Is America headed for an age of dumb phones?

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  1. thisisinsider on

    ***From Business Insider’s Julia Pugachevsky***:

    Matt Thurmond seems like a poster child for tech-forward millennials. He runs an AI-assisted platform for mortgage professionals. He leads a nonprofit that connects longevity researchers, investors, and startups. He was the copresident of a technology conference at Harvard, where he got his MBA.

    So it’s a little surprising that Thurmond is almost never on his phone.

    Count him among the “appstinent” — one of a growing number of Americans, mostly millennials and Zoomers, vowing to live a life free of [endless scrolling](https://www.businessinsider.com/teens-high-school-ditched-their-smartphones-founded-luddite-club-2022-10).

    As evidence mounts of our collective phone addiction — and the toxic effects of social media — there’s a growing appetite for the Gospel of Appstinence. Searches for dumb phones have been surging. From Amsterdam to Brooklyn, there’s a growing trend of nightclubs requesting that revelers leave their phones at home — or at least keep them off the dance floor.

    Adults who grew up when the internet and social media were just taking off, are perhaps the most desperate to reclaim the attention and focus that technology has taken from them. But lately, the appstinence movement has also begun to capture teens and college students, many of whom grew up seeing their phones as integral to their social lives. A recent survey by the[ Pew Research Center](https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2024/12/12/teens-social-media-and-technology-2024/) found that most American teens have access to smartphones — and nearly half reported being online “almost constantly.”

    [Read more](https://www.businessinsider.com/appstinence-movement-tech-lovers-dumping-smartphones-age-of-dumb-phones-2025-5?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=insider-futurology-sub-post).

  2. Most of the developed world is so dopamine addicted they can’t go an hour without their phone. 

    I think it will be decades before people realize how we are destroying ourselves and our society. 

  3. 2Drogdar2Furious on

    I’m REAL close to going back to a dumb phone… only thing I want to keep is my music and that’s hard to do now, apparently, without a touchscreen.

  4. I hope so. If they could just make a dumb phone that also does music and GPS navigation, I’d abandon smartphones in a half a heartbeat.

  5. PumpkinCarvingisFun on

    I will not be giving my children smart phones, at least not ones that haven’t been dumbed down to the bare min they need. I have already started doing it to myself. These things aren’t good for us.

    Boredom breeds productivity and creativity.

    Some isolation breeds creativity.

    And dopamine addiction is very real and counterintuitive to learning and long-term goals.

  6. throwawayhyperbeam on

    There’s nothing stopping anyone from using a dumb phone right now. You certainly don’t have to use a smart phone.

    People with screen addiction or whatever have problems beyond the smart phone, the smart phone is just a symptom.

  7. First manufacturer that doesn’t force an insufferable “AI assistant” on me gets my money. 

  8. In other parts of the world sure, it’s already the societal norm in a lot of Europe. In the US however, not gonna happen anytime soon. It’s commonplace to walk into a gym and setup a tripod to film your entire workout, literally no one bats an eye, you got a long ways to go before an age of technological push back. I was just in a coffeeshop in Europe that didn’t allow phones, tablets, laptops etc on weekends and evenings. We need more of that everywhere

  9. It wholly ironic how *smart* people are increasingly using *dumber* technology thus making their thoughts and opinions *less* prevalent, *and* having fewer children.

  10. A flip phone that can take pictures, play music and give me Google maps is good enough

  11. Sad-Attempt6263 on

    if social media ceos were not so intent on letting toxic content permiate their websites and dividing the general user base so we can’t focus on dealing with issues then it’s better to  just leave and use dumb phones but the downside is you somewhat lose that connectivity which helped us meet so many different people in the first place and they really want to stop that whether subtly or just outright. 

  12. Snake_eyes_12 on

    I dont think so. There might be a handful of people here on reddit and a subbreddit dedicated to it. But a majority of Americans are too adhd. I tried it and I just can’t go without a smartphone.
    There is also the issue that smartphones is the only way for many to connect to the internet. Not everyone wants to dump money on a full blown PC like they used to. Which makes since if you wanna give it a try and have other forms of internet connectivity. But you can not function in this society without it.

  13. phoenixmatrix on

    I use my phone for web browsing, texting (plain old texting, not iMessage or Whatsnap), and 2 games that I usually play on my PC. The occasional youtube video.

    I could do all of this on one of those e-ink dumb phones except the games and youtube. I can play on my Switch/Steamdeck (and besides, the subway here doesn’t have internet between stations, so no big loss), and I can live without Youtube.

    the only real issue would be things that need to be done with an app, or is much easier to do…like two factor authentication stuff.

  14. WorldofLoomingGaia on

    I don’t think phones are even the problem. It’s social media.

    My phone is great. It’s replaced my mp3 player, TV, book collection, GPS, camera, gaming consoles, and so much more. I spent a lot of time on my phone but I’ve never felt “addicted”, I just feel like I’m doing things that I’d normally do spread over a bunch of different devices. But then again, I don’t doomscroll social media like a lot of people do these days.

    When people are addicted to their “phones”, 99% of the time what they’re actually addicted to is TikTok, Instagram, online ragebait, etc…all social media platforms deliberately designed to be as addictive as possible.

  15. BigMeatPeteLFGM on

    Impossible. With requirement to use authenticator apps or in app notifications, everyone needs a smart phone.

  16. I hope so. I held out so long against getting one and now that I do have one I’m totally addicted

  17. I mean, there’s even a sub, r/dumbphone, specifically for people like that.

    For me, personally, the biggest hurdle is music. I don’t use Spotify, and it’s usually the only music streaming app available.

  18. InfidelZombie on

    I think a much better solution is to simply not look at your phone unless you need something from it. I don’t know how people are spending 30+ minutes a day looking at their cell phone telephones.

  19. I’d do a dumb phone but it would need to have maps, weather, notes, camera; along with the usual calling and sms. And probably at least one data-based messaging app like whatsapp to avoid long distance charges when travelling.

  20. Improbus-Liber on

    I would love to have an open source smart phone. Unfortunately, while those exist, they are not ready for prime time… yet.

  21. GreenApocalypse on

    There is a Norwegian company called Xplora that does this with phones and smartwatchs. Available at Walmart, I think. The whole point is to have a much more curated experience. And costs a fourth of an iPhone

  22. super_slimey00 on

    ima be honest this only exist in dense metro areas where you’re literally always around something going on. This is not happening in the majority suburbs of america

  23. Dumb phones should be the only phones people under 16 are legally allowed access to. Can’t wait for a couple generations to go by and for people to look back in shock. It will be like leaded gasoline, asbestos, ads targeting junk food/tobacco/alcohol at youth.