Tough spot for Birmingham council tbh. Don’t envy them nor do I envy the workers. I understand both sides. The council genuinely probably can’t afford the demands & the workers of course have the right to refuse to accept the offer.
Zealousideal-Cry0 on
I can’t imagine any worker agreeing to a pay cut because of poor decision making from senior leaders and politicians over decades. Good on them for striking and shame on labour for trying to force them to accept ridiculous offers. The gov should start with legislating away the stupid idea that office and manual work are comparable for equal pay purposes as that mad judgement didn’t help the Council, and then ensuring that there is funding for these workers. Hard to believe labour are the party of paycuts for workers but that’s where we are nowadays…
jxg995 on
The only option moving forward is to break up BCC into smaller council areas. It is WAY too big, and when stuff like this happens it can’t be allowed to affect the lives of over a million people. The bin men have more strikes than the Star City Megabowl.
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TesticleezzNuts on
Good for them. It’s about time the workers started fighting back against all this bullshit.
We have all been getting fucked over so rich assholes can line their pockets for far too long.
ConnectPreference166 on
I live here and let me tell you it’s been awful! Such a complete nightmare. Mind you one guy in my area started picking up peoples extra bin bags for £3 each, he’s raking it in!
FoxtrotThem on
The people that live there need evicting, disgusting and shameful.
Grizzybaby1985 on
My so called manager is against the strike despite the fact we are underpaid as well i say fair play to them
CleanMyAxe on
So… Good time to buy a home in Birmingham then eh?
McFigroll on
did they seriously expect them to accept a pay cut?
NowImZoe on
There’s so much left out of this that no one seems to grasp.
The bin men don’t want more pay, they just don’t want their pay cut.
The council want to get rid of a particular role because it opens them up to equal pay disputes, the ones that bankrupted the council in the first place, and they don’t have money to pay everyone else an extra £8k.
The bin men argue the role is necessary for safety, despite the fact that no other councils have the equivalent.
The council has offered the bin men other roles, or to retrain to move into different roles without sacrificing their pay.
So for once the council are actually being sensible and reasonable, but it’s also pretty evident why the bin men are pissed. In the grand scheme of things the council are probably in the right here. If my employer decided to scrap my role in favour of more juniors there’s sweet fuck all I could do that the council hasn’t already offered.
Possible-Pin-8280 on
The number of economically inactive people in Birmingham is unsustainable, no wonder the council is a shambles.
ExtremelyFilthyWhore on
No money for British workers, but Fk tons for a foreign country. Gl🌍balism is a disease.
tipytopmain on
Call me unempathetic but I think its time to throw in the towel. The council has caused this nightmare but there’s obviously no money to make amends on this issue in particular.
AldrichOfAlbion on
The only option is for every in local elections to vote Conservative (or even Lib Dem.) These are the only councils who actually care about clean streets and not taking the taxpayer for a ride.
All taxpayers who paid council tax should be entitled to tax rebates if the council refuses to provide the services it is paid for.
Voting Labor gets you filthy streets. Vote Conservative for a cleaner Britain.
ManBearPigRoar on
Not sure why bins are going on strike nor who is employing them in the first place. We bought our bin from John Lewis, no mention of sentience or employment rights in the instructions. I suggest the council do similar.
SufficientBox7169 on
Kier needs to be replaced. He’s a Tory through and through. If labour keep this shite up they will lose the next election. Time for real change that benefits people below 65.
KingfisherBook on
Sack them and move onto people who want to work, you tried to even give them a pay rise clearly they don’t want to meet half way
pkb369 on
Can someone explain, I thought one of the main reasons is that the council was looking to remove ‘officer’ roles that arent in any other borough? I dont know what their roles actually is, but if they are redundent, why keep them on payroll?
SufficientBox7169 on
A community should sue the council for failure to provide adequate and fully paid up services. Too many people hide evil behind their jobs. Time to change
b1ld3rb3rg on
Strange that the council disputes the 8k figure and number of people affected without actually specifically saying an actual number or number of people affected.
MR777 on
How well are bin men paid that they can afford to strike for this long?
mdmedeflatrmaus on
Shall we put forward again all the shareholder profits and sticking everyday people with the bill! I support this all the way. Labour do your job, stop supporting mismanagement.
0100110101101010 on
It’s good to see visually the collapse that we all know is happening. Rather than the veneer of stability we get from so much of our media. Now we have rotting, stinking streets for late-capitalist austerity England.
Imaginary-Dot2190 on
Sack the lot of them get new staff that are prepared to do the job at there pay rate.
HealthyNatural5134 on
All the commy crap union shite coming home to roost.
GeorgeTrollson on
55 years for killing 22 people is… definitely something. He’ll be out in my lifetime
PurpleTranslator7636 on
Reminds me of Britain in the 70s.
Needs a Thatcher type once ever 40-50 years to sort out the useless fucking lot.
External-Piccolo-626 on
This is a total mess, and I don’t just mean the streets of Birmingham.
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Tough spot for Birmingham council tbh. Don’t envy them nor do I envy the workers. I understand both sides. The council genuinely probably can’t afford the demands & the workers of course have the right to refuse to accept the offer.
I can’t imagine any worker agreeing to a pay cut because of poor decision making from senior leaders and politicians over decades. Good on them for striking and shame on labour for trying to force them to accept ridiculous offers. The gov should start with legislating away the stupid idea that office and manual work are comparable for equal pay purposes as that mad judgement didn’t help the Council, and then ensuring that there is funding for these workers. Hard to believe labour are the party of paycuts for workers but that’s where we are nowadays…
The only option moving forward is to break up BCC into smaller council areas. It is WAY too big, and when stuff like this happens it can’t be allowed to affect the lives of over a million people. The bin men have more strikes than the Star City Megabowl.
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Good for them. It’s about time the workers started fighting back against all this bullshit.
We have all been getting fucked over so rich assholes can line their pockets for far too long.
I live here and let me tell you it’s been awful! Such a complete nightmare. Mind you one guy in my area started picking up peoples extra bin bags for £3 each, he’s raking it in!
The people that live there need evicting, disgusting and shameful.
My so called manager is against the strike despite the fact we are underpaid as well i say fair play to them
So… Good time to buy a home in Birmingham then eh?
did they seriously expect them to accept a pay cut?
There’s so much left out of this that no one seems to grasp.
The bin men don’t want more pay, they just don’t want their pay cut.
The council want to get rid of a particular role because it opens them up to equal pay disputes, the ones that bankrupted the council in the first place, and they don’t have money to pay everyone else an extra £8k.
The bin men argue the role is necessary for safety, despite the fact that no other councils have the equivalent.
The council has offered the bin men other roles, or to retrain to move into different roles without sacrificing their pay.
So for once the council are actually being sensible and reasonable, but it’s also pretty evident why the bin men are pissed. In the grand scheme of things the council are probably in the right here. If my employer decided to scrap my role in favour of more juniors there’s sweet fuck all I could do that the council hasn’t already offered.
The number of economically inactive people in Birmingham is unsustainable, no wonder the council is a shambles.
No money for British workers, but Fk tons for a foreign country. Gl🌍balism is a disease.
Call me unempathetic but I think its time to throw in the towel. The council has caused this nightmare but there’s obviously no money to make amends on this issue in particular.
The only option is for every in local elections to vote Conservative (or even Lib Dem.) These are the only councils who actually care about clean streets and not taking the taxpayer for a ride.
All taxpayers who paid council tax should be entitled to tax rebates if the council refuses to provide the services it is paid for.
Voting Labor gets you filthy streets. Vote Conservative for a cleaner Britain.
Not sure why bins are going on strike nor who is employing them in the first place. We bought our bin from John Lewis, no mention of sentience or employment rights in the instructions. I suggest the council do similar.
Kier needs to be replaced. He’s a Tory through and through. If labour keep this shite up they will lose the next election. Time for real change that benefits people below 65.
Sack them and move onto people who want to work, you tried to even give them a pay rise clearly they don’t want to meet half way
Can someone explain, I thought one of the main reasons is that the council was looking to remove ‘officer’ roles that arent in any other borough? I dont know what their roles actually is, but if they are redundent, why keep them on payroll?
A community should sue the council for failure to provide adequate and fully paid up services. Too many people hide evil behind their jobs. Time to change
Strange that the council disputes the 8k figure and number of people affected without actually specifically saying an actual number or number of people affected.
How well are bin men paid that they can afford to strike for this long?
Shall we put forward again all the shareholder profits and sticking everyday people with the bill! I support this all the way. Labour do your job, stop supporting mismanagement.
It’s good to see visually the collapse that we all know is happening. Rather than the veneer of stability we get from so much of our media. Now we have rotting, stinking streets for late-capitalist austerity England.
Sack the lot of them get new staff that are prepared to do the job at there pay rate.
All the commy crap union shite coming home to roost.
55 years for killing 22 people is… definitely something. He’ll be out in my lifetime
Reminds me of Britain in the 70s.
Needs a Thatcher type once ever 40-50 years to sort out the useless fucking lot.
This is a total mess, and I don’t just mean the streets of Birmingham.