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    Misogynistic content driving UK boys to hunt vulnerable girls on suicide forums

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    2. JoJoeyJoJo on

      We’re really on the full-spectrum propaganda to drive support for these censorship laws, eh?

    3. West_Many4674 on

      Waiting for the comments justifying this behaviour.

      Their mental health/no male role models/misandry/fake news… 

      Edit: I also want to point out that I occasionally see articles where a refugee has committed a violent crime and has gotten away with it because his mental health was considered. The comments on such articles are always outraged. When the topic is on men in general (white men specifically) not refugees, tons of excuses are made for mental health as can be seen here. It’s just interesting.

    5. divers69 on

      There doesn’t seem to be much in the way of actual evidence here. More a concern about what might happen. I do note the usual application of the word vulnerable to the girls but not to the boys. Once this is done, and victim or potential victim status is attributed, it becomes virtually impossible to ask questions because it gets framed as supporting predatory behaviour. And so we get further from being able to find decent approaches to the situation than ever.

    7. West_Many4674 on

      Serious question for the men excusing this. Every time there is an article on men and boys being misogynistic, half the comments are excusing the men because they’re “isolated” or “receive restless misandry”. Do you think there are any situations where men should be held accountable for their misogynistic actions or should they always be forgiven because they’re experiencing “relentless misandry”? 

      I would have thought that teenage boys encouraging mentally ill women to kill themselves would cross the line, but I guess for some men on here even THAT is ok as long as the boys have seen too many mean words from feminists on the internet. 

    10. alwaysright0 on

      Yet another article about misogynist behaviour dismissed and denied on this sub.

      Discussing and tackling misogynist behaviour has to start some where.

      And no, discussing and attempting to tackle it is not ‘demonising’ all boys and men.

    12. Johnny_Magnet on

      Men, we need to stand up for the women and stop other men from doing this and behaving this way.

    13. KneedaFone on

      No wonder Adolescence has been treated like some sort of revelation, even though it barely covered how the kid got his views. This has been happening for the best part of 20 years. Fuck as bad as it is even targeting girls with low self esteem is 1 of the oldest tricks in the book.

      There are probably YouTube videos documenting times when 4chan did stuff like this, even before the Isla Vista attacks and rise of incels. We have an ignorant view towards the dark side of technology in this country and it’s only getting worse with parents raising their children on an iPad instead of doing proper parenting.

    14. pajamakitten on

      There are two issues here though: the boys’ behaviour and the existence of such forums. There is no excuse for the boys’ behaviour, but how do you tackle this when identifying the boys behind it is going to be impossible? How many of them are openly bragging about it where an adult can identify and intervene appropriately? You cannot demonise all boys because that only reinforces their worldview and makes the grifters seem right. The only solution would be to make internet discourse part of PSHE from the beginning of primary school.

      You them need to tackle youth mental health generally. The fewer victims they have and the fewer of these websites that exist the better. Internet censorship never works and only drives vulnerable people underground, potentially at risk of greater harm, so then what?

      Acting like this is simple to solve is ludicrous, however society needs to admit it has been failing young people for too long and that a major societal shift is needed now.

    15. ContributionIll5741 on

      Of course the manosphere types have immediately swarmed to make excuses for this.

    16. Baslifico on

      > The threat from young males wanting to carry out serious harm is so serious that counter-terrorism officers are joining the National Crime Agency (NCA) in the hunt for them, fearing they could go on to attack or kill.

      Ah yes, now it’s terrorists ***and*** paedophiles.

      Isn’t it amazing that having spent decades exploring the internet, not only have I never heard of these “Com networks”, neither has Google.

      Almost like they’re just pulling terms out of their arses.

    18. No_Contribution_5871 on

      Did anyone else watch that documentary with Matt Willis and the school kids putting away their phones for like a month or something?

      As part of the show they got two brand new phones, new sims, and set up tik Tok accounts as 13yr olds. In just a few hours the algorithm was feeding the 13 yr old girl suicide content and the 13 yr old boy misogynistic content…

    20. Ainastrasza on

      I’m sure this won’t be a popular take, but whatever, but does anyone else read this headline and think that it’s insane levels of hyperbole or flat-out made up as some sort of “preventative” measure?

      The idea of any “boy” finding Andrew Tate and then specifically going after girls who use hard-to-find, incredibly niche “suicide forums” is beyond absurd to me. There is no way on God’s green earth this is a common thing, and yet the powers that be are desperate to act like it is.

      There’s a hell of a lot of “Mights” and “Coulds” in this article too. It’s starting to come off as a front for excusing incoming censorship (which the Online Safety Act has already started fucking with for the record) because a hilariously tiny number of Teenagers found some Suicide Forum and decided to be trolls about it.

      I dunno man. This whole thing stinks of dishonesty.

    21. Chill_Panda on

      How many women have come out here to attack all men? What’s the fucking point, it just drives the wedge more and more.

      What these boys and men have done is vile, and it should be shunned, they should be charged and held accountable.

      But no, it’s not these individuals. It’s the “manosphere” as someone put.

      I’ve scrolled down and most of the top comments are”can’t wait to see men defend this” “counting how much of the manosphere comes out of the woodwork in this thread”

      And now I’m not doubting that some vile cretins are defending it. But like fuck men in general? Nahhh

      I’m sorry but this is part of the problem. Literally repeatedly lumping all men in with the bad examples is not going to get them agreeing with you.

      I’m gonna say fuck boys and men that abuse women, and fuck anyone that wants to make it a side vs side thing.

      I am apparently part of the “manosphere” and I do not defend this case, I also do not defend lumping all men together.

      Or when a woman does something is it because all women do it? Are you a womanosphere?

    22. Willywonka5725 on

      If I found out my lad did anything like this a) he wouldn’t wake up for a week, and b) I’d be utterly ashamed of my parenting.