>A mother who killed her newborn baby boy in 1998 **while in the grip of severe post-natal depression** has been given a two-year suspended prison sentence after a judge decided the case “called for compassion”.
Caramelised_Onion on
Despicable coward. Murdering a baby by shoving tissue down its throat? What the fuck.
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PossibleBasket4640 on
This is encapsulates one of the main issues with the English judiciary.
I have no concerns over their training, political impartiality, rigor in determining the letter of the law. But they are too sheltered from reality to see out their discretionary functions effectively.
Time and time again, we see that they are sentimental, emotional, and reach different outcomes based on offender profiles. Particularly with regards sentencing. They get carried away in the emotion and sympathy for the offender, long and short of it.
Why is a judge effectively praising the defendant whilst delivering a manslaughter sentence (“such is your personality”). It comes across as a doddering, fond old uncle who is has a kind of chivalrous soft spot that he can’t help.
Pleasant-Story6450 on
So if I’m depressed as a man and I have a child with someone. Can I also kill the baby and get a suspended sentence with a stupid twat for a judge giving me sympathies for bizarre platitudes of consideration?
Much as I don’t want to play ‘muh double standards’ this just rubs as inconsistent.
Edit: All the responses are reasonable. Why the fuck am I getting downvoted anyway? I’m glad I’m using an alt fuck this app.
Dadavester on
So, severe depression is now an excuse for Murder.
Good to know.
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So diminished that she was able to hide her pregnancy, hide the birth and shove tissue down the baby’s throat killing the baby and then hiding the body AND then living a normal life with her husband looking after their other baby.
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So she murders a baby hides it for 27 years no problemo but gets a suspended sentence?
Panda_hat on
Disgraceful. The passage of time doesn’t make what she did any different. If it had happened last week she would have been harshly punished, as she should be now. She murdered a newborn.
Flux_Aeternal on
Genuinely disgusting sentence. A premeditated and planned murder of a baby followed by decades of cover up and complete lack of remorse and she walks free because she had “at least moderate” depression. Post natal depression doesn’t impair your criminal responsibility for 30 years and remorse that only appears after someone is caught is hardly genuine.
AlfaG0216 on
I don’t claim to be an expert of post natal depression but nonetheless this doesn’t sentence doesn’t sit well with me.
ManOnNoMission on
Look at all the legal “experts” in here bashing the judge. I rather take the word of a judge proceeding over a case with access from Doctors, Police and others than random redditors.
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>A mother who killed her newborn baby boy in 1998 **while in the grip of severe post-natal depression** has been given a two-year suspended prison sentence after a judge decided the case “called for compassion”.
Despicable coward. Murdering a baby by shoving tissue down its throat? What the fuck.
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This is encapsulates one of the main issues with the English judiciary.
I have no concerns over their training, political impartiality, rigor in determining the letter of the law. But they are too sheltered from reality to see out their discretionary functions effectively.
Time and time again, we see that they are sentimental, emotional, and reach different outcomes based on offender profiles. Particularly with regards sentencing. They get carried away in the emotion and sympathy for the offender, long and short of it.
Why is a judge effectively praising the defendant whilst delivering a manslaughter sentence (“such is your personality”). It comes across as a doddering, fond old uncle who is has a kind of chivalrous soft spot that he can’t help.
So if I’m depressed as a man and I have a child with someone. Can I also kill the baby and get a suspended sentence with a stupid twat for a judge giving me sympathies for bizarre platitudes of consideration?
Much as I don’t want to play ‘muh double standards’ this just rubs as inconsistent.
Edit: All the responses are reasonable. Why the fuck am I getting downvoted anyway? I’m glad I’m using an alt fuck this app.
So, severe depression is now an excuse for Murder.
Good to know.
So diminished that she was able to hide her pregnancy, hide the birth and shove tissue down the baby’s throat killing the baby and then hiding the body AND then living a normal life with her husband looking after their other baby.
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So she murders a baby hides it for 27 years no problemo but gets a suspended sentence?
Disgraceful. The passage of time doesn’t make what she did any different. If it had happened last week she would have been harshly punished, as she should be now. She murdered a newborn.
Genuinely disgusting sentence. A premeditated and planned murder of a baby followed by decades of cover up and complete lack of remorse and she walks free because she had “at least moderate” depression. Post natal depression doesn’t impair your criminal responsibility for 30 years and remorse that only appears after someone is caught is hardly genuine.
I don’t claim to be an expert of post natal depression but nonetheless this doesn’t sentence doesn’t sit well with me.
Look at all the legal “experts” in here bashing the judge. I rather take the word of a judge proceeding over a case with access from Doctors, Police and others than random redditors.