It’s the Putinification of the world by pro-Putin Putinites putting Putin in power
-Spin- on
One in five Germans voted for AfD.
Four in five did not.
FearMyPony on
Post non-paywalled article or explain how each party was classified.
StupidSolipsist on
Why get so anxious now if it’s happened before? Just look earlier on the graph to the 1930s and 40s- Oh. Ooooooh. Shit.
Melanculow on
The answer definitly is increased immigration with no measures to compensate for a more competitive labour market and rising house prices while refusing to listen to 25% of the population at all and villifying them.
Jackthwolf on
As wealth inequality grows, quality of life drops.
People flock towards parties offering easy fixes by hurting people they hate, funded by the rich fuckers who are taking all of their wealth because it keeps the focus off of them.
Tax the damn rich before we end up repeating the history of the 1900’s
Substantial_Scene38 on
The russian disinformation campaign is real and ongoing.
DanishWonder on
Turns out all the Europeans bashing Americans for Trump have their own fascist battles to fight.
SatchmoTheTrumpeteer on
All the left has to do is slow down the rate of immigration and they win every foreseeable election. I guess they’d rather do nothing and cry when voters turn elsewhere, which is an odd choice but whatever
zeekoes on
Hard right, or anti-establishment?
Because all the Russian interference and social media bubbles aside, the political establishment have failed to find a solid answer for over a decade to growing discontent in society. Because the answers of hard right parties and the insistence of putting blame on migrants are wrong, they are the only parties providing answers that are not 40 pages long and mired in excuses and diversion of blame.
Social and economic divides have been at an all time high and more and more people are struggling and the answers they’ve got to choose between is “This is what it is and what it is is very complicated” and “Immigrants are stealing your jobs and destroying our culture”. When each year gets worse and worse that latter gets more and more attractive. At least it’s an answer and promise of change.
What makes me sad is that most social democratic parties still color within the neoliberal lines. There is a solid absence of a left wing narrative to break down the existing non-working systems.
piotrek211 on
left should just focus on the immigration and it would be much less.
decoy777 on
Push so far left and people get tired of it all so you’ll get an equal response in the opposite direction.
musaraj on
37% hard right in Poland?
I don’t think hard-right is on the rise, it’s the hard-right labels.
Edit. Ok it’s still on the rise, but the numbers are off
SBoyo on
One step right of center does not make a party hard right
FearMyPony on
>Another often-heard argument is that the hard right represents a backlash against the migrant crisis that came to a head in 2015. Irregular immigration to some European countries has remained very high. Again, this theory is imperfect. In Germany, like many other countries, the hard right’s support comes predominantly from areas with little immigration.
Bullshit. I live in east Germany (Where ALL the majority AfD votes came from) and foreigners are everywhere with multiple exclusive communities in every town that has more than a population of 100.
I’m not stating my opinion on the matter, just that this is a false claim.
It’s also biased to use descriptive terminology for other parties but then there’s HARD RIGHT yet no hard left, which is what Die Linke is.
I hate AfD as much as the next guy but their opponents give them power and credibility by using cheap propaganda which further alienates anyone on the fence and not dogmatically hateful.
two-sandals on
Be smarter about immigration and this won’t happen…
hellosongi on
Son: mom i hurt my leg
Mother: which one? The LEFT or the HARD/FAR RIGHT one
qchisq on
The data isn’t beautiful, but that scatter plot is mindnumbing. The smaller the foreign born, the larger the far right. If it was constant or increasing, I could understand it. But apparently, the fewer people with a different skin color in your area, the more scared you are of them
pjoshyb on
New “(insert random word) right” just dropped…
rattleandhum on
You can see the massive shift after the Syrian refugee crisis in 2015. Already trending up before that, but BAM! it shoots up a notch after the civil war.
Durzel on
I feel like if the mainstream parties got their shit together with their economies, house prices in particular, and pledged to tackle uncontrolled immigration in a more overt way they would bleed support for these fringe parties.
I don’t believe that the young align with fascism naturally, but I can easily believe that they feel helpless with the “normal” parties doing nothing to make their lives better, in successive terms of government. Plenty will vote that way because they will see it as a thumb in the eye for the normal parties that have taken their vote for granted, or they’ll vote that way because right wing parties run on a platform of overhaul, “draining the swamp” and all that shit.
If you’ve grown up seeing your upward mobility disappear, having no prospects of owning your own house, on your own on a median income, even your life expectancy go backwards – why wouldn’t you vote for radical change (even if it would end up being an illusion). People are desperate and the parties in power have no answers.
M4rl0w on
I don’t get it, I really don’t. Hard right politics is basically just demanding a more aggressive version of what we’re doing alright where all power is handed over to major corps. We’ve done this and it hasn’t worked, most people agree wealth inequality is the biggest problem with society and disproportional power at the top, right? So what is the appeal of doubling down on these things, why would anyone expect that to lead to change?
phobox91 on
difficult times push people to choose the simplest and most immediate solution, the easiest “enemy” to target without thinking about the future. that and massive funding from foreign parties that aim to destabilize Europe
muffledvoice on
Once again, anti immigrant sentiment and nativism pave the way for fascism to sneak in.
guisar on
the economist has gone to absolute shite the last decade.
Ok-disaster2022 on
Yep, and this will lead to ww3.
derliebesmuskel on
Hopefully it’s not too late to turn things around.
NotTooShahby on
Some thoughts I have that I want to let out. I don’t hold them strongly and am open to developing them more. As someone who’s been pretty left leaning in the past, I find that I’m starting to understand the frustrations on how some European governments have handled immigration.
There’s a couple of problems:
1. Parties consolidate ideas, and coalitions unwilling to work across the isles despite their commonalities are not healthy. Barely anyone wants to take away healthcare privileges and basic worker’s rights, but people across the spectrum have worries about immigration.
2. It’s very likely that trust in society is what allows social democracies to thrive, and a homogenous culture of X country helps a lot. This doesn’t mean everyone should be white, but it does require some level of national pride that diverse countries can’t provide. There’s shouldn’t be “Arabs” there should be “Swedish,” which brings me to my most important point.
3. Is there anyone admitting that the governments fumbled on segregating refugees? Second generation Muslim immigrants are statistically more radical than first generation Muslim immigrants.
We then end up in a mess where, yes, governments have fumbled, but is it healthy to explain to everyone the history and complications around immigrants? Or is it better to admit past mistakes and fix current problems that exist, namely, there is a non-insignificant percentage of the population that either isn’t integrated or refuses to integrate.
Singapore got around this through some authoritarian means. Singapore enforced housing quotas in all new developments so a percentage of each ethnic group must be filled.
I don’t think limiting immigration is “anti-leftist,” I think the left has created a bubble where we let perfect become the enemy of good. Reducing immigration is not ideal, but if so many people are single issue on it, why not work with them?
Glupscher on
There’s usually only one strong far-right party but several left-wing parties, so it’s natural that the left splits their voter base more.
JimBeam823 on
This is also true in the United States, although our party systems don’t look the same.
The rise of the hard right is global, and neither conservatives nor social democrats have found a way to slow it down, much less stop it. What they are doing isn’t working.
Bagel__Enjoyer on
I love easy data-Infograph like this.
Trantorianus on
Sponsored by Putler via Swiss banks ?!
Eraserguy on
There was another terrorist attack just today in Germany. I wonder if those 2 are related
BulkyHour8085 on
This will continue until left wing parties stop caring more about foreigners than their own people
trisul-108 on
The graph shows that hard-right parties now have equal popularity as conservative parties and also as much as social democrat parties. All three are around 25%. How does that justify the headline that far-right 25% is “most popular”. The centre parties, i.e. conservative and social democrat hold 50% together, much more than the har-right. And it is much easier for them to form coalitions than it is for the hard right.
This is why I hate headline. We often see a solid article with a bullshit headline written by click-bait seeking editors. Even in a publication as serious as The Economist.
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It’s the Putinification of the world by pro-Putin Putinites putting Putin in power
One in five Germans voted for AfD.
Four in five did not.
Post non-paywalled article or explain how each party was classified.
Why get so anxious now if it’s happened before? Just look earlier on the graph to the 1930s and 40s- Oh. Ooooooh. Shit.
The answer definitly is increased immigration with no measures to compensate for a more competitive labour market and rising house prices while refusing to listen to 25% of the population at all and villifying them.
As wealth inequality grows, quality of life drops.
People flock towards parties offering easy fixes by hurting people they hate, funded by the rich fuckers who are taking all of their wealth because it keeps the focus off of them.
Tax the damn rich before we end up repeating the history of the 1900’s
The russian disinformation campaign is real and ongoing.
Turns out all the Europeans bashing Americans for Trump have their own fascist battles to fight.
All the left has to do is slow down the rate of immigration and they win every foreseeable election. I guess they’d rather do nothing and cry when voters turn elsewhere, which is an odd choice but whatever
Hard right, or anti-establishment?
Because all the Russian interference and social media bubbles aside, the political establishment have failed to find a solid answer for over a decade to growing discontent in society. Because the answers of hard right parties and the insistence of putting blame on migrants are wrong, they are the only parties providing answers that are not 40 pages long and mired in excuses and diversion of blame.
Social and economic divides have been at an all time high and more and more people are struggling and the answers they’ve got to choose between is “This is what it is and what it is is very complicated” and “Immigrants are stealing your jobs and destroying our culture”. When each year gets worse and worse that latter gets more and more attractive. At least it’s an answer and promise of change.
What makes me sad is that most social democratic parties still color within the neoliberal lines. There is a solid absence of a left wing narrative to break down the existing non-working systems.
left should just focus on the immigration and it would be much less.
Push so far left and people get tired of it all so you’ll get an equal response in the opposite direction.
37% hard right in Poland?
I don’t think hard-right is on the rise, it’s the hard-right labels.
Edit. Ok it’s still on the rise, but the numbers are off
One step right of center does not make a party hard right
>Another often-heard argument is that the hard right represents a backlash against the migrant crisis that came to a head in 2015. Irregular immigration to some European countries has remained very high. Again, this theory is imperfect. In Germany, like many other countries, the hard right’s support comes predominantly from areas with little immigration.
Bullshit. I live in east Germany (Where ALL the majority AfD votes came from) and foreigners are everywhere with multiple exclusive communities in every town that has more than a population of 100.
I’m not stating my opinion on the matter, just that this is a false claim.
It’s also biased to use descriptive terminology for other parties but then there’s HARD RIGHT yet no hard left, which is what Die Linke is.
I hate AfD as much as the next guy but their opponents give them power and credibility by using cheap propaganda which further alienates anyone on the fence and not dogmatically hateful.
Be smarter about immigration and this won’t happen…
Son: mom i hurt my leg
Mother: which one? The LEFT or the HARD/FAR RIGHT one
The data isn’t beautiful, but that scatter plot is mindnumbing. The smaller the foreign born, the larger the far right. If it was constant or increasing, I could understand it. But apparently, the fewer people with a different skin color in your area, the more scared you are of them
New “(insert random word) right” just dropped…
You can see the massive shift after the Syrian refugee crisis in 2015. Already trending up before that, but BAM! it shoots up a notch after the civil war.
I feel like if the mainstream parties got their shit together with their economies, house prices in particular, and pledged to tackle uncontrolled immigration in a more overt way they would bleed support for these fringe parties.
I don’t believe that the young align with fascism naturally, but I can easily believe that they feel helpless with the “normal” parties doing nothing to make their lives better, in successive terms of government. Plenty will vote that way because they will see it as a thumb in the eye for the normal parties that have taken their vote for granted, or they’ll vote that way because right wing parties run on a platform of overhaul, “draining the swamp” and all that shit.
If you’ve grown up seeing your upward mobility disappear, having no prospects of owning your own house, on your own on a median income, even your life expectancy go backwards – why wouldn’t you vote for radical change (even if it would end up being an illusion). People are desperate and the parties in power have no answers.
I don’t get it, I really don’t. Hard right politics is basically just demanding a more aggressive version of what we’re doing alright where all power is handed over to major corps. We’ve done this and it hasn’t worked, most people agree wealth inequality is the biggest problem with society and disproportional power at the top, right? So what is the appeal of doubling down on these things, why would anyone expect that to lead to change?
difficult times push people to choose the simplest and most immediate solution, the easiest “enemy” to target without thinking about the future. that and massive funding from foreign parties that aim to destabilize Europe
Once again, anti immigrant sentiment and nativism pave the way for fascism to sneak in.
the economist has gone to absolute shite the last decade.
Yep, and this will lead to ww3.
Hopefully it’s not too late to turn things around.
Some thoughts I have that I want to let out. I don’t hold them strongly and am open to developing them more. As someone who’s been pretty left leaning in the past, I find that I’m starting to understand the frustrations on how some European governments have handled immigration.
There’s a couple of problems:
1. Parties consolidate ideas, and coalitions unwilling to work across the isles despite their commonalities are not healthy. Barely anyone wants to take away healthcare privileges and basic worker’s rights, but people across the spectrum have worries about immigration.
2. It’s very likely that trust in society is what allows social democracies to thrive, and a homogenous culture of X country helps a lot. This doesn’t mean everyone should be white, but it does require some level of national pride that diverse countries can’t provide. There’s shouldn’t be “Arabs” there should be “Swedish,” which brings me to my most important point.
3. Is there anyone admitting that the governments fumbled on segregating refugees? Second generation Muslim immigrants are statistically more radical than first generation Muslim immigrants.
We then end up in a mess where, yes, governments have fumbled, but is it healthy to explain to everyone the history and complications around immigrants? Or is it better to admit past mistakes and fix current problems that exist, namely, there is a non-insignificant percentage of the population that either isn’t integrated or refuses to integrate.
Singapore got around this through some authoritarian means. Singapore enforced housing quotas in all new developments so a percentage of each ethnic group must be filled.
I don’t think limiting immigration is “anti-leftist,” I think the left has created a bubble where we let perfect become the enemy of good. Reducing immigration is not ideal, but if so many people are single issue on it, why not work with them?
There’s usually only one strong far-right party but several left-wing parties, so it’s natural that the left splits their voter base more.
This is also true in the United States, although our party systems don’t look the same.
The rise of the hard right is global, and neither conservatives nor social democrats have found a way to slow it down, much less stop it. What they are doing isn’t working.
I love easy data-Infograph like this.
Sponsored by Putler via Swiss banks ?!
There was another terrorist attack just today in Germany. I wonder if those 2 are related
This will continue until left wing parties stop caring more about foreigners than their own people
The graph shows that hard-right parties now have equal popularity as conservative parties and also as much as social democrat parties. All three are around 25%. How does that justify the headline that far-right 25% is “most popular”. The centre parties, i.e. conservative and social democrat hold 50% together, much more than the har-right. And it is much easier for them to form coalitions than it is for the hard right.
This is why I hate headline. We often see a solid article with a bullshit headline written by click-bait seeking editors. Even in a publication as serious as The Economist.
Fucking why? They offer nothing