Starmer said: “We’re only getting started, the chancellor **has led** on all these issues and we’re grateful to her for it.”
Interesting choice of tense, shouldn’t it be “is leading on”?
Alive-Turnip-3145 on
You may not agree with her politics but she is still human.
ScientistArtistic917 on
Reeves will be ok. It’s not like she’s disabled and facing financial ruin
VitrioPsych on
Pardon me for a moment; my tiny violin requires tuning for this occasion
Leading-Annual-4390 on
Looks like she hasn’t slept well. Hopefully up all night tarting up her CV
badgersruse on
Didn’t watch any of it, but maybe she has only just realised that she and Starmer have the same voice. I mean, it’s weird.
Historical_Cobbler on
The buck stops with her ultimately, she’s done a bad job and the rebellion this early into a parliamentary term demonstrates this.
Current_Case7806 on
The biggest travesty of this new parliament is that we voted for major change after 14 years of tory cuts, austerity and brexit – and this party seem obsessed with being more tory and sticking to stringent rules that hinder any progress.
NOTHING will happen with this stance. Either we cut benefits or we cut pensions or we cut services if we want to stick to borrowing rules that the right wing press have pressured her into. there is no way of stimulating growth or improving the country sticking to a tory plan that has stifled the country throughout history.
I would have more respect if she said “the public have spoken, you can have another say on the finances at the next election” and actually made real change. As it is, it looks more and more like an angry vote will get a reform government next time…and then we will see the death of the NHS and the end of the UK.
Only_Tip9560 on
Her days are numbered. Pretty clear that this fiasco is being pinned on her, rightly or wrongly
Intrepid_Solution194 on
I don’t think it’s good form to celebrate someone being stressed in their job to the point of tears.
Fact is she’s having to make difficult choices the likes of which very few people on here can empathise with.
Crazy-Condition-8446 on
Oh well, . She lied that she was an economist, and naturally couldn’t cut the mustard. Starmer will throw her under the bus to save his own skin.
SurlyPoe on
For some reason Labour refuse to sort out the right wing media and are letting them still dictate policy even when they have a massive majority.
Austerity was always just a con so the Tories could cut or steal everything, it only slows the economy and reduces the TAX take.
It is just not going to work. It time to face down the markets and tell them to f off.
Heavens_Vibe on
So that’s now 150,001 victims of Rachel Reeves’ catastrophic tenure?
As far as sympathy goes, she ranks at 150,001 for me in that list.
Psy_Kikk on
Two party system is facking bollocks. 14 years of useless toey government, where the centrists promise, and the right screw it over deliberately .. hs2 or ‘levelling up’, brexit…
Now we get more of the same, we know its either more taxes or cut disability. Centrist promise and the left screw it over deliberately.
We need proportional representation, and an end to first past the post. We have 4 political parties pretending to be 2, and it makes us stagnant.
baddymcbadface on
I hope all the people cheering this on don’t complain about the kind of people we end up with in politics. God forbid someone isn’t made of stone.
salamanderwolf on
It’s bad that she feels so under pressure that she’s breaking, but a large part of me really finds it hard to care.
Maybe if she hadn’t gone after the easy choice of targeting welfare. Maybe if she hadn’t gone after the most vulnerable in society, and tried something else. Maybe, if she had funded mental health care better, then I would find it easier to feel sorry for her.
But I don’t.
Dankamonius on
The issue was that they tried to sell it as reforming the welfare system but it was blatantly obvious it was only about saving X amount of money. They found the sweet spot where you can cut off the maximum amount of people without scrapping the whole thing but ofc it then blew up in their face.
I came across this notion a while ago and it’s very true. Benefits are not for the poor. They are benefits for the rich. Here’s some examples why:
1. Corporations (who already pay little to no tax) pay shit wages which causes people to need state benefits as top ups. So this means the corporations make even more profits. Solution? Make them pay wages which don’t need state benefits top ups.
2. Landlords keep upping rents which means housing benefits and benefits need to go up to match the rent increases. So the state benefits are going directly into landlords pockets to increase their quality of life and their profits.
3. Electric and gas companies who are making record profits each year are still increasing prices which means people have less money and can’t afford to live – the state have to pay up to help. That money is funding the companies record profits.
4. Grocery store prices are rising although they are also seeing record profits. Same result applies as No3.
More than a decade of austerity has left us to a very sick, very depressed nation which does what? Cha ching – it costs the taxpayer.
Don’t tell me a wealth tax on these benefit scrounging billionaire corporations won’t work. But MORE austerity on the most vulnerable will. Their propaganda machine has well and truly brainwashed you.
Most state benefits money goes directly to the most rich. But they lie you to think the most vulnerable have this money.
Solution to not tax the rich but bring benefit costs down?
1. Make corporations pay decent living standard wages and people won’t need top ups (half the people on UC also are in work) if you’re working you should not need benefit top ups.
2. Rent caps = lower housing benefit payments needed
3. Nationalise energy and gas and the payments will drop drastically for the everyday person which reduces the cost of living.
3. Put a cap on grocery companies profits and reduce the cost of living.
WickerSnicker7 on
The Iron Chancellor.
Wait until there’s a real crisis, the Cabinet will be on sick leave for their mental health.
Mr_XcX on
If she has personal situation then it bad conduct having her on front bench. Starmer forcing her to be there to defend the fiasco.
I think her position untenable on performance level as she made so many mistakes.
Kemi had such ammunition. Farage and Reform gleeful.
phangtom on
Don’t worry guys. Surely, the wealth from the rich will trickle down to the poor any minute now.
uwatfordm8 on
Can’t wait for Reform to win because Rachel Reeves tried to stop the massive increase in people on disability, only for Reform to completely gut it and undo any of the other good moves Labour are making….
Some people really think they can just have everything they want and the economy will be fine
SquashyDisco on
The state of these comments demonstrates how polarised we are as a nation.
How can everyone continue to think the welfare bill is sustainable? Just because you’re disabled doesn’t mean you cannot work.
I know this, because I am legally disabled but capable.
LordofSuns on
This country is a fucking dumpster fire and nobody is capable of extinguishing it.
ShondaVanda on
It’s so weird to see people cheering this on.
She has a hard job to do and it’s a thankless job.
She didn’t vote in 14 years of Tory governments, thats who people should be bitching at, she is literally just trying to clear up the mess the electorate made with their shitty choices.
Miasmata on
Lots of people disagree with her methods but I never see anyone coming up with any bright ideas that would actually work and make everyone happy. The country is financially fucked and something somehow has to be done.
rationalplan10 on
Gilts are rising sharply and the pound is slipping. We are heading to a full fiscal crisis. The amount of people being approved per year for pip for anxiety, ADHD, obesity, and autism have tripled and in some cases quadrupled since 2019. We can’t afford this. The number of people under 35 claiming pip has increased 70% in the last 40 years. We can’t afford to. It’s been a cackhanded reform.
Unless we get spending and borrowing under control we are stuck in a doom loop of rising taxes and deficits crushing growth.
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Starmer said: “We’re only getting started, the chancellor **has led** on all these issues and we’re grateful to her for it.”
Interesting choice of tense, shouldn’t it be “is leading on”?
You may not agree with her politics but she is still human.
Reeves will be ok. It’s not like she’s disabled and facing financial ruin
Pardon me for a moment; my tiny violin requires tuning for this occasion
Looks like she hasn’t slept well. Hopefully up all night tarting up her CV
Didn’t watch any of it, but maybe she has only just realised that she and Starmer have the same voice. I mean, it’s weird.
The buck stops with her ultimately, she’s done a bad job and the rebellion this early into a parliamentary term demonstrates this.
The biggest travesty of this new parliament is that we voted for major change after 14 years of tory cuts, austerity and brexit – and this party seem obsessed with being more tory and sticking to stringent rules that hinder any progress.
NOTHING will happen with this stance. Either we cut benefits or we cut pensions or we cut services if we want to stick to borrowing rules that the right wing press have pressured her into. there is no way of stimulating growth or improving the country sticking to a tory plan that has stifled the country throughout history.
I would have more respect if she said “the public have spoken, you can have another say on the finances at the next election” and actually made real change. As it is, it looks more and more like an angry vote will get a reform government next time…and then we will see the death of the NHS and the end of the UK.
Her days are numbered. Pretty clear that this fiasco is being pinned on her, rightly or wrongly
I don’t think it’s good form to celebrate someone being stressed in their job to the point of tears.
Fact is she’s having to make difficult choices the likes of which very few people on here can empathise with.
Oh well, . She lied that she was an economist, and naturally couldn’t cut the mustard. Starmer will throw her under the bus to save his own skin.
For some reason Labour refuse to sort out the right wing media and are letting them still dictate policy even when they have a massive majority.
Austerity was always just a con so the Tories could cut or steal everything, it only slows the economy and reduces the TAX take.
It is just not going to work. It time to face down the markets and tell them to f off.
So that’s now 150,001 victims of Rachel Reeves’ catastrophic tenure?
As far as sympathy goes, she ranks at 150,001 for me in that list.
Two party system is facking bollocks. 14 years of useless toey government, where the centrists promise, and the right screw it over deliberately .. hs2 or ‘levelling up’, brexit…
Now we get more of the same, we know its either more taxes or cut disability. Centrist promise and the left screw it over deliberately.
We need proportional representation, and an end to first past the post. We have 4 political parties pretending to be 2, and it makes us stagnant.
I hope all the people cheering this on don’t complain about the kind of people we end up with in politics. God forbid someone isn’t made of stone.
It’s bad that she feels so under pressure that she’s breaking, but a large part of me really finds it hard to care.
Maybe if she hadn’t gone after the easy choice of targeting welfare. Maybe if she hadn’t gone after the most vulnerable in society, and tried something else. Maybe, if she had funded mental health care better, then I would find it easier to feel sorry for her.
But I don’t.
The issue was that they tried to sell it as reforming the welfare system but it was blatantly obvious it was only about saving X amount of money. They found the sweet spot where you can cut off the maximum amount of people without scrapping the whole thing but ofc it then blew up in their face.
Ohhhh it’s getting messy in the house
[“She had an altercation with Speaker Lindsay [Hoyle] just before PMQs. They had a row. I think he ended up apologising to her”](https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1940385157288181990)
I came across this notion a while ago and it’s very true. Benefits are not for the poor. They are benefits for the rich. Here’s some examples why:
1. Corporations (who already pay little to no tax) pay shit wages which causes people to need state benefits as top ups. So this means the corporations make even more profits. Solution? Make them pay wages which don’t need state benefits top ups.
2. Landlords keep upping rents which means housing benefits and benefits need to go up to match the rent increases. So the state benefits are going directly into landlords pockets to increase their quality of life and their profits.
3. Electric and gas companies who are making record profits each year are still increasing prices which means people have less money and can’t afford to live – the state have to pay up to help. That money is funding the companies record profits.
4. Grocery store prices are rising although they are also seeing record profits. Same result applies as No3.
More than a decade of austerity has left us to a very sick, very depressed nation which does what? Cha ching – it costs the taxpayer.
Don’t tell me a wealth tax on these benefit scrounging billionaire corporations won’t work. But MORE austerity on the most vulnerable will. Their propaganda machine has well and truly brainwashed you.
Most state benefits money goes directly to the most rich. But they lie you to think the most vulnerable have this money.
Solution to not tax the rich but bring benefit costs down?
1. Make corporations pay decent living standard wages and people won’t need top ups (half the people on UC also are in work) if you’re working you should not need benefit top ups.
2. Rent caps = lower housing benefit payments needed
3. Nationalise energy and gas and the payments will drop drastically for the everyday person which reduces the cost of living.
3. Put a cap on grocery companies profits and reduce the cost of living.
The Iron Chancellor.
Wait until there’s a real crisis, the Cabinet will be on sick leave for their mental health.
If she has personal situation then it bad conduct having her on front bench. Starmer forcing her to be there to defend the fiasco.
I think her position untenable on performance level as she made so many mistakes.
Kemi had such ammunition. Farage and Reform gleeful.
Don’t worry guys. Surely, the wealth from the rich will trickle down to the poor any minute now.
Can’t wait for Reform to win because Rachel Reeves tried to stop the massive increase in people on disability, only for Reform to completely gut it and undo any of the other good moves Labour are making….
Some people really think they can just have everything they want and the economy will be fine
The state of these comments demonstrates how polarised we are as a nation.
How can everyone continue to think the welfare bill is sustainable? Just because you’re disabled doesn’t mean you cannot work.
I know this, because I am legally disabled but capable.
This country is a fucking dumpster fire and nobody is capable of extinguishing it.
It’s so weird to see people cheering this on.
She has a hard job to do and it’s a thankless job.
She didn’t vote in 14 years of Tory governments, thats who people should be bitching at, she is literally just trying to clear up the mess the electorate made with their shitty choices.
Lots of people disagree with her methods but I never see anyone coming up with any bright ideas that would actually work and make everyone happy. The country is financially fucked and something somehow has to be done.
Gilts are rising sharply and the pound is slipping. We are heading to a full fiscal crisis. The amount of people being approved per year for pip for anxiety, ADHD, obesity, and autism have tripled and in some cases quadrupled since 2019. We can’t afford this. The number of people under 35 claiming pip has increased 70% in the last 40 years. We can’t afford to. It’s been a cackhanded reform.
Unless we get spending and borrowing under control we are stuck in a doom loop of rising taxes and deficits crushing growth.