China has had successes and failures with its soft power. Its Belt & Road initiatives to bolster its business and trade networks are probably its most notable successes. On the other hand, its police outposts to monitor Chinese nationals in foreign lands come across as creepy, and its intolerance of any deviation from its views about Taiwan is legendary.
China is about to (if it isn't already) become the 21st century's technology leader. It's leading the 21st century energy transition and looks poised to lead in AI & robotics too. How Chinese will the rest of the world look in the 2030s & 2040s? Will China ever be as good at exporting its culture as the US was?
China is more popular than the US in most countries, including in Canada and most of Europe. Will this lead to permanent re-ordering of international relations?
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we all know why this is the case for now. once the orange man is gone, it’s gonna be another story.
China is still an authoratarian regime, don’t let the outward appearances of modernity change your view. Go ask the residents of Hong Kong what they think of China… The reality is China plays nice until it doesn’t… Of course the US is no angel but I think you have a heck of a lot more transparency with US policy and ability to make your case than With CCP
Anti-American sentiments are popular and trendy now. Once that starts getting boring a more sober analysis will show China is worse in damn near every way.
China is too fragile to be a real superpower. The more powerful they become the more criticism they will face. They handle criticism very poorly. You can’t be top dog if you cry every time someone has something negative to say about you. They should enjoy this while it lasts.
It’s hilarious how other countries will put the US below China while completely ignoring all the human rights violations, Muslim concentration camps, organ harvesting, lack of freedom of the press, and all the other terrible shit. America has its problems go try and live in China, go run a business there and see how great it is
I think the polls are misleading to due recent politics and not a proper reflection of the perception score. The graph indicates the US is near the popularity of Russia and trending quickly to become less popular.
These countries (China/Russia) have antithetical values to western democracies that make this very hard to believe.
both the USA’s sudden decline and China’s rapid ascent were preceded by longer periods of subtler decline and ascent, respectively. What we’re seeing are the tipping points of longer-term and more massive processes.
Trump is the face of deeper rot. That liberal Fukuyamaist fantasy world that’s a kind of unending 1990s? That’s gone, and it’s not coming back. You’d all best get reacquainted with the flows of history, things are about to get dialectical.
I am a Manga fan for 25 years now. After the Manhwa wave in the 2010s (Korean Mangas) the Chinese Mangas (Manhua) are basically 90% of the supply. They are notoric for using settings in the martial arts world and isekai stuff, but the speed at which they release is absolutely ridiculous. And its basically all colored…
That’s quite an achievement for a President’s first 100! Krasnov will be rewarded handsomely, with a gala atop Moscows tallest balcony…
Being viewed slightly more favorably than Trumpamerica…is a pretty low bar my friend.
Do other countries not like freedom and like slave / child labor or something?
Discussing this on an American app. By the way I never heard anyone using a VPN to use Baidu.
Where are you hearing that Canadians view China favourably? You are incorrect.
Where are you getting that they’re “more popular” than the USA in most other countries? The data I’ve seen doesn’t say that. Even if that’s the case it’s only a temporary change caused by the negative perceptions on Trump.
“This is not a book about the decline of America, but rather about the rise of everyone else.”
Fareed Zakaria’s “The Post-American World” argues that the United States’ influence in global affairs is declining, as other nations, particularly China and India, are rising in economic, industrial, and cultural power. While the US retains military and political dominance, other countries are becoming significant players in various fields. Zakaria’s book emphasizes the need for the US to understand and adapt to this changing international landscape.
With the current regime, America is very quickly losing influence.
Uhhh, obviously. America’s on the fast track to becoming one of the most hated countries on Earth.
That’s not a surprise at all. Currently Trump is engaged in a trade war with the entire world and has slapped many countries, including our closest friends, partners, and allies, with economy crippling tariffs.
Unsurprisingly, citizens of these countries view this as unwarranted aggression. Which it is. Combine that with Trump badmouthing entire nations publicly, insulting world leaders, and suggesting that the US will no longer honor many previous commitments, including defense treaties, and suddenly people all over the world will absolutely despise us.
Which is why Trump’s behavior is so insanely self-defeating. Instead of rallying our allies, friends, and partners around the world in an effort to isolate, cripple, and shame China, Trump has *pushed them closer to China*. I mean, Christ, the leaders of South Korea, Japan, and China put out a joint statement condemning Trump’s trade wars and promising mutual support if needed. These 3 countries have fought amongst themselves, and committed countless atrocities against each other (well SK was mostly just the victim of atrocities), for the past 1000 years, and Trump managed to push them together.
Genuinely the stupidest, most destructive policy implemented by the federal government in my lifetime. Easily the dumbest thing we’ve done since the end of WWII hands down.
what does it even mean that some country is “more popular” than other?
“Don’t trust China. China is asshoe!”
Remember when we used to care about Hong Kong? Now, we fuckin’ love CCP.
I think this is the red wave republicans kept talking about!
Has anyone asked the Uygers or Tibetans which country they like better?
I’m not a big fan of china but this makes sense usa is a country that supports genocide kills million of people every few years cripples the economy of 3rd world countries threatens to invade allies assassinates revolutionary leaders arround the world and they’ve done more harm than china (i’m not saying china is innocent).
Says who? I’m not a fan of the usa administration right now but the people I’ve met in usa were outright the most open and helpful people I’ve met in a long time.
Im smart enough to differentiate a government from their people and while Chinese people can be okay as well i ain’t dumb enough to suddenly think that the Chinese administration means well all of a sudden with Europe.
Grtz European.
Canadian here, I disagree. Trump is only here for 4 years or until he dies, the Chinese Communist Party will be here a lot longer than that.
Trend won’t hold if the US doesn’t have a dipshit president.
they are both aggressive authoritarian states. both need to get their shit straightened out.
Ask any of these people if they rather live in the U.S. or China and I suspect a very different answer
Love it. Western nations betraying their alleged Enlightenment principles to sidle up to a permanently authoritarian one-party State because of a cultural bias against a perceived authoritarian short-term administration. Or maybe it’s just about money in which case the liberal democratic order was always just a facade and Trump managed to pull back the curtain. Either way, there’s no way to defend this shift in the international order without gross moral hypocrisy…and yes, that includes lots in this thread.
International relations are built on power, not popularity. If most nations still view the US as the more powerful, they will bow and scrape to the US after all is said and done.
Read my comment history.
I’ve been saying this is a global narrative realignment around a BRICS centric rather than NATO centric power structure for months.
I’m about 80 days into learning Mandarin, lol.
Trump is going for a Nobel peace price for bringing the East Asian countries together.
A few months ago I was very disapproving of what China is doing, but then Trump 2.0 happened and now I’m like “weeeell……”
Proabably because the ills of China aren’t well discussed in traditional media, where trump eats up a lot of airtime.
Like don’t get me wrong, not a big fan of trump, but if Xi was held to the same standard by our media with similar coverage we’d doubtless be humming a different tune.