Social media has led to many young girls feeling depressed and insecure about their appearance, as they compare themselves to their favorite tiktok or instagram stars who often have undergone plastic surgery and use filters. These unrealistic beauty standards are negatively affecting the younger generations confidence.
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Article suggests that following repairs, there are now large screens which mean folk from the inside can see in, which is putting women off swimming.
What it’s missing is the women are being put off by pervy men looking in through the windows. Think it’s safe to assume the women aren’t concerned about the pigeons.
Think it’s a reasonable request and interesting the ire in the comments on here is directed at the women who would like to swim without men perving on them from outside the building, and not the men perving on them from outside the building.
Exact_Setting9562 on
I used to go to a pool in Ellesmere Port to swim.
There was a ladies only hour straight after so I had to get out so they could come in.
What would happen is that a lot of them would get there early so start their swimming when it was open to all anyway. So was the women’s hour really needed?
I’ve walked past WK baths lots of times with the dog – I’ve never seen anyone looking in the windows.
tempy1256 on
There’s a world of difference between other pool users seeing each other and blokes leering in from the fucking road outside
Should frost the glass or something, simple fix fs
StrangerOld4968 on
A lot of comments missing the point here. Ultimately, young women don’t want to be perved over by creepy dudes on the street. Which is fair enough.
It’s clearly a big enough problem seeing that women don’t want to go there.
Marble-Boy on
It’s the Wirral…
I reckon that it’s more a case of people walking past and going.. *”huh… there’s a young woman in a swimming outfit… you don’t see that every day…”*
It’s like when you see someone with one eye and you can’t help looking at it.
If they’re wanking on the windows then it’s entirely justified.
This shouldn’t have happened and it’s telling it did. Any decent architect would have known about this issue, so what happened? Is this yet another case of a thick school-of-lifer council member having the power and arrogance to override the experts? Or did someone not want to pay to hire decent architects/designers?
Everything in the UK–roads, building access, lighting, ventilation, and on and on–is shit because we allow people who have no idea what they’re doing to be in charge. In countries in the continent, experts must be involved at all stages.
MTCPodcast on
Not sure if the majority of men in the UK have nonce tendencies or whether this thread has been shared in a nonce group.
Give your heads a wobble.
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paranoid-imposter on
He didn’t say how many students came to him. The feelings of a few shouldn’t define the lives of everyone else.
KeyLog256 on
I’m familiar with this place – live on the Wirral and have a mate who grew up in West Kirby.
Even when we were kids/young teenagers in the 90s, you could see through the windows, even when passing in a car on the main road. They’re huge windows all down two sides of the pool.
I don’t remember it being an issue then.
The problem here is creepy men, but I’d ask are there *actually* creepy men just standing there staring in, or is this a hypothetical scenario?
AEGHJU233 on
I don’t know why so many people are desperate to blame the women or make this issue into a non-issue?
Oh sorry! I forgot the perpetrators weren’t muslim, or pakistanis. But if this issue involved asylum seekers, some of you would be banging on about protecting our women and children.
Rulweylan on
‘A campaign has been started to find a solution’.
I wonder how much money will be spent consulting on that when the caretakers could literally fix the problem tomorrow with a few rolls of adhesive frosted window film at a total cost of maybe £100.
ashisanandroid on
I swam in the Concourse a lot as a kid, I know it well.
Is there actually an issue now with men gathering and looking in? The article does not say this is actually happening.
ImpossibleAd436 on
When I was a kid, the large swimming pool in my area had windows. People could see in, people could see out. Nobody cared.
If someone was minded to watch others swimming, there was also a seating area available from upstairs, like a balcony looking over the pool. Primarily for people watching swimming events, but always open, even to people not using the pool. People would sit up there, nobody cared.
There’s nothing particularly private about swimming in a public pool. Some pools are completely open air. If you go to a waterpark there are usually more people out of the pools and able to see you than there are in the pools.
Nobody is naked, nobody is engaging in intimate or private activity. This kind of thing turns something innocent like going swimming into something weird, shameful and embarrassing. Why?
If it’s that big of a deal, maybe the pool operator can get some blinds for the windows, but I can’t really see what has changed over the years other than people looking for problems and reasons to be outraged or upset which simply did not exist when I was growing up.
deepspacetelemetry on
The complaint seems to be about the possibility of something happening, not any actual incidents of something happening.
Given its been there nearly 30 years you’d think if there was going to be a problem there would have been one.
Live-Cut-5991 on
Always the same, it’s the people perving that are at fault
ReefNixon on
Christ just frost the fucking window. How does this make it past a single complaint and into the paper?
Speeks1939 on
My first thought was, do they not swim at the beach or in rivers, lakes etc. Everyone can see them then.
Is there actually men leering at them through the glass or is it they are afraid that someone may do this? Also wont there be men in the pool area swimming, possibly looking already?
Happy_goth_pirate on
Don’t come at me and I know people shouldn’t HAVE to do it, but if people looking at you makes you uncomfortable and you want to swim, could you not wear a more coverage bathing suit? It’s an option at least.
Is there a difference between people outside looking at and people within looking at you or something?
IITommoII on
I work in a lot of different leisure centres around the uk, some have window treatments, some new builds try and place the windows in different places to restrict the view in but there are so many that just don’t have anything. I always thought it was abit weird but I guessed it’s generally just not something that’s complained about.
hazza987 on
Darwen leisure centre has had this issue for years. My partner tells stories of people watching her primary school swimming lessons through the windows while touching themselves. She went to a swim class a while ago at the same place and there were still men standing outside watching. She ended up just leaving instead of actually going in.
rockerfemmefantasy on
I live in Gateshead and there’s a leisure centre near me that has the same issue (Heworth) and there’s another in Hebburn that is right by the shopping car park where everyone can see in.
jang20jamiga25 on
> The leisure centre sits in the centre of Wirral town and features a gym, swimming pool, cafe, and other facilities.
Imagine if newspapers proofread.
pjenn001 on
Some kind cover on the glass upto a certain height that lets in light. Or a fence to keep people away from window. A hedge as a barrier to it make more natural. Movable partion that can be rolled out inside or outside.
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Social media has led to many young girls feeling depressed and insecure about their appearance, as they compare themselves to their favorite tiktok or instagram stars who often have undergone plastic surgery and use filters. These unrealistic beauty standards are negatively affecting the younger generations confidence.
Article suggests that following repairs, there are now large screens which mean folk from the inside can see in, which is putting women off swimming.
What it’s missing is the women are being put off by pervy men looking in through the windows. Think it’s safe to assume the women aren’t concerned about the pigeons.
Think it’s a reasonable request and interesting the ire in the comments on here is directed at the women who would like to swim without men perving on them from outside the building, and not the men perving on them from outside the building.
I used to go to a pool in Ellesmere Port to swim.
There was a ladies only hour straight after so I had to get out so they could come in.
What would happen is that a lot of them would get there early so start their swimming when it was open to all anyway. So was the women’s hour really needed?
I’ve walked past WK baths lots of times with the dog – I’ve never seen anyone looking in the windows.
There’s a world of difference between other pool users seeing each other and blokes leering in from the fucking road outside
Should frost the glass or something, simple fix fs
A lot of comments missing the point here. Ultimately, young women don’t want to be perved over by creepy dudes on the street. Which is fair enough.
It’s clearly a big enough problem seeing that women don’t want to go there.
It’s the Wirral…
I reckon that it’s more a case of people walking past and going.. *”huh… there’s a young woman in a swimming outfit… you don’t see that every day…”*
It’s like when you see someone with one eye and you can’t help looking at it.
If they’re wanking on the windows then it’s entirely justified.
Time to add “No perving” to the [sign](https://images.app.goo.gl/Z7752U2RyovECsjV7).
This shouldn’t have happened and it’s telling it did. Any decent architect would have known about this issue, so what happened? Is this yet another case of a thick school-of-lifer council member having the power and arrogance to override the experts? Or did someone not want to pay to hire decent architects/designers?
Everything in the UK–roads, building access, lighting, ventilation, and on and on–is shit because we allow people who have no idea what they’re doing to be in charge. In countries in the continent, experts must be involved at all stages.
Not sure if the majority of men in the UK have nonce tendencies or whether this thread has been shared in a nonce group.
Give your heads a wobble.
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He didn’t say how many students came to him. The feelings of a few shouldn’t define the lives of everyone else.
I’m familiar with this place – live on the Wirral and have a mate who grew up in West Kirby.
Even when we were kids/young teenagers in the 90s, you could see through the windows, even when passing in a car on the main road. They’re huge windows all down two sides of the pool.
I don’t remember it being an issue then.
The problem here is creepy men, but I’d ask are there *actually* creepy men just standing there staring in, or is this a hypothetical scenario?
I don’t know why so many people are desperate to blame the women or make this issue into a non-issue?
Oh sorry! I forgot the perpetrators weren’t muslim, or pakistanis. But if this issue involved asylum seekers, some of you would be banging on about protecting our women and children.
‘A campaign has been started to find a solution’.
I wonder how much money will be spent consulting on that when the caretakers could literally fix the problem tomorrow with a few rolls of adhesive frosted window film at a total cost of maybe £100.
I swam in the Concourse a lot as a kid, I know it well.
Is there actually an issue now with men gathering and looking in? The article does not say this is actually happening.
When I was a kid, the large swimming pool in my area had windows. People could see in, people could see out. Nobody cared.
If someone was minded to watch others swimming, there was also a seating area available from upstairs, like a balcony looking over the pool. Primarily for people watching swimming events, but always open, even to people not using the pool. People would sit up there, nobody cared.
There’s nothing particularly private about swimming in a public pool. Some pools are completely open air. If you go to a waterpark there are usually more people out of the pools and able to see you than there are in the pools.
Nobody is naked, nobody is engaging in intimate or private activity. This kind of thing turns something innocent like going swimming into something weird, shameful and embarrassing. Why?
If it’s that big of a deal, maybe the pool operator can get some blinds for the windows, but I can’t really see what has changed over the years other than people looking for problems and reasons to be outraged or upset which simply did not exist when I was growing up.
The complaint seems to be about the possibility of something happening, not any actual incidents of something happening.
Given its been there nearly 30 years you’d think if there was going to be a problem there would have been one.
Always the same, it’s the people perving that are at fault
Christ just frost the fucking window. How does this make it past a single complaint and into the paper?
My first thought was, do they not swim at the beach or in rivers, lakes etc. Everyone can see them then.
Is there actually men leering at them through the glass or is it they are afraid that someone may do this? Also wont there be men in the pool area swimming, possibly looking already?
Don’t come at me and I know people shouldn’t HAVE to do it, but if people looking at you makes you uncomfortable and you want to swim, could you not wear a more coverage bathing suit? It’s an option at least.
Is there a difference between people outside looking at and people within looking at you or something?
I work in a lot of different leisure centres around the uk, some have window treatments, some new builds try and place the windows in different places to restrict the view in but there are so many that just don’t have anything. I always thought it was abit weird but I guessed it’s generally just not something that’s complained about.
Darwen leisure centre has had this issue for years. My partner tells stories of people watching her primary school swimming lessons through the windows while touching themselves. She went to a swim class a while ago at the same place and there were still men standing outside watching. She ended up just leaving instead of actually going in.
I live in Gateshead and there’s a leisure centre near me that has the same issue (Heworth) and there’s another in Hebburn that is right by the shopping car park where everyone can see in.
> The leisure centre sits in the centre of Wirral town and features a gym, swimming pool, cafe, and other facilities.
Imagine if newspapers proofread.
Some kind cover on the glass upto a certain height that lets in light. Or a fence to keep people away from window. A hedge as a barrier to it make more natural. Movable partion that can be rolled out inside or outside.