Military gap years for teens and school lessons on defence to prepare UK for war

Can I get the gist on this from someone? I can’t see the linked article.

Btw guys this is like the last ditch attempt at trying to get people to join after this it’s conscription, our military as it is is pathetic in regard to retention and recruitment.

Find it hilarious they want people to join the military in a time when they’ve been stripping reasons to ever want to fight for your country.

Starting off census’ state that 1 in 6/7 or 10-11mill people in the UK weren’t born here. Theres a generation of children born to them families that see themselves not only as british but also another country.

You then have an entire generation that has been bent over backwards and dry fucked by the system, its pushed education fee’s up, made getting jobs harder, houses harder, bills higher, rent higher, its slagged them off as lazy, and talked down about them for years.

Nationalism imo has been slowly and quietly stripped, i feel like its fearful to fly the flag of this country when in this country, which is absolutely insane to me.

They’ve pushed a more global approach to lifestyles, to opinions and opened our eyes to a wider world. With the access to the internet, people can and have assimilated to other cultures and ways of living. They dont want to fight each other. Especially for wars that a lot of people feel aren’t their fight. (Obviously this isnt a bad thing but throws up its own issues when war is brought to the table).

There is some real disdain in society towards the way people are treated. From a subjective basis, many of my friends and those i work with, born here or not, state they’d rather rot in prison than fight for this country. If the country wants people to fight for it, they need to give the country and its people something to be proud of and fight for.

Finally, people have seen the history, the middle eastern wars in our lifetime, they’ve had friends, family die in a war that a lot of people feel we shouldn’t have continued or even been involved in.

It doesnt surprise me they want to teach this in school, its not about this generation, its about brainwashing the next to feel like they have to.

Wait, wasn’t this the same thing the Tories were pushing for but under National Service.

Hey kids , why don’t you consider dying for a country that offers you nothing! Don’t worry, when your service is done you can live on the street for free, and we won’t even charge you for the ptsd you will have from blowing up brown people in far away places who simply want us to leave them alone! Just think of the stories you will be able to tell of fear, and wounds, and death, and sleep soundly know YOU did something for profits for arms manufacturers across the west!

Oddly it seems like a good idea to me. Clearly most disagree but getting very useful military training for a year, save the money for uni or vocational training a year later. Some may go on and have careers in the military too. Win win win.

If this doesn’t work maybe they should do an American thing like paying for technical college tuition if you do two years of military service and remain in the reserve forces after.

Surely it beats working at Morrisons or JD Sports

The UK isn’t a country worth defending. Fix that then wonder why nobody is enlisting.

Yes, I can imagine all the teenagers signing up in droves to die for a country which hates them.

They slag them off in the paper every week, plus no jobs, no prospects, houses are 500k for a house the boomer paid 16K for.

… have a good time? How dare they?!!? clubbing is scandalously expensive, pubs are all closing and they even get slagged off for staying at home and playing video games.

Nationalism has been treated as, not only taboo but, practically a crime and literally a crime in a lot of instances for most of my life now and I’m almost too old to be conscripted.

What exactly are people being convinced to go and fight, and possibly die, for if it’s isn’t nationalism?

war with who? Russia? China? These are your enemies, not mine. I do not care

The simple fact is any large scale peer on peer conflict can’t survive on volunteers. It will need a conscription/draft to hike up the numbers. Afaik British forces prior to both world wars were pretty good but the regulars very quickly got rendered ineffective due to casualties and scale of deployments.

I guess the nuke should have put an end to the need for large scale industrial warfare. Or so we thought.

Dangerous times ahead, people need to understand our way of life isn’t an automatic universal given and it can be taken away by both internal and external threats. When the time comes will people even stand up for themselves?

I bet we paid a marking firm a fortune to come up with the idea of a “military gap year” as opposed to what this really is: extremely hard work on a temporary contract.