Ban all benefits for foreign nationals. If you want to come here to work and contribute we should roll out the red carpet, handing out free houses and money to anyone and everyone is part of why we’re so broke as a country.
Intrepid_Solution194 on
I’m in favour of some nuance on this. Foreigners who have stuck their neck out for us should be entitled to benefits.
I’m thinking the likes of Ghurkas or Afghanistan’s translators etc.
Also if they pay a certain about in taxes then certain benefits entitlement doesn’t seem unreasonable.
AlpineJ0e on
That can’t be legal under equality legislation and would be overruled immediately, surely.
Stupid policy wide open to challenge, which I suspect is the point because Tories prefer loudly fighting courts than fixing problems – it’s their speciality when they are struggling to stay relevant.
Just expand the list of people included in the _No Recourse to Public Funds_ category if you’re hell-bent on it, rather than creating a two-tier and more complicated disability benefits system that specifically excludes people on the basis of their background.
Jeq0 on
I agree with this, and I’m a foreigner in this county myself.
aditya10011001 on
I’m not sure what the policy is around disability benefits specifically for foreigners, but every work visa/BRP/whatever replaced these two is issued with the words “no recourse to public funds”. No one’s getting houses or JSA.
Alive-Turnip-3145 on
People on work and family visa’s don’t qualify for benefits. It’s written in bold on their visas.
Kemi just rabble rousing and speaking shit as per usual. Zero brain cells.
ItsDominare on
There are already plenty of types of visa and other kinds of immigration status which include the “no recourse to public funds” condition.
It sounds like she’s proposing a blanket ban that applies even someone who e.g. came on a spouse visa and has indefinite leave to remain, works and pays taxes, but is still waiting for the required period before obtaining full citizenship. Telling someone like that they get no help if they become disabled seems pretty harsh.
I suspect this one’s more about getting herself the headline than any serious policy proposal.
socratic-meth on
> The plans come amid rising concerns within Tory ranks about the growing cost of disability benefits and fears that the system is being exploited by claimants, including foreign nationals
Shame they weren’t concerned about it when they were in government, when they aren’t on the take they have time to think about what kind of policies they should support.
Electrical_Mango_489 on
Ah there’s my dog whistle. Been looking for that today.
somnamna2516 on
Must tell my thai missus. Here’s me thinking she’s no access to benefits when in fact she can get free houses and shit 🤷
DrFordAtYourService on
Anyone contributing to the country as they should… should be able to access the benefits.
This is just typical foreigner-hating rage bait from the conservatives, as usual
01091987 on
Couldn’t agree more. absolutely disgusting all theses people on benefits that have contributed nothing to our economy
elhazelenby on
Conservatives really don’t have any idea about reality. Tell me, how were they in power for 14 years again?
GenerallyDull on
Surely this is just plain common sense?
We shouldn’t be letting anyone in if they’re likely to be a net taker in the economy.
JakeGrey on
Every time this woman opens her mouth I feel marginally less aggravation with regards to Starmer.
Ambitious-Bit157 on
I mean this just comes down to who we give citizenship to and for what reasons.
NARVALhacker69 on
If you have been working for the country and has no priors I don’t see any reason why he should not be entitled to benefits if, for example, a workplace accident leaves him disabled
Vegetable-Meaning-31 on
Right… well the anxiety thing is a minefield, there’s a difference between feeling anxious and being clinically diagnosed and medicated with an anxiety disorder, it’s nowhere near the same thing, they aren’t even in the same league as each other in regards to the life destroying effects the latter has over the former.
Bundle both together and the governments liable to get sued over it so for her sake I’d tread carefully in that regard.
Rob_Cram on
Kemi Badenoch is preparing to push for a ban on **foreigners** claiming key disability benefits in a bid to prevent people “gaming the system”. The Conservative leader will use a forthcoming speech to draw a clear dividing line between her party and Labour on welfare reform. Central to her message will be a demand to restrict personal independence payments (PIPs) and sickness top-ups to Universal Credit strictly to British citizens.
She will say: “These benefits, which can be worth up to £1,200 a month, must only be available to British citizens. **Foreign nationals**, with the exception of EU citizens with settled status, should be excluded from these payouts.”
janon93 on
This is why you never cave to conservatives on befits cuts, they will just ask for more cuts
AntsInMaiPants on
Tories imported 2million people per year under their rule and now 1 in 25 ppl here were born outside the UK.
They let more in than labour before them and now labour will probably let even more in. Reform is the only option left for anyone with any criticisms on these numbers. They shouldn’t even mention immigration as if they’re tough on it.
Ill_Breadfruit_9761 on
She’s right? Or is she just lying? Benefits need to be earned
MomoSkywalker on
On the visa, it states they cannot get benefits or apply for it… So what is she talking about???
Adam_Da_Egret on
Next up, disabled people to be stripped of there citizenship
blob8543 on
It says a lot about this country that we tolerate this sort of scumbag politicians.
BlindStupidDesperate on
Kemi Badenoch could broadcast state secrets and hard-core pornography every night on BBC1 and still nobody would listen to her; her party and her leadership are utterly irrelevant.
Sleepywalker69 on
Alternatively, marrying your cousin should be banned, it’s been clearly linked to higher rates of disability in children. That’s not just opinion, multiple studies have shown this.
AntysocialButterfly on
We’ve reached the point of fridge poetry as policy, in other words.
One_Setting_6384 on
I dont know what it is, but I cant stand listening to this woman. Something about her seems off, an evil vibe
McShoobydoobydoo on
That’s right Kemi, people shouldn’t be allowed the stuff they aren’t already allowed.
The best of the Tories? She even shite at dog whistling racism
SnapDragon2525 on
Funny how Kemi suddenly thinks of these things but was quiet when in power.
sticky3004 on
Isn’t this the lady that was born in the UK and spent the first 16 years of her life abroad and wouldn’t have even qualified for citizenship in the manner that she did if she was born 15 years later.
360Saturn on
I truly don’t understand people like her. First generation immigrant. Literally an anchor baby. Yet perceives herself to be just as British as someone who’s been here since year dot. And is vehemently anti immigrants *even though her own parents would fall foul of what she proposes*.
GiftedGeordie on
If you’re a UK citizen, regardless if you’re born in Tyneside or Timbuktu, then you should have the same rights as the rest of the population.
Tarkedo on
It would be better if we started giving disability benefits based on the definition of disability that we had about 50 years ago.
life-is-a-simulation on
If you come to the UK and you haven’t paid in you should receive absolutely nothing.
If you have paid in for 5 years then you can become eligible.
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Ban all benefits for foreign nationals. If you want to come here to work and contribute we should roll out the red carpet, handing out free houses and money to anyone and everyone is part of why we’re so broke as a country.
I’m in favour of some nuance on this. Foreigners who have stuck their neck out for us should be entitled to benefits.
I’m thinking the likes of Ghurkas or Afghanistan’s translators etc.
Also if they pay a certain about in taxes then certain benefits entitlement doesn’t seem unreasonable.
That can’t be legal under equality legislation and would be overruled immediately, surely.
Stupid policy wide open to challenge, which I suspect is the point because Tories prefer loudly fighting courts than fixing problems – it’s their speciality when they are struggling to stay relevant.
Just expand the list of people included in the _No Recourse to Public Funds_ category if you’re hell-bent on it, rather than creating a two-tier and more complicated disability benefits system that specifically excludes people on the basis of their background.
I agree with this, and I’m a foreigner in this county myself.
I’m not sure what the policy is around disability benefits specifically for foreigners, but every work visa/BRP/whatever replaced these two is issued with the words “no recourse to public funds”. No one’s getting houses or JSA.
People on work and family visa’s don’t qualify for benefits. It’s written in bold on their visas.
Kemi just rabble rousing and speaking shit as per usual. Zero brain cells.
There are already plenty of types of visa and other kinds of immigration status which include the “no recourse to public funds” condition.
It sounds like she’s proposing a blanket ban that applies even someone who e.g. came on a spouse visa and has indefinite leave to remain, works and pays taxes, but is still waiting for the required period before obtaining full citizenship. Telling someone like that they get no help if they become disabled seems pretty harsh.
I suspect this one’s more about getting herself the headline than any serious policy proposal.
> The plans come amid rising concerns within Tory ranks about the growing cost of disability benefits and fears that the system is being exploited by claimants, including foreign nationals
Shame they weren’t concerned about it when they were in government, when they aren’t on the take they have time to think about what kind of policies they should support.
Ah there’s my dog whistle. Been looking for that today.
Must tell my thai missus. Here’s me thinking she’s no access to benefits when in fact she can get free houses and shit 🤷
Anyone contributing to the country as they should… should be able to access the benefits.
This is just typical foreigner-hating rage bait from the conservatives, as usual
Couldn’t agree more. absolutely disgusting all theses people on benefits that have contributed nothing to our economy
Conservatives really don’t have any idea about reality. Tell me, how were they in power for 14 years again?
Surely this is just plain common sense?
We shouldn’t be letting anyone in if they’re likely to be a net taker in the economy.
Every time this woman opens her mouth I feel marginally less aggravation with regards to Starmer.
I mean this just comes down to who we give citizenship to and for what reasons.
If you have been working for the country and has no priors I don’t see any reason why he should not be entitled to benefits if, for example, a workplace accident leaves him disabled
Right… well the anxiety thing is a minefield, there’s a difference between feeling anxious and being clinically diagnosed and medicated with an anxiety disorder, it’s nowhere near the same thing, they aren’t even in the same league as each other in regards to the life destroying effects the latter has over the former.
Bundle both together and the governments liable to get sued over it so for her sake I’d tread carefully in that regard.
Kemi Badenoch is preparing to push for a ban on **foreigners** claiming key disability benefits in a bid to prevent people “gaming the system”. The Conservative leader will use a forthcoming speech to draw a clear dividing line between her party and Labour on welfare reform. Central to her message will be a demand to restrict personal independence payments (PIPs) and sickness top-ups to Universal Credit strictly to British citizens.
She will say: “These benefits, which can be worth up to £1,200 a month, must only be available to British citizens. **Foreign nationals**, with the exception of EU citizens with settled status, should be excluded from these payouts.”
This is why you never cave to conservatives on befits cuts, they will just ask for more cuts
Tories imported 2million people per year under their rule and now 1 in 25 ppl here were born outside the UK.
They let more in than labour before them and now labour will probably let even more in. Reform is the only option left for anyone with any criticisms on these numbers. They shouldn’t even mention immigration as if they’re tough on it.
She’s right? Or is she just lying? Benefits need to be earned
On the visa, it states they cannot get benefits or apply for it… So what is she talking about???
Next up, disabled people to be stripped of there citizenship
It says a lot about this country that we tolerate this sort of scumbag politicians.
Kemi Badenoch could broadcast state secrets and hard-core pornography every night on BBC1 and still nobody would listen to her; her party and her leadership are utterly irrelevant.
Alternatively, marrying your cousin should be banned, it’s been clearly linked to higher rates of disability in children. That’s not just opinion, multiple studies have shown this.
We’ve reached the point of fridge poetry as policy, in other words.
I dont know what it is, but I cant stand listening to this woman. Something about her seems off, an evil vibe
That’s right Kemi, people shouldn’t be allowed the stuff they aren’t already allowed.
The best of the Tories? She even shite at dog whistling racism
Funny how Kemi suddenly thinks of these things but was quiet when in power.
Isn’t this the lady that was born in the UK and spent the first 16 years of her life abroad and wouldn’t have even qualified for citizenship in the manner that she did if she was born 15 years later.
I truly don’t understand people like her. First generation immigrant. Literally an anchor baby. Yet perceives herself to be just as British as someone who’s been here since year dot. And is vehemently anti immigrants *even though her own parents would fall foul of what she proposes*.
If you’re a UK citizen, regardless if you’re born in Tyneside or Timbuktu, then you should have the same rights as the rest of the population.
It would be better if we started giving disability benefits based on the definition of disability that we had about 50 years ago.
If you come to the UK and you haven’t paid in you should receive absolutely nothing.
If you have paid in for 5 years then you can become eligible.