And by “British” you mean really, really expensive.
Salty_Nutbag on
Good old British wind and sunshine.
None of that dodgy foreign stuff.
GenXcellency on
Good. If nothing else, the last few years have shown the problem with using natural gas sourced from Russia.
DadVan-Soton on
Well, that and Gordon Brown investing a shitload in renewables/offshore wind to avoid being dependant on Putin.
Cameron stopped that shit in his first day, and drove over the planning law to force 144 German made gas generators installed onto green belt land.
Privately owned generators that are now too expensive to run, currently stood down and costing the govt a fortune.
GreatBritishHedgehog on
I think wind and solar are great, they absolutely have their place
But they have been rushed in, and Net Zero fans can’t really answer the question of what we do when the wind isn’t blowing and the sun isn’t shining. As a result, we are now reliant on importing gas and energy costs are sky high with no sign of them coming down.
Yes I know the pricing system needs reform, but the underlying issue is that wind and solar alone will never be enough. You need 24/7 abundant energy to grow an economy. We now have 25% less electricity supply than in 2005.
We should not have been so quick to shut down coal, and we’ve been far too slow to build nuclear, especially SMRs which could have been produced by Rolls Royce, also supporting a British company and making energy “more British”
TWOITC on
Right now 10% of our electricity comes from France
And after all, what could be more British than crippling prices and being told you aren’t allowed to complain about it?
qwerty_1965 on
This is how to help undercut the right wing pro carbon lobby/shills. Branding.
Low_Map4314 on
Great.. now how do we change the pricing mechanism where the cost isn’t set by gas..
hungry_bra1n on
Aren’t our electricity cost four times greater than the EU average?
xylophileuk on
Energy security should fall under National defence, we should be completely self sufficient in energy
circle1987 on
Right. So how long before prices start coming down? I’m confused. I’m all for paying more in the next few years – on the basis that we’ve paid off the D&R for these energy technologies and that I’ll start seeing cost of energy reduce.
Everyone I know can’t afford this “energy nationalism”.
Nobody i know is saying “I don’t mind my energy bills are 10x more than a decade ago. At least its ‘more british’”
tag1989 on
yes, but as always: what is the price?
if it’s low enough, then renewables can come from easter island and pitcairn island for all i care
permanent 2p per kWh incoming boys, thanks to the statues and inbreds, no?
Top-Bison-345 on
Is it cheaper yet? Of course not, any savings will just be paid to executives.
blob8543 on
Right wingers should completely ignore this study if they don’t want their brains to explode.
SchmittVanDean on
There’s something charming about academics being reduced to talking like this to try desperately to appeal to people who made their minds up 40 years ago and have decided to never learn a new thing. Wind farms for some, miniature Union Jacks for others
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And by “British” you mean really, really expensive.
Good old British wind and sunshine.
None of that dodgy foreign stuff.
Good. If nothing else, the last few years have shown the problem with using natural gas sourced from Russia.
Well, that and Gordon Brown investing a shitload in renewables/offshore wind to avoid being dependant on Putin.
Cameron stopped that shit in his first day, and drove over the planning law to force 144 German made gas generators installed onto green belt land.
Privately owned generators that are now too expensive to run, currently stood down and costing the govt a fortune.
I think wind and solar are great, they absolutely have their place
But they have been rushed in, and Net Zero fans can’t really answer the question of what we do when the wind isn’t blowing and the sun isn’t shining. As a result, we are now reliant on importing gas and energy costs are sky high with no sign of them coming down.
Yes I know the pricing system needs reform, but the underlying issue is that wind and solar alone will never be enough. You need 24/7 abundant energy to grow an economy. We now have 25% less electricity supply than in 2005.
We should not have been so quick to shut down coal, and we’ve been far too slow to build nuclear, especially SMRs which could have been produced by Rolls Royce, also supporting a British company and making energy “more British”
Right now 10% of our electricity comes from France
[https://grid.iamkate.com/](https://grid.iamkate.com/)
And after all, what could be more British than crippling prices and being told you aren’t allowed to complain about it?
This is how to help undercut the right wing pro carbon lobby/shills. Branding.
Great.. now how do we change the pricing mechanism where the cost isn’t set by gas..
Aren’t our electricity cost four times greater than the EU average?
Energy security should fall under National defence, we should be completely self sufficient in energy
Right. So how long before prices start coming down? I’m confused. I’m all for paying more in the next few years – on the basis that we’ve paid off the D&R for these energy technologies and that I’ll start seeing cost of energy reduce.
More British by [increasing non-British imports](https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&c=UK&interval=year&year=-1&legendItems=dz7zc)?
By what measure?
https://news.sky.com/story/nearly-half-of-uks-offshore-wind-capacity-owned-by-state-owned-foreign-entities-analysis-shows-12705500
Everyone I know can’t afford this “energy nationalism”.
Nobody i know is saying “I don’t mind my energy bills are 10x more than a decade ago. At least its ‘more british’”
yes, but as always: what is the price?
if it’s low enough, then renewables can come from easter island and pitcairn island for all i care
permanent 2p per kWh incoming boys, thanks to the statues and inbreds, no?
Is it cheaper yet? Of course not, any savings will just be paid to executives.
Right wingers should completely ignore this study if they don’t want their brains to explode.
There’s something charming about academics being reduced to talking like this to try desperately to appeal to people who made their minds up 40 years ago and have decided to never learn a new thing. Wind farms for some, miniature Union Jacks for others