Might as well we have so much spare cash to splash clearly
denyer-no1-fan on
Key detail: 3.5% in defence and 1.5% in related activity, like infrastructure and cybersecurity.
Dashmundo on
Madness. We have creaking public services that are starved of funding, and instead of prioritising that, we’re being roped into fighting wars for a mad US President and a genocidal Israeli Govt. If our govt had half a spine it would challenge this narrative, but defense spending is Good Headlines so it’s not in their interest. What a horror show.
WGSMA on
Easy to do when Trump and his MAGA loons will be out of office by 2028 lol
Ninereedss on
Good. Too many people ignorant to what we are hurtling towards will complain about this still.
rpwrex on
Can’t wait to hear what vital services this money is going to come from.
00DEADBEEF on
How many disabled people’s livelihoods do we need to sacrifice to pay for it? Or maybe we can regulate and tax weed and target the less vulnerable instead? No? Too sensible?
Snark aside, this is a rise to 3.5% in defence spending + 1.5% in other related areas which we probably already meet.
JJ4662 on
Supply and demand. If they all stop buying, the manufacturers will have to reduce the cost.
RoyalJacko on
Look at that date. I don’t see 3.5% GDP in defence happening; some countries in NATO are not even at 2%. The reason why it’s 2035 is that Trump won’t be in office then.
londons_explorer on
5% of GDP of NATO’s 32 member states is over 972 million people.
Thats a *lot* of military spending… Prepare for world war 3…
sober_disposition on
Reading about the cycles of war-peace-complacency-catastrophe that have occurred over and over again throughout history, it seems like anything else would be naive or even reckless.
I feel like the states that potentially have the power to militarily defeat a complacent NATO aren’t the kinds of powers we want having the final say in world affairs.
Spare-grylls on
Said we needed to do this months ago and got laughed at.
Chat_GDP on
Maybe it would be cheaper not to bomb nuclear facilities in foreign countries?
cmfarsight on
You mean a load of politicians agreed to do something that they won’t be around to actually do. Very easy to make promises you won’t be around to inact.
dajvebekinus on
We’ll probably need to add another percent to cover the immigration costs that out our destabilisation of countries through conflict will inevitably cause
hebrewimpeccable on
Excellent news. Hopefully this will guarantee in the short-term a sizeable fleet of Tempest fighters, a sufficiently sized batch of Type 83s, and a boosting of Army numbers again. In the longer term, one would hope it helps push an argument for a domestic MBT project and a replacement or upgrade to Merlin and Wildcat
xParesh on
Id like to see other sectors budgets being ringfencesd exactly like this – NHS, pensions, education, you name it.
If GDP rises then departments get more. If GDP drops then departments need to cut their cloth accordingly.
TheGreekScorpion on
As many have said:
Always enough money for war, never enough for the poor
Everyone is sitting up straight in their chairs and paying attention.
_Hello_Hi_Hey_ on
USA doesn’t even spend 5%, yet asking everyone to put in this much
Nooms88 on
Nobody wants war, but the best way to deter a rabid dog like putin is a massive fuck off stick.
The USA has been that stick before, but it’s no longer reliable as a partner. I understand their are also plans to move most new hardware purchases to more reliable sources like internal investment or closer allies
Revilo1359 on
A lot of people here don’t seem to know that a huge boost in defence spending over a long period of time (10 years) is actually great news for the country. It will grow the economy, create a lot of jobs and increase productivity. We could also see more outside investment. Though we’re already second to the us and probably won’t surpass them.
Of course it is important that the money is used to build and buy in Britain, not abroad.
On another level if we make the military more attractive to young people(which we will with such a big budget) we can reduce massively the unemployment problem among young people in some areas. Train them in a specific trade and when they leave they can rejoin civilian life as a mechanic or electrician etc.
All in all it’s actually good news. Though people who do not think much will stop at the number and use the old “We should first pay for the health service” argument. Which not only doesn’t work because it disregards the dangerous world we live in but it also doesn’t take into account just how revitalizing such an investment can be.
As a side note, the health and social care budget is 1/5th of government total expenditure. So, no need to worry about it as it won’t be cut anytime soon.
jack5624 on
This is weird to me, surely the threat is now and not in 10 years?
In 10 years time we could be living in a whole different world.
OwlsParliament on
As long as its actual defence of our allies and not “supporting a genocidal regime in the middle east” spending
No-Source-9920 on
They all bashed Trump and mocked him and now they are following his directive lol
Bar50cal on
Hello from Ireland, we went from 0.34% to spending 1.8% in 2025 and are looking to get jets and air defence systems and now you make it 5%!!!!
Stop moving the fucking goal posts!!!!!
/s
supersunsetman on
Don’t worry about the homeless, failing economy and infrastructure, unprecedented lay offs.
Keep funding share holders of bae etc
Comfortable_Rip_3842 on
The m4 in Newport needs a relief road. Tanks aren’t getting anywhere fast through there
IAmJustShadow on
Great, next 10%. The war machine demands it and so do the war machines bots on Reddit.
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Might as well we have so much spare cash to splash clearly
Key detail: 3.5% in defence and 1.5% in related activity, like infrastructure and cybersecurity.
Madness. We have creaking public services that are starved of funding, and instead of prioritising that, we’re being roped into fighting wars for a mad US President and a genocidal Israeli Govt. If our govt had half a spine it would challenge this narrative, but defense spending is Good Headlines so it’s not in their interest. What a horror show.
Easy to do when Trump and his MAGA loons will be out of office by 2028 lol
Good. Too many people ignorant to what we are hurtling towards will complain about this still.
Can’t wait to hear what vital services this money is going to come from.
How many disabled people’s livelihoods do we need to sacrifice to pay for it? Or maybe we can regulate and tax weed and target the less vulnerable instead? No? Too sensible?
Snark aside, this is a rise to 3.5% in defence spending + 1.5% in other related areas which we probably already meet.
Supply and demand. If they all stop buying, the manufacturers will have to reduce the cost.
Look at that date. I don’t see 3.5% GDP in defence happening; some countries in NATO are not even at 2%. The reason why it’s 2035 is that Trump won’t be in office then.
5% of GDP of NATO’s 32 member states is over 972 million people.
Thats a *lot* of military spending… Prepare for world war 3…
Reading about the cycles of war-peace-complacency-catastrophe that have occurred over and over again throughout history, it seems like anything else would be naive or even reckless.
I feel like the states that potentially have the power to militarily defeat a complacent NATO aren’t the kinds of powers we want having the final say in world affairs.
Said we needed to do this months ago and got laughed at.
Maybe it would be cheaper not to bomb nuclear facilities in foreign countries?
You mean a load of politicians agreed to do something that they won’t be around to actually do. Very easy to make promises you won’t be around to inact.
We’ll probably need to add another percent to cover the immigration costs that out our destabilisation of countries through conflict will inevitably cause
Excellent news. Hopefully this will guarantee in the short-term a sizeable fleet of Tempest fighters, a sufficiently sized batch of Type 83s, and a boosting of Army numbers again. In the longer term, one would hope it helps push an argument for a domestic MBT project and a replacement or upgrade to Merlin and Wildcat
Id like to see other sectors budgets being ringfencesd exactly like this – NHS, pensions, education, you name it.
If GDP rises then departments get more. If GDP drops then departments need to cut their cloth accordingly.
As many have said:
Always enough money for war, never enough for the poor
In other news [Spain got a deal to be excluded from the 5% target](https://www.thecanadianpressnews.ca/world/spain-reaches-deal-with-nato-ahead-of-summit-to-be-excluded-from-5-defense-spending/article_2c9a370c-4dcf-5ddb-a0b6-765116f29bb2.html) – it currently spends less than 1.3%.
Everyone is sitting up straight in their chairs and paying attention.
USA doesn’t even spend 5%, yet asking everyone to put in this much
Nobody wants war, but the best way to deter a rabid dog like putin is a massive fuck off stick.
The USA has been that stick before, but it’s no longer reliable as a partner. I understand their are also plans to move most new hardware purchases to more reliable sources like internal investment or closer allies
A lot of people here don’t seem to know that a huge boost in defence spending over a long period of time (10 years) is actually great news for the country. It will grow the economy, create a lot of jobs and increase productivity. We could also see more outside investment. Though we’re already second to the us and probably won’t surpass them.
Of course it is important that the money is used to build and buy in Britain, not abroad.
On another level if we make the military more attractive to young people(which we will with such a big budget) we can reduce massively the unemployment problem among young people in some areas. Train them in a specific trade and when they leave they can rejoin civilian life as a mechanic or electrician etc.
All in all it’s actually good news. Though people who do not think much will stop at the number and use the old “We should first pay for the health service” argument. Which not only doesn’t work because it disregards the dangerous world we live in but it also doesn’t take into account just how revitalizing such an investment can be.
As a side note, the health and social care budget is 1/5th of government total expenditure. So, no need to worry about it as it won’t be cut anytime soon.
This is weird to me, surely the threat is now and not in 10 years?
In 10 years time we could be living in a whole different world.
As long as its actual defence of our allies and not “supporting a genocidal regime in the middle east” spending
They all bashed Trump and mocked him and now they are following his directive lol
Hello from Ireland, we went from 0.34% to spending 1.8% in 2025 and are looking to get jets and air defence systems and now you make it 5%!!!!
Stop moving the fucking goal posts!!!!!
/s
Don’t worry about the homeless, failing economy and infrastructure, unprecedented lay offs.
Keep funding share holders of bae etc
The m4 in Newport needs a relief road. Tanks aren’t getting anywhere fast through there
Great, next 10%. The war machine demands it and so do the war machines bots on Reddit.
Also zero carbon use by then.
And a balanced budget.
And a funding for education.
And flying pig based transportation…