Labour urges young people on benefits to join the British Army
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/defence/article/labour-benefits-british-army-news-2qwnwv7bz
Posted by LoquaciousLord1066
Labour urges young people on benefits to join the British Army
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/defence/article/labour-benefits-british-army-news-2qwnwv7bz
Posted by LoquaciousLord1066
27 Comments
I wouldn’t worry. If this goes full on war, there will be conscription too.
All over a Russian force that is apparently weak and pathetic, yet still doesn’t seem to have backed off at all.
Politics aside if your a young person and see litterally no hope of ever affording a house .. ANY of the services is a cheat around that as you pay about £48 /month on accom which allows you to save huge amounts of your salary that would go on rent on civvy street .
Do it
I mean, kinda been that way since forever right? Got nothing going on or a broken heart, sign up.
lol good luck with that. Nationalisms a curse word to labour. I doubt many people are willing to give their life for king and country without a being nationalistic.
Not going to find a lot of recruits if you just spent months calling them useless parasites.
We privatised military recruitment, and as a result cannot recruit enough people. That’s odd because outsourcing government services to Capita and Serco is normally a raging success.
And now we have almost a million NEETS because the rest of the economy has been screwed over by successive governments. You can see how the this cunning plan developed.
Why would I risk my life for a country that couldnt give less of a shit about me
The army has always preyed on men in poverty. “Hey want a chance of being able to afford to live? Come and sign your life away with us!”
And yes I know they can leave, but young men shouldn’t be forced to put their lives at risk for the sake of getting by. I understand we need an army, but people should be willingly signing up to it because they want to fight for their country not so they can afford housing. If no one wants to give their life for the country, maybe the issue is with the country.
“We’re going to make you so poor that you HAVE to join the army to survive”
You better join the army now or we’re going to sanction and cut your money lol
Mate of mine from school who I thought was an absolute no-hoper joined the navy right out of high school and by the time I was finishing uni he had been running the engine room of a Royal Navy ship for years.
Met him not long after I finished uni and the difference between us in life experience and just general self confidence was unbelievable. It was like he was five years older than me.
I think he left the Navy and got a job in the oil industry not long after. Made a fortune. Bastard.
And to think most of the other guys like him at my high school went on to become dug addict wastrels, it’s hard to deny that what he did was the right thing.
You’ve had years of making it racist for being patriotic, and years of saying all men are bad/problem but now you think they’ll fight for the country slandering them?
Disabled people who can’t afford pay the bills whilst on the recieving end of fascist rhetoric bring asked to defend a broken country now 😂 Hb those in power who leech freebies , enrich themselves and their mates with corrupt contracts without facing any justice, step up? No thanks to this .
No point putting yourself in harms way when the enemy wouldn’t be much worse.
If people can’t tell we’re heading for war I don’t k ow what to tell you
This was inevitable. Change the definition of disability, brag about getting young people into work, spunk billions more into Ukraine, and then push young people into the army for the near inevitable ww3.
Nothing like a few years of watching Russians get their bollocks shredded by drone drops to make a young man yearn for the military life. Oh and if you make it back wounded…better not need help getting dressed you workshy scrounger.
The majority of the working class in rural areas that would previously happily stand up for their nation no longer feel it is their nation. It doesn’t take long to find out why.
Step 1 : On benefits
Step 2 : Joins army
Step 3 : Gets leg blown off
Step 4 : Discharged from army
Step 5 : Apply for pip
Step 6 : DWP denies you lol
Step 7 : Homeless…….no longer on benefits
Kier taps noggin,he’s playing the long game
This is such a stupid statement and it clearly comes from a place of privilege and naivety and someone who is deeply out of touch.
Asking people on welfare to join the military makes it sound like the issue is a disciplinary issue and not a poverty issue and completely ignores the fact that military service is a choice and appeals to certain people,
It’s also ignoring it’s a very dangerous and demanding job which is not suited to everyone, it’s also dodging around the real issues of why people are on benefits, instead of focusing on the real issues of education and the wealth inequality gaps which have got out of control
This sounds like a fantasy pipe dream, dreamt up by someone who is out of touch and a million miles away from understanding the real people behind this.
Just imagine if your at a low point, can barely afford rent, have a child to look after, can’t find a job, ashamed your on benefits and then you hear “you should join the military” …
The military does work for many as a very effective method for achieving upward mobility. It is possible for a person from a very working class background without the connections and perks associated with privilege in this country to achieve a very impressive professional and social status if:
1. You can be arsed to put up with the nonsense triv and often menial busywork directed at the lower ranks.
2. You understand that you joined the military, the military didn’t join you.
3. Like in every walk of life you say the right thing at the right time, keep your powder dry and make the changes you can when it’s you turn to be in charge.
4. You understand you might be killed doing something you do not really agree with. But you are an instrument of government policy and sometimes you have to keep your opinions to yourself and get on with it.
The pay is good. Accommodation is cheap and the food…varies. For many young people the military is the best chance they have of getting on the housing ladder if you don’t have a professional degree.
However – am I the only person who finds this all a little dystopian? Most roles in the military aren’t combat focussed but even so there will always be a level of danger. Are we saying that young people on benefits in the UK don’t have any better options than to go fight and maybe get (quite brutally) killed?
Make life as hard as possible for people and then “urge” (force by no choice) to go in the military.. do people really not see what these cunts are doing?
There are plenty of military careers other than infantry. Spend time in the REME or Signals and you’ll get fully funded training in some very marketable skills.
Yes, let’s send out the poor, sick, and vulnerable to fight another Labour war nobody wants. Why the fuck would any self respecting Brit fight for a country that that hates them?? You have enshrined systemic racism and sexism into law. It’s both morally bankrupt and disgusting. Why don’t you ask all these fighting aged men floating into our country to go?
Not the nation, just young people on benefits.
We’re unable to provide any life opportunites so what have you got to lose?
Cowardly mentality
Haven’t they been doing cut backs for the Army for years now.
So there it is, we cut your benefits, now you have no choice but to go die for us
It’s important to remember during the last war the UK taxed the rich at 97% ! In America during the 1950s it was 91% !
Since 2010, billionaires have TRIPLED their wealth. This isn’t money that’s made, it’s money that was taken through tax avoidance, lobbying governments in favour of keeping them rich, etc.
Meanwhile this ‘black hole’ it’s being footed by the poorest people in our country through benefit cuts, youth club cuts, education cuts, cuts, cuts….
When are we going to expect the richest among us to play their part? After all the ‘profit’ they make is made on the backbone of the working and middle classes labour.
Meanwhile we have a ‘labour’ government that would rather please the billionaire lobbyists then do the job right by the working people. Who needs support when you can die in a cold muddy field right?
The rich are literally going to bankrupt our society, and it’s not until you tax them that living standards go up.