Martin Lewis’s charity warns Starmer’s PIP disability cuts will be ‘catastrophic’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/martin-lewis-pip-changes-claims-b2763957.html
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Martin Lewis’s charity warns Starmer’s PIP disability cuts will be ‘catastrophic’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/martin-lewis-pip-changes-claims-b2763957.html
Posted by drleebot
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I have a long term heart condition that took me away from a professional career, and am still set to lose PIP under the new rules because the interpretation of the rules by the assessors is jaded and underhanded.
It’s a horrible policy designed to punish people. Why not ask NatWest for their 10bn owed instead of asking the ill to go without? Red tories for red austerity.
It’s easy to promote spending other people’s money. Maybe he should say who and how he would pay for more spending.
It is an odd move from the government. Simply removing benefits does not make one fit for work. Most people work if they can.
Those who take advantage are in the minority. Is that really worth the increased costs that poverty bring and an increased homelessness problem.
Benefit money works its way back into the economy to be taxed again quickly. It’s not like it goes into vast savings accounts in which it becomes economically inactive unlike tax breaks for you know who .
Since when has that ever stopped the goverment. Don’t to pay them if they all kill themselves.
Rich folk who target society’s most vulnerable and desperate are truly vile humans. I don’t believe in an afterlife but if I did I would sleep happy knowing they would burn in hell.
People with like me with Asperger’s with get pip take. Off them.
Sorry Martin, but funding hotel rooms for all those poor women and children who have just turned up on a dinghy is far more important than those silly disabled people.
Hopefully with Martin Lewis on board more of the common folk will get it into their head that PIP cuts are not a good thing.
It’s disgusting and disappointing to see certain sections of reddit cheering it on. It will be hugely damaging and put so many disabled people into poverty.
I feel like if it wasn’t for tiktok showing people how to make themselves appear more disabled to the DWP/assesors or how to say to DWP/assesors that your child is more disabled and that getting picked up by the red tops has screwed it up a bit and caused more scrutiny on who is claiming and the “cuts/reform” is a reaction to them, as this sub has had a few posts about those articles (refuse to call them stories or news because they aren’t).
I also want to be clear I’m not punching down on those who get awarded PIP as those tiktoks probably saved HMG money instead of those people having to take their claims to tribunal for them to be awarded anyway, and have some very close friends who wouldn’t be able to work without their PIP and wouldn’t have lives without it but it’s because they got picked up by the red top shitrags and this Labour government being very reactionary instead of taking time to properly assess the needed reforms and coming out with measured responses.
Martin is correct. The obvious effects of taking all support away from 87% of the people on standard awards are bad, but then you start adding in the effect on homelessness, the demand for council services, the demand on mental health services and the impact on carers and catastrophic is the correct term.
The biggest group it will affect are people in their 60s with musculoskeletal problems. Not the workshy but the workworn. People who have worked hard and paid tax all their lives and now their body is letting them down, the government seem keen to kick them whilst they are down too.
I understand the winter fuel allowance cuts, I understand the private school taxes, I understand the majority of labours decisions so far and I think they are doing a good job. But this one I don’t understand and can’t agree with.
One of the most troubling things about these cuts is that they weren’t the result of a careful review of the welfare budget or a thoughtful approach to saving. The figure was chosen purely to restore the Chancellor’s £10 billion headroom from the autumn budget, an arbitrary target with no meaningful justification.
Its not just pip, they are means testing the main out of work sickness benefit so no matter your health, money stops after 12 months if your house doesn’t qualify for means tested universal credit.
If your cancer recovery takes longer, it does not matter, the money ends
The government needs to either take funding from pensioners or the disabled. They’ve already tried one and it went terribly.
Not kool aid. https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/most-at-risk-pip-health-conditions-revealed
I don’t get why people on PIP aren’t more annoyed that the available money is being spread so widely. Any reform which tightens up the funds to those most in need should be supported rather than instantly dismissed as evil.
3.7 million people on PIP is insane. That is literally 10% of the workforce.
Don’t worry he needs the money to fight another war in the middle east.
I work on a crisis line, we talk to disabled people on benefits all the time (I’m also a disabled person on PIP btw! Just in a much luckier position due to a good family). The absolute horror stories I’ve heard by people who are supposedly ‘well enough’ and getting ‘all the support they need’ is horrific. Not people who have slipped through the cracks, people who have done everything possible to get government care and assistance. It’s so common. I can’t view these cuts as anything other than a cull on the disabled population. The government does not care.
Meh.. you might want to look into the absurd rise in disability benefits.
If the government for the in work benefit bill back to 2019 levels they would save £40billion.
They are taking about saving £5billion.
It’s completely out of control.
Yet got millions to help israel blow some things up…
Now lets see if this will be as successful as the campaign on the WFA. I hope so but I suspect not.
How much are they hoping to save with these cuts to PIP? I can only see it costing more in other ways as people will no longer be able to work and won’t be able to afford mobility, people will have worse outcomes putting more pressure on the NHS. There’s going to be much less money flowing through the economy too. It could massively back fire as more and more cases get sent to court and approved and backdated, racking HMRC huge legal fees. This could very easily cost them more than it will save while actually hurting and killing people.
When my wife applied due to a recent long term illness diagnosis making her house bound it was absolute hell fighting them, the assessor lied on every part of her assessment. Nothing on their assessment corresponded to her medical records from Kings College London from the specialist consultant who diagnosed her. The appeal was rejected as well. It took 18 months to go to court and when it went to court the whole lot got backdated anyway and granted for review in 7 years, which is next year.
This money isn’t a luxury extra like the media makes out, it goes on the things she needs for her disability, it’s spent on the equipment we need when she can leave the house, medical equipment that can’t be obtained on the NHS, we got into huge debt making adaptations to the house while waiting for PIP too and it has to be maintained then some pays towards our van we need to get to all the various appointments on a regular basis. Being disabled is mentally extremely tough too, so to keep her sane from being mostly housebound we do have a little more tech than the average person it’s not a luxury to her it’s an absolute necessity. We don’t drink, we don’t smoke, we don’t go on holidays and I work full time.
If the assessment goes all messed up like it did last time by increasing the threshold, what on earth will she score next time when the previous assessment was all zeros? If that extra life line stops while we have to fight them again things will get very bad, very quickly. She will be back to going without the things she absolutely needs. Before she had her PIP she was far more reliant on the hospital, far more reliant on her GP, far more reliant on the mental health service. We had to have far more regular visits from the community nursing team. PIP allows her to be far more independent and less reliant on our stretched healthcare system. Her PIP absolutely saves far more money than it costs.
All these people claiming to be Austitic won’t be able to claim their free car, the horror
Martin Lewis thinks any cut anywhere is ‘catastrophic’ – I’ve never seen him take a balanced view – that some things might be worth cutting, others not. It’s always just ‘cuts bad’.
I think that’s the point. They want us to die. Just like when they culled thousands of us over the past 15 years.
I remember PIP coming in. Was working in and around the benefits system at the time.
Seemed cruel even then with the new rules compared to Incapacity Benefit which it replaced.
It pisses me off that they’re doing the same thing again. Rather than dedicate resources to investigating the fraudulent claims, they will just do a sweeping attack and hurt the genuinely vulnerable.
Same thing happens with other benefit fraud –
single mother doing a few hours cleaning for cash in hand. Quick and easy win for the fraud team.
Sophisticated, multi-layered racket going back years and involving multiple people. Too much like hard work.
When you look at this alongside a concerted effort to denote certain mental health and neurological conditions as “strengths not disabilities” it becomes quite sinister.