Hammer Blow For Kemi Badenoch As Shock Poll Puts Tories In Fourth Place
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Hammer Blow For Kemi Badenoch As Shock Poll Puts Tories In Fourth Place
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/kemi-badenoch-setback-tories-fourth-polls_uk_682c2132e4b095274fad2efd
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I would laugh, if I didn’t think Reform was more dangerous
Reform still growing and Labour still going down. Onwards and upwards, Farage even still has the polling boost from Starmer’s Brexit reversal to come.
I’m no political strategist but maybe laser focussing on trans people isn’t a big vote winner
When is the deadline where they can remove her again?
I don’t know what it would take for me to entertain voting Tory in my lifetime at this point, such is the scale of their failures from 2010-2024. I guess if, for some reason, they were the only party that could credibly beat a far-right or far-left (by which I mean Galloway-esque) challenger, that’s about the only circumstance.
Their ideology is completely wack, their execution of said ideology is incompetent even if you liked it, and they show basically no acknowledgement of just how much damage they have done to the country – without contrition, why would I forgive them?
They have poisoned the well very thoroughly.
Conservatives really are in the shitter.
No leadership, no potential stars, no real strategy and can’t figure out if they want to be a strong conservative right leaning party or just use the words without the actions.
They should have years on the sidelines, learning their mistakes and get someone like Ben Wallace back in to lead them.
In my life time (32 years), the tories have been in government for 17 of those years and every single time they do a piss poor job only looking out for themselves and their donors. The destruction of the tory party can’t come soon enough, i can’t wait to see this abomination of a party disappear.
Next election is Reform vs Labour; the Tories just don’t know it yet.
They shouldn’t be fourth. They shouldn’t be the 2nd biggest Party in the UK right now.
They destroyed this country. People don’t seem to be admitting to themselves just how bad a position we are in right now. Never mind Brexit, Our Public Sector will take generations to fix after 14 years of Budget cuts hollowing them all out.
Said they’d reduce immigration to <100k, pushed it to 1 million instead (whether one agrees with it or not, it is offensive to be brazenly lied to).
Anyone still voting for them must be suffering from something.
It may be time for the old school conservatives, the ones who invented the single market, to “take back control” (hint hint nod nod) of this headless chicken of a a party.
> … Conservatives 16%
> The YouGov survey, carried out in the last two days, puts Reform UK in the lead on 29%, seven points ahead of Labour, who are on 22%.
> The Lib Dems are on 17%, having leapfrogged the Tories into third place.
Ref 29%
Lab 22%
LibD 17%
Tory 16%
If you assume Reform voters are either Tory and Labour, perhaps 70% Tory and 30% Labour. In a scenario without Reform then Tory might be 36% and Labour could be 29%.
This is mid electoral-cycle-blues.
The more you try to move to the right, you not gaining that many voters as they are already in Reform who is better at bullshitting, and you are losing voters from the centre-right to Labour, Lib Dems or none.
Not to mantion that they are just going 100% to the culture wars, when most people want a better living standard.
1922 member : This party is going to get a shellacking for the next while. Shall we elect a woman leader to take the brunt of it? Blame our bad leadership on her weak and feeble brain?
Other member : It’s going to be a real shellacking. We should not only elect a female leader to blame, but she should be black to deflect from the racism accusations these bad decisions will incur!
(general rabble of approval)
Positioning yourself as a reform alternative is stupid because you’ll always be out flanked by Farage. What exactly do the Tories stand for any more? There appears to have been very little introspection after the election and they have learnt precious few lessons from the past. Instead she’s treading the same old tired ground about beating “wokeness” without coming across as a sensible opposition. This hands votes to Reform and splits the right wing.
The Tories were fucked the second Boris purged the party of talent and replaced them all with loyalists. All the useless bastards that followed him, Truss, Sunak and now Badenoch are all just Johnson yes-men when it comes down to it and have no idea how to run a country.
Badenoch herself is just pointless, she opposes literally everything just for the sake of opposing. Remember when she went on a tangent about sandwiches being woke somehow? Utterly useless and knowing the Tory membership they’ll somehow vote in the worst option yet again.
Does not matter who is first or what place they sit in the polls – The house always wins
I just hope Reform can wipe out the tory and labour uniparty.
Who gives a toss about a tiny, irrelevant fringe party like the Tories? Dedicated to lining their pockets and those of their chums whilst fucking up about everything they touched or talked about for 14 years. Consign them to the history books and we’ll all move on.
The worst thing is that it took voters ten minutes to even remember that the Lib-Dems still exist. “Oh yeah, that lot, still better than the Tories.”
They moved from running the country to pleasing donors, but then fell into ‘give the people what they want’, chasing approval rather than putting forward sensible, solid policy.