Nigel Farage Branded a ‘Con Artist’ by Green Party Leader Who Challenges Him to Climate Debate
Nigel Farage Branded a ‘Con Artist’ by Green Party Leader Who Challenges Him to Climate Debate
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Nigel Farage Branded a ‘Con Artist’ by Green Party Leader Who Challenges Him to Climate Debate
Nigel Farage Branded a ‘Con Artist’ by Green Party Leader Who Challenges Him to Climate Debate
Posted by huntsab2090
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He is a fucking con artist. He’s incompetent, he hates his own people, hates Britain and is a total burden on society. All of his type are.
> Ramsey suggested that Farage’s views may be linked to the financial interests of his donors, labelling him a “con artist”
“Nigel Farage is a performer, a con artist. He will say or do anything. He will happily dance to a populist tune regardless of its impact. Let’s not forget he’s bankrolled by fossil fuel interests, climate deniers, and major polluters—taking in £2.3 million since the 2019 election.”
He kind of nails it doesn’t he.
Of all the crimes Farage has committed (and there are many), helping his beloved Donald Trump get into the White House (especially the second time) may have been the biggest one of them all (and that includes environmentally based on what Trump is doing to the ecosystem of the US).
The ramifications of his taking Brexit to the US to prop up Trump 2.0 has been felt on a global scale and anyone who shows support for Farage at this stage is directly supporting the Kremlin.
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Considering what Labour has become in terms of policy, Lib Dem’s obsession with coming across cartoonishly affable, the only real policy debate left in this country is Green vs Reform. Everything else is theatre politic divorced from tangible ideology.
The anti-nuclear power Green Party lecturing the pro-nuclear power Reform UK party.
I’ll get my popcorn.
Why would you challenge a con artist to a debate?
You cannot debate someone like Farage on climate change. Debate, as a format, only works if there is a common respect for truth.
Farage will stand there and lie and gish gallop. He won’t be defeated by facts because he will just lie in response.
The only format that really beats this is sitting the denier down and making them go through line by line which bit of science is wrong.
– Do you accept CO2 absorbs infra-red?
– Do you accept that this means more CO2 means more heat?
-Do you accept we can track biogenic vs fossil CO2 via isotopes?
-Do you accept temperatures can be tracked via ice cores?
And so on and so on.
Of course he would never accept that format.
What will happen in a debate is he will shout ‘they said temperatures would double and they didn’t’ or ‘they can’t forecast if it will rain next week but claim they can model 40 years time’ and other half truths and lies, and the other side will never get to explain why yhrsr are lies.
I would LOVE to see Adrian Ramsay wipe the floor with Farage but I’d imagine poor old Nige will refuse to debate and act like refusing to do so is about being ‘above’ the Greens rather than pants pissing scared of actually having to defend his views against somebody who knows what they’re talking about.
Please no. Any time he does a TV debate he gets really sweaty.
Nick Clegg tried the same thing – it didn’t work.
Farage doesn’t thrive on facts – he stirs up emotions and appeals the pre-existing views of the audience – the audience Cba with troublesome evidence and best practice – they just want a scape goat .
Farage has definitely gotten worse at debate.
Last few times I’ve seen him pushed he just does the hyperbolic “oh yeah let’s just keep doing X, Y, Z that’ll be fine!” thing. He doesn’t really engage with the topic or offer solutions. It just kind of sucks. I think you should be able to hold up under pressure. The other parties have to.
I doubt he’ll take up the offer, especially with the decent polling they’ve been getting.
You can’t debate liars, they get the news story and quickly move on.
It’s not about facts and figures anymore I’m afraid but popularity, really decisive comments and generating bait and rage.
You just need to keep throwing utter bullshit and often enough it sticks because people can’t be arsed to do any sense of fact checking or critical thinking
He picks his battle grounds and avoids anything else
Would be a waste of time.
Farage would just be concentrating on the inconvenience that green solutions cause while ignoring the actual problem that needs to be addressed.
To be fair, the only way the Green Party can get some air time is by mentioning farage
Bit fucking rich coming from “don’t build nuclear, build renewables. Just don’t build them in my own backyard”. The green party is a con of it’s own. Farage being a bigger con artist doesn’t change that. You can’t be pro net zero while also opposing everything to help that aim.
The debate with him and his ilk has been going over the last two decades and it went like this:
1. There is no climate change
2. If there is climate change, it is not man made
3. If it was man made, it’s not us that is doing it
4. Even if it was us, we need to do it this way, there is no alternative
5. But if there are alternatives to how we are doing it they will be too impossible/expensive/ it will never work
6. So, the Chinese are doing it but it is too late for us to implement
7. But there are benefits of climate change: think of arctic passage, wine groves in SE England
I think Nigel is now between 2-3 of the ladder of denial
They would lose the debate as soon as he brought up nuclear.
The problem is that not only do his voters disagree, they see this as an endorsement of their faith. They will see this as the establishment trying to silence him because he knows the truth about climate change. Climate sceptics do not want the truth, they want to feel superior for knowing something others do not.
I believe in climate change.
I just believe there is anything we can do about it as a country.
All attempts at an international solution (Paris, Kyoto etc) have failed. And unilateral action has been expensive and totally ineffective.
So at this point the only logical steps are adaption or do nothing.
There is a geo strategic argument for complete energy independence but that is as much an argument for drilling as it is for renewables.
I suspect the general population is more aligned with this general view than the Green Party realise and they should be careful of a debate where Nigel looks like the sensible option…
He is putins agent in the UK. Everything he has done is for the benefit for ru**ia. While MEP he railed against Europe and divided the public against them.
Made up a party to lie to the public that the UK would be much better off. He promotes views that work hand in hand with ru**ias ambitious.
His purpose is to destabilise our country and benefit from the chaos. He is a disgusting vile rate that claims to be British but has absolutely no sense of being a citizen of the UK and work to improve it.
The problem with Farage is that he works for America
Its like debating creationists
They insist on “clarifying terms” and get really picky about things that Don’t matter.
Add to that his ability to tell a truth and imply something by it. E.g. Dulwich college has a great reputation for covering fees for poorer children. He then claims he was born working class. The two are unconnected but the implication is Dulwich covered his costs, which they didn’t.
Same as telling Sunderland Steel workers he “worked with metals”. He was a commodities trader.
Problem is none of this matters unless immigration is brought under control