I mean generally I would prefer it if the Chancellor worded it along the lines of “We need to do more to educate Bitains young people”
Than making it sound like she is in some sort of bleach commercial, and the kids are some sort of noxious cartoon germs that are going to have some nice caustic, yet minty fresh chemical poured over them.
Professional-Bear857 on
God forbid the slaves aren’t working the second they leave school.
Normal-Ear-5757 on
Her genius plan? Shout at them and threaten them with destitution.
StephenHazza0651 on
Said it in lots of threads re this but I do think as unwanted as it is, there will need to be a serious conversation regarding benefits in this country soon.
Especially with AI coming, and jobs becoming more and more scarce, with many unable to upskill, it’s going to get to a point where millions need benefits / support and the government simply can’t afford it yet can’t also abandon them.
HotelPuzzleheaded654 on
Give them something to aspire to then? The middle class is dead and with it a lot of aspiration.
Not just the government either, employers have got far too used to being able to rip off the workforce because of insane demand vs scarce supply of jobs.
ParkingMachine3534 on
It’s hard to lie on your CV to get a cushy job when you’re straight out of school.
Antique-Conflique on
They really should put a huge public awareness campaign in to government backed apprenticeships, there’s not even an age limit on them now in England
The country desperately needs skilled tradespeople but I bet the vast majority of NEETS don’t even know it’s available to them
TooHotOutsideAndIn on
Choose a random 18 year old NEET and give them her job. That’s one off the statistics, they’ll do the job better than she does, and she won’t even technically be unemployed because there’s one of those Legal Corruption lobbying jobs waiting for her. Everybody wins.
Embarrassed_Grass_16 on
I think the ideal solution would be making non-disabled people on benefits have to do a certain number of volunteering hours each week. It might encourage people to seek better work if the alternative is litter picking and tree planting rather than videogames and a boring meeting once a week.
Minimum-Geologist-58 on
I think we’re slowly but surely heading from the weird old British Post Thatcherite consensus where the state takes a load of tax particularly from high earners and then dolls it back out again mostly to people in work to keep up employment (and that is a uniquely odd way to run a welfare state) more to a French model of where any job is a “real job” and pays quite well and productivity is good but wages also gets taxed quite a lot and you have relatively high structural employment where people are kind of paid a stipend to not cause any trouble but are expected to just be forgotten about.
Pros and cons. If I was a NEET I would be taking any job going to be honest because change is afoot and it might not be good to be on the wrong end of.
Desire-17 on
I finished Uni recently and I have been desperately looking for a job. Not even grad jobs, I’ll do mostly anything but it’s so dead
I do enjoy £25k a year entry level jobs asking for 2 years experience
I would not do it because I want to be independent, not rely on the state and actually do something with my life. But when it’s probably easier for me to get on benefits than actually secure an entry level role, something is wrong
LyingFacts on
Driving lessons may help? Money for Ukraine but none for our youth?
Why not offer government jobs?
IgneousJam on
Hello. NINE THOUSAND POUNDS PER YEAR UNIVERSITY FEES, over here.
Clockwork-Armadillo on
I don’t blame them tbh.
At 38 years old I consider my being hardworking as a personality flaw, hardwork just gets you more work, it doesn’t get you more pay or respect, those things are purely a “it’s not what you know, but who you know” ordeal in Britain.
If you can’t rely on neither family nor personal social connections to get ahead then you’re probally better off being a slacker tbh
bananablegh on
Only stain on this country is the idiot 50 somethings who have ran us into a decade of hardship and the other 50 somethings who voted for them over and over again.
Altruistic-Hall-4246 on
I’m sure a bunch of millionaire kids are just coasting off their dads wealth
CastleofWamdue on
Create high quality jobs with good pay and conditions alongside high quality, affordable housing and watch how quickly things change.
South_Buy_3175 on
Ah yes I’m sure calling them a stain on the country will raise their spirits.
Would help if there was something to work towards. Right now people are fighting by the dozens and hundreds for shit paying jobs that will happily work them to the bone and throw them out on their arse.
all-park on
Misleading working. Here’s the full quote:
Reeves, meanwhile, highlighted plans to expand apprenticeship access for those who did not achieve English or maths GCSE requirements. She concluded that turning these statistics around must be a priority, insisting: “It is a stain on our country that we are allowing a million people to sit at home doing often nothing.”
GopnikOli on
I have a degree, a fractured spine and years of employment under my belt, applied for a job at the job centre at the behest of themselves just to get rejected. I didn’t expect to get the job, but it does leave a sour taste when you go to the Job Centre and their new hires barely understand what you’re saying.
I’m sick of being made out to be the issue, I worked through intense pain and dealing with bullshit workplace politics as a disabled person, it just made me want to die. I apply for the jobs they tell me to, I get denied. Getting a job in rural areas is hard enough, even worse when your bodies fucked.
Alternative-Duster on
I never expected to see parliament talking about neets but here we go
trmetroidmaniac on
Put taxes on workers up again, that’ll get them grafting.
Glittering-Rope-4759 on
Maybe they should just lie on their cv’s like our good chancellor.
Haggis_46 on
High immigration, high energy costs and high benefits are the main problem of people not working.
Houses are far too expensive due to migrants. No one can afford a house now.. energy costs are killing jobs as businesses can’t make a profit.
Then, finally, if young people did not get benefits, then they would be forced to work or go hungry.
You can not tax a country into prosperity.
Labour are finding this out the hard way.
Lmao45454 on
Can’t the government give tax subsidies to companies hiring 18-24 year olds????
LogTheDogFucksFrogs on
Well, at least they didn’t plagiarise their book from Wikipedia. Or lie on their CV.
Working class has been demonised since Thatcher, and the government are surprised there’s no tradies/manual labourers etc etc? It’s a joke, just not a funny one.
Staar-69 on
The Tories basically created the NEET category in society with their neoliberal policies and austerity, now Labour are continuing down the same path while complaining about something they’re helping to perpetuate.
Politicians on this country have completely run out of ideas, we need radical change before Reform comes in and really makes a mess of things.
UselessDood on
Then work to fix it.
Especially with the job market as it is, I imagine a ton of these NEETS don’t want to be NEETS – they just are.
malin7 on
Christ, this thread is depressing, does every here live in permanent state of misery
aonro on
Well I finished my education and I can’t get a job 👍I can’t wait for year 2 of unemployment
suihpares on
>Chancellor voiced alarm that nearly one million 18-24-year-olds are currently “sitting at home doing nothing” instead of gaining valuable skills or workplace experience.
(1) How does she know what one million adults do in the privacy of their own homes?
(2) What valuable skills? As employers replace most jobs with automation and AI, what are the specific skills – which do not involve having wealthy parents to fund your university or the ability to have a career in something decent as those roles are kept for those with privileges – what specific skills?
(3) What workplace experience? Being barely trained, dealing with toxic people, underpaid, no job security, cannot afford a house or to start a family … Is that the experience they are missing out on?
(4) She has signed off billions to warzones, billions to landlords, millions to her colleagues yet the NHS remains crippled – billions lost to private temp agencies … Education underfunded so many more children turn 18 with zero worthwhile achievements … Can’t start a business as no funding or grants … Can’t get a loan as banks refuse … What country are we paying for here? While middle eastern, Chinese and russian millionaires buy up London , no one can afford to even rent there.
What has she done to resolve this except falsely accuse the young people… The very young people we need for a future!
Failed by every government I’ve seen in my life.
Am 37, work ft temp jobs and am carer for parent who is disabled from chronic illness.
I do not blame the one million young people at all.
I was squeezed like a lemon and thrown away.
Good for them to maintain their health, their energy and preserve their sanity rather than be enslaved.
Celestial__Peach on
One of my brothers got laid off & cant find a job despite all his licensing & degrees.
My youngest brother just out of college cant even get a look-in.
Its all dandy condemning NEET, but where exactly are they supposed to get these jobs? I feel for everyone. We’re all a target
Whammy-Bars on
We can’t all bullshit on our LinkedIn and CV to get plum jobs Rachel.
I actually had some hope for this lot. Are you only allowed to be a politician if you’re a tone deaf elitist arsehole?
lil_peasant_69 on
AI is gonna take more and more jobs so it’s sailing against the tide
If you get rid of benefits entirely, it will motivate people to work but that’s just cruel. If there’s no incentive, people won’t bother and you just have to accept that
Important_March1933 on
Stop fucking taxing the fuck out of people who work hard to better themselves, but really struggling. Youngsters are thinking what’s the point, if I was their age I’d be the same.
Biggeordiegeek on
Why would anyone bother, there is no decent jobs going, and those jobs that are around pay a pittance with no chance of career progression
Snapsh0ts on
seeing all the comments on here, i thought i would share what im currently going through work wise…
skip to *** for present day situ
I’m 33 years old, have always had a job since about the age of 12 (if you count an every morning paper round) but the past year and a bit has been the worst year of my working life.
For the past 13 or so years, I have worked within the IT industry, started off in the technical side of it and for the last 5/6 years has been on client relationship/service/account management. 2023 I was made redundant from one of the big four financial auditing firms and landed another job that was very much miss-sold. (if the british public knew the state of that software solution for one of, if not the most important department’s/office in britain, they wouldn’t be happy, I cant say anymore)
After 7 months, i was let go on a technicallity and even though i had the HARD evidence to disprove the reasoning, they didnt care.
I was then out of work for about 3 months and was desperate to land another so I took a sales focussed position in a local IT firm, small, liked the MD, thought I would give it a shot. The last quarter I was there was slow, he had aggressively expanded when he hired me and let me and one other person go due to costs.
*** That was October. I have been out of work since. I have applied for in excess of 150 jobs, each job i apply for has over 100 applicants already within 4 hours, I have managed to land quite a few interviews, made it to the 3rd stage 4 times and each time, I get barely any usable feedback to help improve for the next interview. “Such and such thought you were great and there was nothing wrong, we just thought the other candidate was a better fit culturally”
The hoops you have to go through these days during the multi stage process is starting to get silly as well. For the roles im applying for, you would expect some hoops but im having to produce PowerPoints, take psychometric and psychoanalysis tests, english and math reasoning ability tests, present to audiences, the demands are starting to get silly.
It has gotten to the point that I am now casting the net far wider so if the skills I have accquired over the last 5 years are translatable to any role, in any industry, thats what im now doing.
Thank you to all of you that shared your stories, its a daily battle to not feel like a failure and letting those close to me down. Reading your comments has helped alleviate this more than i thought it would
LondonDude123 on
THEN! START! TRAINING! PEOPLE!
For fucking hell sake, how many jobs out there are crying out for people but dont actually want to invest in training people to take said job…
And before anyone says Uni, going into lifelong debt to *maybe not even* get the job is not it, and Unis dont even teach the job itself, AND how many of these “requires a degree” jobs actually require a degree? Exactly!
*Oh no we spent fucking 3 decades not investing in the future of our population and now everything is fucked*. Who couldve POSSIBLY seen that coming!
lordofeurope99 on
How about improve quality of life then?
And stop letting 1 million plus people in every year who destroy our country
Xifortis on
Erode their hope at every turn for decades then berate them when they give up.
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I mean generally I would prefer it if the Chancellor worded it along the lines of “We need to do more to educate Bitains young people”
Than making it sound like she is in some sort of bleach commercial, and the kids are some sort of noxious cartoon germs that are going to have some nice caustic, yet minty fresh chemical poured over them.
God forbid the slaves aren’t working the second they leave school.
Her genius plan? Shout at them and threaten them with destitution.
Said it in lots of threads re this but I do think as unwanted as it is, there will need to be a serious conversation regarding benefits in this country soon.
Especially with AI coming, and jobs becoming more and more scarce, with many unable to upskill, it’s going to get to a point where millions need benefits / support and the government simply can’t afford it yet can’t also abandon them.
Give them something to aspire to then? The middle class is dead and with it a lot of aspiration.
Not just the government either, employers have got far too used to being able to rip off the workforce because of insane demand vs scarce supply of jobs.
It’s hard to lie on your CV to get a cushy job when you’re straight out of school.
They really should put a huge public awareness campaign in to government backed apprenticeships, there’s not even an age limit on them now in England
The country desperately needs skilled tradespeople but I bet the vast majority of NEETS don’t even know it’s available to them
Choose a random 18 year old NEET and give them her job. That’s one off the statistics, they’ll do the job better than she does, and she won’t even technically be unemployed because there’s one of those Legal Corruption lobbying jobs waiting for her. Everybody wins.
I think the ideal solution would be making non-disabled people on benefits have to do a certain number of volunteering hours each week. It might encourage people to seek better work if the alternative is litter picking and tree planting rather than videogames and a boring meeting once a week.
I think we’re slowly but surely heading from the weird old British Post Thatcherite consensus where the state takes a load of tax particularly from high earners and then dolls it back out again mostly to people in work to keep up employment (and that is a uniquely odd way to run a welfare state) more to a French model of where any job is a “real job” and pays quite well and productivity is good but wages also gets taxed quite a lot and you have relatively high structural employment where people are kind of paid a stipend to not cause any trouble but are expected to just be forgotten about.
Pros and cons. If I was a NEET I would be taking any job going to be honest because change is afoot and it might not be good to be on the wrong end of.
I finished Uni recently and I have been desperately looking for a job. Not even grad jobs, I’ll do mostly anything but it’s so dead
I do enjoy £25k a year entry level jobs asking for 2 years experience
I would not do it because I want to be independent, not rely on the state and actually do something with my life. But when it’s probably easier for me to get on benefits than actually secure an entry level role, something is wrong
Driving lessons may help? Money for Ukraine but none for our youth?
Why not offer government jobs?
Hello. NINE THOUSAND POUNDS PER YEAR UNIVERSITY FEES, over here.
I don’t blame them tbh.
At 38 years old I consider my being hardworking as a personality flaw, hardwork just gets you more work, it doesn’t get you more pay or respect, those things are purely a “it’s not what you know, but who you know” ordeal in Britain.
If you can’t rely on neither family nor personal social connections to get ahead then you’re probally better off being a slacker tbh
Only stain on this country is the idiot 50 somethings who have ran us into a decade of hardship and the other 50 somethings who voted for them over and over again.
I’m sure a bunch of millionaire kids are just coasting off their dads wealth
Create high quality jobs with good pay and conditions alongside high quality, affordable housing and watch how quickly things change.
Ah yes I’m sure calling them a stain on the country will raise their spirits.
Would help if there was something to work towards. Right now people are fighting by the dozens and hundreds for shit paying jobs that will happily work them to the bone and throw them out on their arse.
Misleading working. Here’s the full quote:
Reeves, meanwhile, highlighted plans to expand apprenticeship access for those who did not achieve English or maths GCSE requirements. She concluded that turning these statistics around must be a priority, insisting: “It is a stain on our country that we are allowing a million people to sit at home doing often nothing.”
I have a degree, a fractured spine and years of employment under my belt, applied for a job at the job centre at the behest of themselves just to get rejected. I didn’t expect to get the job, but it does leave a sour taste when you go to the Job Centre and their new hires barely understand what you’re saying.
I’m sick of being made out to be the issue, I worked through intense pain and dealing with bullshit workplace politics as a disabled person, it just made me want to die. I apply for the jobs they tell me to, I get denied. Getting a job in rural areas is hard enough, even worse when your bodies fucked.
I never expected to see parliament talking about neets but here we go
Put taxes on workers up again, that’ll get them grafting.
Maybe they should just lie on their cv’s like our good chancellor.
High immigration, high energy costs and high benefits are the main problem of people not working.
Houses are far too expensive due to migrants. No one can afford a house now.. energy costs are killing jobs as businesses can’t make a profit.
Then, finally, if young people did not get benefits, then they would be forced to work or go hungry.
You can not tax a country into prosperity.
Labour are finding this out the hard way.
Can’t the government give tax subsidies to companies hiring 18-24 year olds????
Well, at least they didn’t plagiarise their book from Wikipedia. Or lie on their CV.
Send her the wage chart on this page every day until she gets it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64970708.amp
Working class has been demonised since Thatcher, and the government are surprised there’s no tradies/manual labourers etc etc? It’s a joke, just not a funny one.
The Tories basically created the NEET category in society with their neoliberal policies and austerity, now Labour are continuing down the same path while complaining about something they’re helping to perpetuate.
Politicians on this country have completely run out of ideas, we need radical change before Reform comes in and really makes a mess of things.
Then work to fix it.
Especially with the job market as it is, I imagine a ton of these NEETS don’t want to be NEETS – they just are.
Christ, this thread is depressing, does every here live in permanent state of misery
Well I finished my education and I can’t get a job 👍I can’t wait for year 2 of unemployment
>Chancellor voiced alarm that nearly one million 18-24-year-olds are currently “sitting at home doing nothing” instead of gaining valuable skills or workplace experience.
(1) How does she know what one million adults do in the privacy of their own homes?
(2) What valuable skills? As employers replace most jobs with automation and AI, what are the specific skills – which do not involve having wealthy parents to fund your university or the ability to have a career in something decent as those roles are kept for those with privileges – what specific skills?
(3) What workplace experience? Being barely trained, dealing with toxic people, underpaid, no job security, cannot afford a house or to start a family … Is that the experience they are missing out on?
(4) She has signed off billions to warzones, billions to landlords, millions to her colleagues yet the NHS remains crippled – billions lost to private temp agencies … Education underfunded so many more children turn 18 with zero worthwhile achievements … Can’t start a business as no funding or grants … Can’t get a loan as banks refuse … What country are we paying for here? While middle eastern, Chinese and russian millionaires buy up London , no one can afford to even rent there.
What has she done to resolve this except falsely accuse the young people… The very young people we need for a future!
Failed by every government I’ve seen in my life.
Am 37, work ft temp jobs and am carer for parent who is disabled from chronic illness.
I do not blame the one million young people at all.
I was squeezed like a lemon and thrown away.
Good for them to maintain their health, their energy and preserve their sanity rather than be enslaved.
One of my brothers got laid off & cant find a job despite all his licensing & degrees.
My youngest brother just out of college cant even get a look-in.
Its all dandy condemning NEET, but where exactly are they supposed to get these jobs? I feel for everyone. We’re all a target
We can’t all bullshit on our LinkedIn and CV to get plum jobs Rachel.
I actually had some hope for this lot. Are you only allowed to be a politician if you’re a tone deaf elitist arsehole?
AI is gonna take more and more jobs so it’s sailing against the tide
If you get rid of benefits entirely, it will motivate people to work but that’s just cruel. If there’s no incentive, people won’t bother and you just have to accept that
Stop fucking taxing the fuck out of people who work hard to better themselves, but really struggling. Youngsters are thinking what’s the point, if I was their age I’d be the same.
Why would anyone bother, there is no decent jobs going, and those jobs that are around pay a pittance with no chance of career progression
seeing all the comments on here, i thought i would share what im currently going through work wise…
skip to *** for present day situ
I’m 33 years old, have always had a job since about the age of 12 (if you count an every morning paper round) but the past year and a bit has been the worst year of my working life.
For the past 13 or so years, I have worked within the IT industry, started off in the technical side of it and for the last 5/6 years has been on client relationship/service/account management. 2023 I was made redundant from one of the big four financial auditing firms and landed another job that was very much miss-sold. (if the british public knew the state of that software solution for one of, if not the most important department’s/office in britain, they wouldn’t be happy, I cant say anymore)
After 7 months, i was let go on a technicallity and even though i had the HARD evidence to disprove the reasoning, they didnt care.
I was then out of work for about 3 months and was desperate to land another so I took a sales focussed position in a local IT firm, small, liked the MD, thought I would give it a shot. The last quarter I was there was slow, he had aggressively expanded when he hired me and let me and one other person go due to costs.
*** That was October. I have been out of work since. I have applied for in excess of 150 jobs, each job i apply for has over 100 applicants already within 4 hours, I have managed to land quite a few interviews, made it to the 3rd stage 4 times and each time, I get barely any usable feedback to help improve for the next interview. “Such and such thought you were great and there was nothing wrong, we just thought the other candidate was a better fit culturally”
The hoops you have to go through these days during the multi stage process is starting to get silly as well. For the roles im applying for, you would expect some hoops but im having to produce PowerPoints, take psychometric and psychoanalysis tests, english and math reasoning ability tests, present to audiences, the demands are starting to get silly.
It has gotten to the point that I am now casting the net far wider so if the skills I have accquired over the last 5 years are translatable to any role, in any industry, thats what im now doing.
Thank you to all of you that shared your stories, its a daily battle to not feel like a failure and letting those close to me down. Reading your comments has helped alleviate this more than i thought it would
THEN! START! TRAINING! PEOPLE!
For fucking hell sake, how many jobs out there are crying out for people but dont actually want to invest in training people to take said job…
And before anyone says Uni, going into lifelong debt to *maybe not even* get the job is not it, and Unis dont even teach the job itself, AND how many of these “requires a degree” jobs actually require a degree? Exactly!
*Oh no we spent fucking 3 decades not investing in the future of our population and now everything is fucked*. Who couldve POSSIBLY seen that coming!
How about improve quality of life then?
And stop letting 1 million plus people in every year who destroy our country
Erode their hope at every turn for decades then berate them when they give up.