
US threatens to double taxes on UK firms under 91-year-old rule
https://www.thetimes.com/business-money/companies/article/donald-trump-may-double-uk-firm-taxes-dvswjlxgb?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1744017907-1
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Well that’s it for me, fuck the US and absolutely anything I can trace back to a US company.
Archive version. https://archive.ph/2025.04.05-231231/https://www.thetimes.com/business-money/companies/article/donald-trump-may-double-uk-firm-taxes-dvswjlxgb
Anyone got a link that doesn’t require a Krypton Factor assault course to be completed before you can read the article?
America is no longer our friend. The so called special relationship is dead. We need to get closer to our European partners and stop buying American goods and services.
Apparently trying to make American tech companies pay tax in the territory they generate profit is ‘unfair’.
*impoverishment of the UK state intensifies*
Anyone else see the irony here in that the US originally rebelled against the UK because we taxed them too much?
But Starmer promised that everything was cool between us and the Americans!
You’re not telling us that Trump does what he’s always done and double crossed everyone who has ever worked with him, known him, or tried to get to know him… right?
Seriously, the British Government’s actions over the past couple of months have been like watching a person who is in an abusive relationship. You keep telling them to leave the bastard, but they keep refusing and claim its a “one off”, they “didn’t mean it”, it was an “accident” or “they’re changing”.
Yet Starmer will still act cautiously under the hope that Trump is reasonable and will listen to anyone but Fox News.
It may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal.
Henry Kissinger
The UK could actually start taxing some US firms, if they really want to take the gloves off.
But can’t see that or the US doubling taxes on UK firms in reality. Trump is just swinging his dick around a bit, and will put it away soon.
With this and the inability to get even a defence deal going with the EU it seems like a perfect time for r/CANZUK
Trump in one of his garbled speeches said other countries have treated the US “so cruel”, saying prices will go up but sometimes you have to take medicine to get better.
Him using the word medicine is hilarious, given they’ve got a measles issue at the moment.
And this is the man who had the fleeting thought that consuming bleach could kill COVID while an expert in the background rolled her eyes so hard she could have died from the whiplash.
Sadly, he never personally tested that theory.
Also the same country that said we’ve not fought a year in decades, forgetting we helped them during and after 9/11, and the last war they mostly fought on their own was a disaster (Nam). That’s ignoring the draft dodger can’t be bothered to support his troops regardless, so bringing up war is tedious.
While I certainly don’t celebrate this (live in the UK) but have been waiting for it. Join Europe, Canada and the many other countries actively speaking out against him and the states and not purchasing American goods or blessing them with your tourism spending!
So many people recently have been acting like this wasn’t coming and somehow being mum about him and staying out of the way we’d avoid his wrath. As a Canadian I’ve been shocked at how often I’ve heard this like Trump isn’t reliably self-centred, short sighted and unable to maintain relationships.
Support the UK! Buy local and think about where your custom and cash goes.
That’s going to be less than great for those firms that thought they might invest in US manufacturing capacity, which you would have thought was the kind of thing Trump might have been keen on, but it turns out not so much after all.
https://www.jcb.com/en-gb/news/2025/04/jcbs-new-usa-plant-to-double-in-size-in-wake-of-trumps-tariffs?page=1
Someone needs to put a list together of American products that we should avoid buying.
Ps I’m too lazy, bit I did just cancel Netflix.
Donald Trump is flexing his muscles proving to the world how powerful, important and influential he is. I don’t think these tariffs will last long. He’ll show the world how merciful he can be and it’s all part of the art of the deal. He wants everyone to bow down to him and give him what he wants, and his worshippers will love him more for it.
It makes me sick.
The White House is drawing up plans that could double the tax rate on the American arms of UK companies, in a move that experts fear could have an even greater impact than the tariffs on British goods unveiled last week.
The Trump administration is planning to invoke a 91-year-old rule that gives the president the authority to raise taxes on foreign companies if their home nation imposes levies that are deemed to unfairly target US businesses. Section 891 of the Internal Revenue Code, which gives the president this power, has never been used.
On the first day of his second term, Trump ordered his staff to investigate which countries imposed “discriminatory” taxes on US firms. The work was completed last week and senior accountants and tax consultants said that the UK, as well as most of the OECD club of developed nations, were likely to be on Trump’s list.
Trump’s tariffs have upended the global trade system and sent shockwaves across stock markets. Last week, the president imposed taxes as high as 49 per cent on trading partners, with Britain getting off comparatively lightly with 10 per cent.
However, Tim Sarson, head of tax policy for KPMG UK, said that if the Section 891 measures were enacted, they would have a greater impact than tariffs. “That’s the next battle in the [trade] war, and potentially affects the UK much more than the tariffs because we’re a services economy and this obviously affects service transactions as well.” Another US tax consultant agreed.
The Trump team believes that the UK’s Digital Services Act and its “undertaxed profits” rules both discriminate against US companies.
Since 2020, the UK has imposed a 2 per cent tax rate on tech companies that generate revenues of more than half a billion pounds on the sales they make in the UK.
The UK’s undertaxed profits rules, meanwhile, allow HMRC to level “top-up taxes” on companies that have a presence in Britain but which are based in a jurisdiction that charges less than the OECD’s global minimum of 15 per cent. The Trump team believes this is punitive for US companies.
One senior tax consultant in the US, who was close to the discussions, said that if any country was to make it on to the list, the UK would. They added that the US government was also angered by the UK’s “diverted profits rules”, the so-called Google Tax, which was introduced by George Osborne when he was Tory chancellor to clamp down on companies diverting their profits to lower-tax jurisdictions.
The Republicans are also trying to pass a measure called Section 899, which would increase tax rates by 5 per cent every year, rather than doubling the rate.
However, there is some ambiguity about whether Trump would be able to impose these rules, because the UK and the US’s trade arrangements could override Section 891 or 899.
Still think the UK should roll over and not retaliate? How about letting American poultry in?
The sooner the United Kingdom wakes up and responds like the rest of the Commonwealth and punches back the better off they’ll be. Don’t allow Trump to take advantage.
Isn’t the US the biggest investor in the UK? And the UK the biggest investor in US? Sure though stop buying a mcdonalds every week that’ll show them (and totally not punish the British franchise owner). People need to calm down about these tarrifs when our country was one of the least hardest to be hit. If things go up in price because of it stop buying it and find an alternative? Please can people start their boycott by deleting their reddit accounts
There has to be a collective effort, to overturn that moron of a president.
Since when did the times become a gossip paper like heat in the 90s
Amazing! Now let’s see Starmer and his cronies grovel some more.
Can we finally quit being walked over by America now under the pretences of this whole “special relationship”?
Dosnt this just give us the push we have needed for so long to just start making things made and owned in britain? including energy, and start profiting as a nation instead of relying on others?. I get we need some materials but I’m sure we could do a lot for ourselves