Ex-UK Special Forces break silence on ‘war crimes’ by colleagues
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj3j5gxgz0do
Posted by Intelligent_Front967
Ex-UK Special Forces break silence on ‘war crimes’ by colleagues
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj3j5gxgz0do
Posted by Intelligent_Front967
9 Comments
Yet no mention of actual ‘EVIDENCE’ and if this alleged ‘Veteran’ can back up his claim??
Has he provided anything to the inquiry….no mention of that either??
Until there’s credible evidence then it’s just an unsubstantiated ‘claim’.
I thought part of the point of special forces is that they engage in “special” behaviour to achieve their objectives. I’d be more surprised if they hadn’t committed war crimes.
If we want the likes of Russia and Israel to be held accountable for their actions then we ourselves need to accept accountability.
The statement by David Cameron just doesn’t seem good enough. It is not like he was warned once of this.
I recall there being a similar story coming out about New Zealand a few years back as well.
These stories always shock me, not the events, but the fact no Journalist seemingly has spoken to any Infantry that served in Afghanistan since 2002.
Pretty much any soldier, who toured in Afghanistan, can tell you about SAS war crimes. I’ve heard *tonnes* of stories over the years since I grew up in a Military town so lots of my friends ex military. “breaking the silence” is a funny way to put it, as former SAS *brag* about this stuff relentlessly.
>>SAS murder unarmed people in their sleep
*Wrong*, the “favourite” feeling I’ve heard from many, MANY people, is that SAS would go into a room of people sleeping, put guns to their heads, cover their mouths, *wake them up*, as they come into consciousness, tell them some badass line about how they are going to die, and as the fear and realization seeps into their eyes, finally kill them. This gives the best war boner apparently. I heard this story, *numerous times*, from various people, back in the 2000s.
Still the best SAS story is from a friend who said on an operation, it was dead silent, night time, they were closing in on target, and suddenly they heard the *predator clicking sound,* Coming from various locations around them, and of course it was SAS just being assholes lol.
Reminds me of that exposé about the Navy SEALs/Delta Force ( I forget which name was being used at the time ) that had a lot of interviews with guys between…I think it was 2nd Gulf and then the assassination of Saddam? Been ages since I read anything on it but the cheery way these fellas described “canoeing” dead jihadis was pretty gross.
Yeah no shit. They have committed countless war crimes but it’s all hidden and the British public will pretend nothing happens
We wonder why the taliban enjoy such support, and the answer is we handed it to them on a silver platter
>”If it looked like a shooting could represent a breach of the rules of conflict, you’d get a phone call from the legal adviser or one of the staff officers in HQ. They’d pick you up on it and help you to clarify the language. ‘Do you remember someone making a sudden move?’ ‘Oh yeah, I do now.’ That sort of thing. It was built into the way we operated.”
Before the comments of “oh it’s a mistake in heated moments”; this isn’t that. This is deliberate rot and a culture thats encouraging worse performance in the field, just to harden a culture of machismo. Lugging about fake guns and spending extra time on scene to set up staged photos makes these troops less effective.
This isn’t the ‘hard choice’ militaries breaking the law is portrayed as. With this being effective, not committing war crimes and not radicalisng the local populace seems to all go hand in hand. And we toss it all away… For what?
The war crimes themselves are merely a symptom. The real problem was putting our men into a position where they had to wage a decades long open ended counter insurgency in a foreign country that clearly never wanted us there with no measurable conditions for victory or defeat.
We already knew from as recently as Northern Ireland that the longer a guerrilla is waged, the uglier, messier and more traumatised and depraved the participants get… and this was on British territory against people that were linguistically and culturally nearly identical. So imagine how much worse the dehumanisation and the psychological rot mustve become with these operators fighting for years in an alien country thousands of miles away that shares absolutely no values or commonality with their own with no end in sight.
We have centuries of literature and whole genres of films about how dragged out low intensity conflicts with blurred lines and deniability can turn the best into monsters and yet we still have to feign shock and surprise when our men end up going postal exactly as predicted.
This will end up like the Australians, a few men get singled out and hung to dry, the media and the public gets the spectacle of ‘justice’ to feel good about themselves while the likes of Blair, Brown and Cameron who wouldve been briefed on all that was going on and couldve pulled the plug at any moment get to carry on life as usual.