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    1. MrSquashyknickers on

      Given this is the sun and I’m unwilling to open or read anything from them. Was it actually the pressure of maths or was it something else?

    2. I really sympathise with the family (particularly as someone who has been frequently suicidal themselves) but something really irks me when these articles are published and the parents describe the children as “happy”. I know they might have appeared that way to any observer, but to describe them that way after the fact just seems so illogical and unhelpful that I don’t think it serves the parents or anyone who feels similar to their poor son.

    3. Longjumping_Stand889 on

      It would still be a tragedy if he actually failed it, exam results aren’t worth that.

    4. TheEnglishNorwegian on

      Brutally sad. We as a society put too much pressure and emphasis on grades for young people when in reality grades don’t matter beyond unlocking the ability to attend a certain school you may wish to get into.

      You can often always retake or spend a bit of time to learn something you find hard. It shouldn’t be stigmatized to retake a module or a course after failing.

      Over 40% of students fail certain programming modules we teach, and it’s normal. The students need extra time to rise to the level of challenge and we maintain high standards. Most pass the second time around and it’s not an issue for their long term success.

    5. Wolf_Cola_91 on

      If you kill yourself over a minor setback like that, there is already something seriously wrong. 

      It’s not ‘because’ you fail a test. You will have been seriously unwell for some time. 

    6. MediocreAd3257 on

      After reading the article, I highly doubt that he killed himself because he failed one subject (which he’d just retake in any case) or because he had a presentation. Just sounds like a poor kid who struggled with a lot of things.

    7. Agreeable_Falcon1044 on

      The pressure they put on kids is laughable. I have worked in recruitment and teaching (to see both sides) and have NEVER checked GCSE results. It’s all about upper level of qualification and experience.

      My lad was stressed at primary school for SATS…literally why should he be? Even if he bums out and fails, it’s only the teacher and SLT at that school that need to be worried.

      This is such a waste. Even if he had failed maths…so what. You can take it again. Most colleges allow you to start a course whilst you are passing. It’s not even worth worrying about.

    8. ChurchOfTheNewEpoch on

      Shit system with shit results.

      We really need to move away from a system where someones path in life is determined by their performance in a 2 week period when they are 16.

    9. Schools have a lot to answer for here.

      The push to make brighter kids believe GCSEs then A levels then uni is the be all and end all goes way way back. Had a similar situation when I was at school in a high school near me.

      Yet 20 years later the “thick kids” who left with two Fs and a U are now tradesmen with their own four bed houses and decent cars, while the ones who went to uni to do a degree they had no real interest in are in some shitty graduate job they hate and got stuck in.

    10. I don’t know how it is now but when I was in school they did make it seem like not getting A-C in maths, english and Science was the end of your existence.

      I failed maths and have since gone on to have an incredible and well paid career in IT.

      Poor kid man

    11. CautiousLow4703 on

      Am 30 and never needed my GCSE’s. It’s a joke the way schools and ‘parents’ make kids feel like this when there whole life is ahead of them.

    12. somnamna2516 on

      Allied to the pressure put on kids from a young age over exam results (I don’t remember any examinations whatsoever until 12 and that was purely to work out sets for maths/english). You have also got a world that has gotten so shit that even those with a good degree from a decent uni are facing a scramble to get barely above minimum wage jobs, little chance of getting on the property market, saddled with huge student debts and so on. When the ‘prize’ for doing it all by the book and doing well academically is so shit, you can see why there’s a sense that even one bad GCSE result will be catastrophic.

    13. CluckingBellend on

      It’s beyond tragedy tbh. Children are being failed all over the county. The Sun newspaper isn’t really helping here either; happy kids don’t do this, obviously.

    14. Too much pressure is put on kids with exams. It shouldn’t be seen as a cliff edge situation. It should be seen in a position of a learning environment not there to catch you out.

    15. The pressure on kids these days with exams is insane. To also factor in his autism and ADHD it must have been awful for him.

      God bless 🙏

    16. pikantnasuka on

      One of my sons is doing GCSEs this year. This is a big reminder to me to tell him whatever happens with them, it is OK. They’re just GCSEs.

    17. PinZealousideal1914 on

      Just so sad, the poor lad. All that pressure he put on himself for a bloody Maths paper. His whole life ahead of him.

    18. I failed my maths GCSE and they did make it seem like the end of the world. The pressure the modern educational system places on exams for people who don’t excel at this stuff is unreal.

      Now I’m a lead software engineer and doing pretty well.

      Poor kid. RIP.

    19. PeterGeorge2 on

      I firmly believe we should axe exams, I failed everything because I just can’t do exams, the pressure is far too much, telling a child that their whole future depends on exams is stupid and meaningless, I would have done amazing if they graded me by my school work like they did during lockdown, I enjoyed school and worked hard in lesson but exams, just couldn’t do it, being dyslexic doesn’t help either, my school shut and I was moved to another school and I didn’t have the help there I had at my first one

    20. Teachers In my experience go on like uni is life or death yet I never went to 6th form and now make more than a teachers salary its just a load of unnecessary pressure imo. Never once after leaving did my gcse get looked at once.

    21. myautumnalromance on

      I tried to kill myself when I was 15 after I failed my mock exams. That was 19 years ago in July and nothing has changed about the academic pressure schools pile on that these results will affect the rest of your life.

    22. destroyapple on

      I have never emphasized more with someone.

      As someone who also has both ADHD, autism and is also suicidal all I can say is life is screwed over for people with conditions like these, way more then anyone realises and blaming his parents won’t help.

      I don’t know this guy but if his experiences were anything like mine he was failed by everyone and not just his parents or the NHS or the education system.

    23. So sad , too much pressure on exam results , I have and continue to tell my kids do your best but the result doesn’t matter , if it’s good then great if its bad it’s fine its not the end of the world.

    24. What’s a tragedy is kids being told that GCSEs are the be-all and end-all. And you know what? I tried exactly the same fucking thing, but obviously I failed the attempt so I’m here now. But it made me realise how kids were and still are lied to and put under immense pressure to succeed and excel at every subject with no consideration for their strengths and weaknesses. If you’re not getting straight As, you’re some kind of embarrassment or disappointment and you’ll never amount to anything in life; which isn’t true.

      I got an E in art. Then, because I had to be in higher education after every 6th form turned me down, a college was obligated to take me on and put me on level 2 art. Few years later, I was doing the level 5 degree course and now I have a diploma and degree in art. Useless media studies in retrospect, but more of a statement at how failure doesn’t mean a dead end. Unfortunately, like me before I went to college and finished school, kids aren’t ever taught this. I’ve known people jump off bridges because they had low grades and couldn’t get into their chosen 6th form. The suicide of graduating students isn’t talked about enough, and needs more attention in the media and government, and schools need to be more responsible about the pressure they put kids under at the most volatile and sensitive part of their developing life.

    25. christopher1393 on

      The sheer volume of stress I had over my exams. I have ADHD to a rather extreme level (did not know it at the time) so studying was a brutally difficult experience. Even if I could manage to sit down and start studying, trying to get the information into my head and stay there required so much mental effort that I would spend hours trying to study, maybe only 20% actually sticking, on a good day and I would beat myself up over it.

      Didn’t help that people around me, including my teachers and parents kept telling me that I needed to apply myself more or not be so lazy. I Ended up doing a lot better than I expected but I do remember my mother saying to me after showing her my results, results that were really good and got me into my college, “you could have done so much better if you actually studied.” Which was just a shitty thing to say to someone who tried really hard and actually did well.

      Now I have an official AuDHD-Combined diagnosis 13 years later and the medication and treatments have changed my life. But looking back, for those final two years of school I was miserable. The insane amount of pressure and my genuine struggles with studying being dismissed and forcing myself into hours of studying a night without the actual problem being addressed broke me.

      Looking back now, all that pressure and constant putting down and dismissal of what I know now is a genuine nuerodevelopmental disorder destroyed me. Mentally, emotionally and physically. I was wildly depressed, anxious 24/7, constantly putting myself down, not sleeping right, feeling like a failure, that I had no future, etc.

      I even developed multiple eating disorders from stress and the bad self image I was building of myself in this time. And those eating disorders were bad. My weight went to extremes in both ways. And when it was done, that was it. I got into college and those results were never important again. And now I am just pissed off over it. All that stress, pressure, hard work that pretty much destroyed me and it never really mattered after school.

    26. Elliotlewish on

      Poor kid. I feel really sorry for his family, too. I remember how I felt when I failed my maths GCSE when I was a teenager – like a total useless failure, that I’d let everyone down, and that my future was already over.

    27. I’ve been fairly close to this scenario.

      Was bullied fairly relentlessly at school, I hid and put all my efforts into trying to stay out of the other kid’s line of fire. My grades suffered massively as a result and teachers could never make the connection between my behaviour and my grades.

      My parents never knew, as I had issues explaining my school situation to them, so I would typically wallpaper everything as fine. They would be furious at me for having bad grades, despite knowing I was cleverer than my results often showed. They never really knew about the bullying either. I was even shortlisted for some special classes, despite lacking the prerequesite learning difficulties.

      When a student is repeatedly told that GSCE’s and their results are the academic foundation you will build *your entire life on,* it hangs very heavy in the air when test-season comes up, and the anxiety it brings out in children is overwhelming. In the mind of my teenage self, if I fail these tests, what is the point of continuing further? Why carry on if I failed at the first hurdle?

      It’s frankly harrowing, and I pray my kid never has to deal with what I dealt with. The maelstrom of social and academic pressures can do invisible damage to kids you might see as well-adjusted.

    28. VolcanoSpoon on

      I’m gonna call bullshit on this. I failed GSCE Maths first time round and I retook it at a later date while doing A levels.

      No-one normal, not even autists, kill themselves over a fucking Maths exam. Particularly when they’re a “top gamer” and have work experience in the games industry. There’s just too much stimulation to just kill yourself over an exam.

      I dislike seeing scapegoats.

    29. twinkmaster600 on

      I almost attempted after my GCSE’s for this sane reason. The pressure was so immense I felt as if failing my maths was the end. So much pressure from teachers adding up every day with the prospect of me never getting over a certain grade because of the paper I was on, I ended up coming close.

    30. Too much emphasis is put on test scores these days. Jobs that shouldn’t require a levels do and it’s fucking people up. This poor boy.

    31. There’s no safe guarding when it comes to exams which I find strange. Kids should be enjoying their youth without too much pressure on exams that don’t even really mean much. There’s people out there with A stars who are in minimum wage jobs and people who failed being extremely skilled tradesmen. There’s no nurture for these kids to feel like they mean something and have a purpose in life.

    32. sickofsnails on

      I hate that people are injecting their own thoughts on to a teenager that they don’t know. If his parents say that he was a happy boy, he probably mostly was. Sometimes acute periods of distress are a lot harder for people of a generally happy demeanour, because they have poor mechanisms to cope with the rough times and everything just feels like it’s gone to shit at once.

      The parents have lost their teenage boy to suicide. They don’t owe the general public a response that’s dishonest to them. The journalist isn’t going to report that the boy is a major depressive if that wasn’t true. The fact it was impulsive and unplanned makes it even harder for his parents to comprehend and process.

      Not only have they lost their son, they’ve lost their son because he took his own life. It’s a very different experience to an accident or illness and seemingly extremely unexpected. It’s a massive burden to live with, especially as loving parents and not something that most of society won’t start pointing fingers or making up their own narratives. Many of the reactions here prove that point.