Teacher banned for ‘sex with pupil’ on night out

This is a weird one, and reads very badly (not the BBC’s fault, they have to be careful what they report) –

The guy is 33 now but this happened sometime between 2016 and 2019, so when he was somewhere between 23 and 27. He says “in my early 20s” in a statement, so we can assume it was near the start of his time at the school.

It says he is “adamant” the pupil was over 18 and an ex-student, but the article doesn’t state whether she was or not.

Now I realise that in a position of trust you need to be suspended/sacked for having sex with your own pupils, but, a 23 year old and an 18 year old isn’t in the slightest bit strange or unusual. Hell, try working in the pub industry – a 23 year old and a 17 year old isn’t unusual, or indeed illegal (though I grant many find it odd).

It also seems like he was coerced, if we take his recollection as read (pinch of salt of course), and not the other way around. The pupil didn’t report it as rape/assault from what the news story says, but I’m curious as to why she reported it to a police officer.

If this was rape/sexual assault, a suspension is the least of his worries and he should be arrested and charged.

But if not, seems the school had to follow procedure here, and fair enough, but dragging him through the press and making out like he’s a pedo seems *way* over the line.

EDIT – to note too, a lot of teachers are terrified of this kind of thing. Mate’s brother is a teacher at a high school, was probably in his mid-late 20s at the time this happened. The school was some way away but me and my mate ran into him and his mates on a night out in our local town so we join them for a few beers. He spots two girls and suddenly goes white in the face. They’re pupils at his school – over 18 and in sixth form, but they’ve travelled to this town for some reason. Fair enough, it’s an OK night out compared to where the school is, but it really freaks him out. He’s a good looking bloke, and they start being flirtatious with him. We decided to try another pub but he’s having none of it. Immediately jumps in a taxi, asks his brother to take photos of him getting in the taxi in case he’s accused of anything. Poor bastard was terrified and it ruined his night out.

>In a statement to the college, included in the TRA ruling, Mr Green said: “All I remember is being in my friend’s car outside (a) nightclub.

>”I remember feeling very intoxicated whilst he was chatting to two girls through the window, and I think he offered them a lift home.

>”All I remember from then is us suddenly being in a small field or park with my friend and the two girls and somehow four of us engaged in a sexual encounter,” he continued.

>He said due to his “drunken state”, he did not register who the two girls were – “only that I had a slight recognition of one of the girls”.

There is no mention of the girl involved being intoxicated, so does this mean that she technically sexually assaulted him? We’re told that people who are drunk cannot give informed consent.

>He said due to his “drunken state”, he did not register who the two girls were – “only that I had a slight recognition of one of the girls”.

>Mr Green continued: “When I woke up the following morning, it dawned on me why I may have recognised one of the girls.

>”I assumed she may have been an ex-sixth-form student at .

>”I have no recollection of seeing her at school in my teaching role. I had never spoken to her or taught her.”

>He said he did not notify the school as he had “no reason to believe she was a current student”.

Terrible liar lol

This seems stupid. He didn’t set out to seduce a student. He didn’t know she was a student. She didnt make a complaint about him. It happened ten years ago. This is a non-event, non-story that should not be being used to ruin a man’s life.

So an **adult** pupil **willingly** had sex with a teacher and then told the police???

That’s fucking awful, regardless of it being professional conduct or not.

A male PE teacher interested in women? Something odd there, surely.

If she was over 18 and the sex was fully consensual there’s no crime

This guy has clearly been seriously sexually assaulted, the equivalent of rape. Listen to his statement:

> “I remember feeling very intoxicated whilst he was chatting to two girls through the window, and I think he offered them a lift home.
>
>”All I remember from then is us suddenly being in a small field or park with my friend and the two girls and somehow four of us engaged in a sexual encounter,” he continued.
>
>He said due to his “drunken state”, he did not register who the two girls were – “only that I had a slight recognition of one of the girls”.

Imagine reversing the genders here – if a young man had taken advantage of a woman who was too drunk to recognise him or remember what was going on, I’m pretty sure we’d all be saying she couldn’t consent and it’s rape. So why doesn’t that apply here?

Essentially the guy is being fired and banned from his job for being raped. Which is insane.

wait, she was 18+, not one of his pupils, and he had no reason to suspect she was/had been a student?

this is basically accusing him of being guilty of not being psychic.

also, it sounds very much like he was drunk, she was not…how can he have consented in that state of mind?