifters take them away from us.
I think the courts fear backlash for overriding reasons of stay and fear being sued.
These people are not a legal threat to us, they are a violent, domestic and national threat. Why do we care for the persecution they will face in their own nations if that persecution stems from the person being violent or rash. War, conflict, natural disaster… I understand.
But your family issues are by and large your own. We cannot be responsible for saving people from their own families, even if abusive.
From reading, this was over a decade ago. He has severe mental health sisues and seems to sincerely be working towards being a better eprson. Volunteering once a week, been through a mental hospital and on medication. Poor guy. He acknowledged he isn’t possessed but had been hearing voices.
Who the fuck makes these decisions? Is there any petitions set up to fight against these panels or judges who make all those ridiculous choices to let all these scum stay in our society?
That’s why reform are going to smash it at next election
Our lovely judges strike again! I urge some of you to look up how many pedophiles and other criminals they’ve let off or given very lenient sentences to. It’s almost as if they are protecting their own.
I guess hats off to the telegraph for chipping away at the echr with cherry picked cases that the tide of opinion here has fully turned
I suppose the OP has no anti ECHR or pro Reform UK agenda? Right? /s
Firstly, why are there a slew of ‘deportation cases’ coming out from 2004, 2006, 2011, etc, now? These are old news stories, but they’re surfacing all this now?
Secondly, it references the European Court of Human Rights as being responsible for not being able to deport this man. That’s true here, and it’s true everywhere in Europe where the ECHR applies (everywhere except Russia and Belarus where they actively choose not to sign up to it). It happens in Germany, in Sweden, in France, in anywhere else we feel is ‘civilised’.
These guys (right wing) want to remove the human rights from this particular individual and anyone else coming into the country. But they also want to remove ***your*** human rights, and your loved ones human rights, and the whole nation of the UK’s human rights. They’ll do it exactly the same way Priti Patel said Brexit would “end freedom of movement for foreigners”; by getting us angry at foreigners, and omitting the part where it would impact us… This rhetoric is dangerous – don’t believe we’re doing nothing, because we’re complying with international law that keeps you and yours safe from exploitative forces that’d have you working 24 hours a day for nothing.
If this excuse doesn’t get me out of paying a TV lisense, why does it get him out of being deported for much more serious crimes?
If you want to see change, contact your local mp’s and state you want to see this changed
The UK economy has a critical shortage of possessed people.
He can stay because his lawyers argued their case and found grounds that held merit.
They haven’t made special accomodations for this individual, just followed the law and his rights.
Read this as, man who is very unwell can’t be deported as it would be incredibly cruel.
The judiciary that enable some of these decisions are breathtakingly dense
Ah, a possession. Wasn’t the poor guy atal.
That explains everything.
The “Shaggy Defence”.
How many more of these bullshit rage bait stories can one newspaper print?