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  1. CaptCynicalPants on

    Ok, now do what people are actually earning. Only 1.1% of hourly workers are actually being paid the minimum wage.

  2. The U.S. doesn‘t rank at the bottom of *all OECD* countries, as some OECD countries, for example Austria, do not have a minimum wage set by law.

  3. BrettHullsBurner on

    Couldn’t that just mean that our average workers are making way more?

    Any sort of “median income by country” will show you the US is doing just fine. Even looking at median equivalent disposable income ([source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income)) shows that when you take everything into account, the US is doing far better than any other large country.

  4. This is just a graph that shows that the United States no longer really has a federal minimum wage which it very much does not. If you exclude tipped workers and people being paid under the table significantly less than 1% of workers make federal minimum.

  5. I assume this is the federal minimum wage of $7.25/hour, which hasn’t been updated in a long time and hence has lost a lot to inflation (hence the downward trend in the red line in the graph).

    However, most US states (iirc over 30 of them) have state-level minimum wages substantially above the federal one, including many of the most populous states (e.g. California $16.5, Florida $14, New York $16.5, Illinois $15, Ohio $10.7, Michigan $12.5). So while there are still many states where the minimum wage is still $7.25, a big chunk of the population lives in a state where it’s higher than that.

  6. I’m gonna be honest, while the US minimal wage is clearly a joke this metric in itself is crap.

    Where I live for instance, while the minimum wage sort of increased regularly to keep up proportionnally with the cost of living, most of the other wages didn’t follow the same trend.

    Jobs that used to pay 2 to 3 times the minimal wage in the 90s now barely pays 20% more…

    The result is a minimum wage now at 67% of the median income but only because everyone else got poorer, not because minimal wage situation improved.

  7. HenFruitEater on

    Who cares what minimum wage is? The market bottom is what sets minimum wage. Nobody gets paid minimum wage outside of highschool jobs or mentally handicapped jobs.

  8. Minimum wage tells nothing about the economy or the quality of wages.

    It can even be counter productive: set it too high and you are pushing many jobs to the black market. It will also lower higher skilled job’s wages because companies will turn less profitable or even unprofitable. If you also don’t move up income tax brackets, you got yourself a nice way of taxing more and being a popular politician (as well as damn populistic).

  9. High ratio is not necessarily a sign of prosperity. The two top countries with highest ratios are Costa Rica and Colombia.

  10. AutisticProf on

    How does a country operate with the minimum wage at 90% of median wage? That means 50% of workers make within a 10% band.

    I’m for raising the US minimum wage, but this is one point where the extremes on either end seem unwise.

  11. This chart is useless if only a few % of people get paid a minimal wage. Median wage shows that USA is ahead of most OECD countries.

  12. lazyoldsailor on

    Share of wage and salary workers in the United States paid hourly rates at or below the prevailing federal minimum wage from 1979 to 2023

    https://preview.redd.it/negn3g1adh9f1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eec9a6234f68e1805080f421b4b31e35b676acff

    [https://www.statista.com/statistics/188206/share-of-workers-paid-hourly-rates-at-or-below-minimum-wage-since-1979/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/188206/share-of-workers-paid-hourly-rates-at-or-below-minimum-wage-since-1979/)

  13. What happened between 2009ish and 2012ish that made the US ratio go up?

    Or is that the effect of the 2008 economic troubles?

  14. TheModelMaker on

    What matters more is the equilibrium wage that’s set be the free market, not the mandatory minimum.

    I’m sure the USA is much higher than almost all OECD countries using that metric.

  15. Traditional-Storm-62 on

    meanwhile Russia:

    __________________________

    (our minimum wage is calculated as % of median to begin with)

  16. vanishing_grad on

    Minimum wage in the US is not real for all intents and purposes. Something like 1% of people actually make minimum wage or below and the vast majority of these are tipped servers etc

  17. Pikeman212a6c on

    Many states and even cities have their own higher minimum wage.

    This is essentially deeply conservative states punishing their poor for some reason.

  18. federal minimum wage law was one of the 20th century’s most nonsensical policy choices

  19. SnoWhiteFiRed on

    According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, 82,000 workers are paid minimum wage. That’s less than 1% of the US work force. In 1979, that percent was over 13%. The truth is that a minimum wage is largely irrelevant in a market that is competitive and needs labor. Having a minimum wage that is too high is more damaging to an economy than a minimum wage that is “too low”.

  20. Fit_Employment_2944 on

    The only conclusion one should draw from this is that the US is wealthy enough that few people make the minimum wage.

  21. shumpitostick on

    That’s because in the US the actual minimum wage is set by states, the federal minimum wage is low in order to allow states to set minimum wages that match their conditions

  22. Is this federal minimum wage? Because the US is big and a single minimum wage is impractical. Many states have $15 an hour which is double federal. But too many jobs would be killed if you implemented it in other states.

  23. This is dumb.

    The US federal wage is not the only minimum wage in the US so unless they’ve weighted the ratio at a state level and worked out the average.

  24. BelieveNoOne2024 on

    Correct me if I am interpreting this wrong, but isn’t this what you want for the US??…an incentive to get a higher education or trade to lift up from “minimum wage”. The closer the gap, the less incentive to grow. Did they post how they also got their data for making the relationships?