i swear, if some of the labour MPs actually got off their high horses and actually understood that if they keep fucking about, they will hand back the next election to reform and the tories, which will be far more detrimental to the country than this current labour government which is trying to balance the books.
Literally cutting off its nose to spite its face. I didnt vote labour to get a bunch of moralistic financially incompetent people in to power. I voted labour to have adults back in the room. Not toddlers throwing the dummie out the pram.
sisali on
Ministers are holding this countries economic collapse off by a thread and these tossports and reaching for the scissors.
Maybe we need a good IMF bailout, they can’t complain about the welfare state when there isn’t one.
the-rood-inverse on
We all agree with that assessment but it’s pretty clear that Labour have once again become obsessed with ideological purity- so let’s get ready for a another decade of tories.
The-Peel on
Labour MPs won’t rebel because they’re scared of losing the whip and their own jobs.
Even some of the left leaning ones that I used to rate care more about their paychecks than the disabled having their benefits cut and left to die.
It used to be the case that the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Now the poor just die.
Azzadal on
> “If they said they were going to stop benefit payments for people claiming for anxiety or for ADHD, I would have said fine. But they were looking to take money away from seriously vulnerable people. And when they tried to force us to back it, I had people shouting down the phone at me, warning me that I will never have a ministerial role. I thought, you’ve completely misjudged this, this is absolutely no way to try and manage people.”
Not quite the image of the head in the clouds dippy backbenchers some people seem keen on pushing.
It’s almost like if Keir and co had actually consulted with his MPs instead of forcing something unpopular through he might have managed to at least achieve something
Next_Replacement_566 on
Because they aren’t hardline about the billionaires who sap out of the economy
FuzzBuket on
Whilst leftist infighting is always present, the labour MPs have a point.
Cause it’s very clear the PLP values loyalty over competence, and that’s lead to a genuine dire crop of ministers.
And it’s that PLP leadership that keeps being very antagonistic to their own members, so labour MPs keep getting put in this spot where they are to follow the party line, but are very much aware that they are losing their jobs if the plp keeps going against their voters.
Ok-Swan1152 on
Labour backbenchers living in La La Land once again.
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Intrepid_Solution194 on
Seriously; defending benefit scroungers and winter wine payments to the wealthiest generation this country has ever seen at the expense of working taxpayers.
No wonder we get long Conservative Parliaments. These Labour backbenchers need to wake the fuck up.
ruffianrevolution on
The benefits of concentrating on getting into power instead of doing thinking.
ITried2 on
Genuinely think these rebels had no idea what they were doing when they sank the welfare reforms.
They are literally fucking the government. It’s baffling.
The money has to come from somewhere.
Remarkable-Text8586 on
The labour party really is full of clowns, nothing to offer apart from the politics of envy.
AgeofVictoriaPodcast on
The view of the Peoples Judea Front is that the Peoples Front of Judea doesn’t represent the people of Judea.
bus_wankerr on
I honestly think they should defect and go to the liberal democrats, at least we would have a left leaning central party rather than right leaning.
terrordactyl1971 on
Don’t say they are shit, Rachel will start crying again.
Buddie_15775 on
Which is why I’m glad I didn’t vote for that shower!
Thevanillafalcon on
From a purely political standpoint, it’s a real bad look that starmer can’t keep his back benchers in check.
There’s always going to be issues with what central government does that constituents don’t like. This is what the whip is for.
They seem to have a rebellion every week, I’m not commenting on if the policies are good or bad but say for example they wanted to get rid of the triple lock, they’d be a rebellion the week after because local MPs are terrified of losing the grey vote.
Literally nothing will get done at all a government level. Labour said they were going to get past nimbyism in regards to building homes but this is essentially shades of that.
jodrellbank_pants on
Labour is a shit show of a party, it will end up a two party system, but not the two we expect just reform and liberal.
At least for the next few generations anyway.
Royal-Jackfruit-2556 on
You can’t say that! Some may be offended!
Thats a mandatory 2 year min sentence now.
Adeptus_Astartez on
Move to the centre and die. Labour needs to help the working class or lose.
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i swear, if some of the labour MPs actually got off their high horses and actually understood that if they keep fucking about, they will hand back the next election to reform and the tories, which will be far more detrimental to the country than this current labour government which is trying to balance the books.
Literally cutting off its nose to spite its face. I didnt vote labour to get a bunch of moralistic financially incompetent people in to power. I voted labour to have adults back in the room. Not toddlers throwing the dummie out the pram.
Ministers are holding this countries economic collapse off by a thread and these tossports and reaching for the scissors.
Maybe we need a good IMF bailout, they can’t complain about the welfare state when there isn’t one.
We all agree with that assessment but it’s pretty clear that Labour have once again become obsessed with ideological purity- so let’s get ready for a another decade of tories.
Labour MPs won’t rebel because they’re scared of losing the whip and their own jobs.
Even some of the left leaning ones that I used to rate care more about their paychecks than the disabled having their benefits cut and left to die.
It used to be the case that the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Now the poor just die.
> “If they said they were going to stop benefit payments for people claiming for anxiety or for ADHD, I would have said fine. But they were looking to take money away from seriously vulnerable people. And when they tried to force us to back it, I had people shouting down the phone at me, warning me that I will never have a ministerial role. I thought, you’ve completely misjudged this, this is absolutely no way to try and manage people.”
Not quite the image of the head in the clouds dippy backbenchers some people seem keen on pushing.
It’s almost like if Keir and co had actually consulted with his MPs instead of forcing something unpopular through he might have managed to at least achieve something
Because they aren’t hardline about the billionaires who sap out of the economy
Whilst leftist infighting is always present, the labour MPs have a point.
Cause it’s very clear the PLP values loyalty over competence, and that’s lead to a genuine dire crop of ministers.
And it’s that PLP leadership that keeps being very antagonistic to their own members, so labour MPs keep getting put in this spot where they are to follow the party line, but are very much aware that they are losing their jobs if the plp keeps going against their voters.
Labour backbenchers living in La La Land once again.
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Seriously; defending benefit scroungers and winter wine payments to the wealthiest generation this country has ever seen at the expense of working taxpayers.
No wonder we get long Conservative Parliaments. These Labour backbenchers need to wake the fuck up.
The benefits of concentrating on getting into power instead of doing thinking.
Genuinely think these rebels had no idea what they were doing when they sank the welfare reforms.
They are literally fucking the government. It’s baffling.
The money has to come from somewhere.
The labour party really is full of clowns, nothing to offer apart from the politics of envy.
The view of the Peoples Judea Front is that the Peoples Front of Judea doesn’t represent the people of Judea.
I honestly think they should defect and go to the liberal democrats, at least we would have a left leaning central party rather than right leaning.
Don’t say they are shit, Rachel will start crying again.
Which is why I’m glad I didn’t vote for that shower!
From a purely political standpoint, it’s a real bad look that starmer can’t keep his back benchers in check.
There’s always going to be issues with what central government does that constituents don’t like. This is what the whip is for.
They seem to have a rebellion every week, I’m not commenting on if the policies are good or bad but say for example they wanted to get rid of the triple lock, they’d be a rebellion the week after because local MPs are terrified of losing the grey vote.
Literally nothing will get done at all a government level. Labour said they were going to get past nimbyism in regards to building homes but this is essentially shades of that.
Labour is a shit show of a party, it will end up a two party system, but not the two we expect just reform and liberal.
At least for the next few generations anyway.
You can’t say that! Some may be offended!
Thats a mandatory 2 year min sentence now.
Move to the centre and die. Labour needs to help the working class or lose.