Everyday I read a news article that someone has been let of a prison sentence for having thousands of child porn images. Why do they bother making new laws when they aren’t enforcing the ones we have already? Is it just so it looks like they care or to keep the army of civil servants in a job?
Kleptowizard on
Lame, also but late. Wasn’t it one of theirs that was found dead from auto erotica asphyxiation with an orange in their mouth, no porn inspiring him. Just other out of touch rich southen folks who couldn’t care less about the rest of the country…Let us wank for God’s sake. Do your jobs and stop wasting our money on social programs.
SpoofExcel on
Ah yes. This will definitely be enforceable and also is 100% the cause of domestic violence.
golosala on
Glad to hear the police have solved all the rapes and sexual assaults. It’s nice they’re all dealt with so they can focus some attention on preventing people from watching consensual kink content. Who knows what damaged that could have caused.
Jeq0 on
No wonder the UK is becoming the laughing stock of the world.
LonelyStranger8467 on
I’ve known multiple women say they masturbated to the scene in Natural Born Killers.
This law is pointless grandstanding.
tempy1256 on
I think the reason for this is because it’s being viewed as a ‘normal’ sex act by teens.
Folk into BDSM are all about informed consent and respecting boundaries, limits, safety.
Other folk especially impressionable young adults thinking it’s normal are more likely to cause serious damage or death to their partner- usually the girl. So chalk this up for a win for women’s safety
Quick-Exit-5601 on
Why should I give a fuck about what’s illegal in UK if we are about to have a massive increase in VPNs?
Responsible_Loss8246 on
The number of women who overtly say they enjoy being strangled and choked during sex is crazy. I think it’s fair game if people are consenting to it, it’s a pretty mild kink.
I’m not sure what this law is designed to achieve. Are they trying to influence people’s sex lives? Seems very nanny-state-like, which would fit with what British governments like to do.
I also find the language in the article quite startling:
> The announcement, as campaigned for by Jessica Asato and others, follows the Independent Porn Review, conducted by Baroness Gabby Bertin, which found that media sources such as pornography have effectively established strangulation during sex as a **‘sexual norm’,** and a belief that strangling a partner during sex is ‘safe’ because it is believed to be non-fatal despite overwhelming evidence that is is believed there is no safe way to strangle a person.
What is a sexual norm? Do we have a list of what these norms are?
Does the government have a booklet on how sex should take place and what should happen during government-approved sex?
Are they going to ban porn where women are trampling on men’s balls too? After all, there’s no safe way to stamp on a man’s balls.
__Alexstrasza__ on
Banning consensual acts is sure to fix the problems! >! /s !<
ComfortableJeans on
Would that mean a punishment for *viewing* that material, or just producing that material?
I have to imagine there are a whole host of issue with this law.
How do you define *strangulation*? Is it just having hands around a partners throat?
At what point does a squeeze become a strangle? Is it when there’s a visible grip, or just when they turn purple?
Does a strangle have to be done with hands, or are we also counting a from behind, prone position with an arm around the throat in a choke-hold position?
If viewing the material is illegal, who will remove what I’m pretty sure would be thousands and thousands of videos already online? How would we stop every other western country from producing that content, uploading it to western sites and people from out country accidentally seeing it?
I mean, these videos are going to be on mainstream, HTTPS enabled sites. Presumably sites where you need to hand over your ID to access soon. They’re about as secure as they’ve ever been, and they’re STILL going to be hosting this choking content.
Who is this meant to protect? Consenting adults? Because we’ve *just* brought in a law that prohibits anyone who hadn’t handed their ID over to the government from viewing pornography.
Unless we’re admitting to ourselves that this new law doesn’t really do anything other that give a third party, hired by the government, access to a lot of peoples incredibly embarrassing, potentially life destroying data in this up coming, inevitable leak?
Before even getting into all the issues with government bodies intruding on what two consenting adults decide to do with no victims of said acts, I don’t even understand how you’d put any version of this law into practice.
Euclid_Interloper on
Judge: ‘You stand accused of being a dirty, kinky boy. How do you plead?’
Accused: ‘Guilty ~~daddy~~ your honour’
Jury: ‘We’d pass judgement, but we all got stuck in washing machines’
Wigspraynaynay on
Why, though?
Why make more laws for an underfunded police to go after – and why make what two consensual adults do illegal?
mosh-4-jesus on
ok so i just read through;
1: define strangulation, because they fucking don’t. are we talking niche fetish with garottes and leather gloves, or are we talking bare hand on neck with very little pressure? if you’re banning shit, better be fucking specific. the wording is “Pornography depicting any act of strangulation to be made illegal through Crime and Policing Bill”, that is not fucking specific.
2: everything mentioned in there is about women, still good to go on gay porn, yeah? obviously not, but ofc the censors don’t give a shit about gay porn.
3: maybe if you took a more hands-on approach with regulating the porn *industry*, you could actually enforce safe work practices and protect sex worke- oh wait they don’t give a FUCK about sex workers.
4: banning niche fetish porn is just gonna push those who seek it into the worst corners of the internet, which is probably worse!
all in all i think banning it is a Bad Idea which prolly makes me some kind of filthy degenerate who should be locked up but idk i think bans with broad language and a complete disregard for entire swathes of the medium and no long-term plan to actually make that medium safe is fucking stupid and just a point-scoring exercise.
Just_passing-55 on
Last time they did this it was banning face sitting. But at the same time it was a good distraction from the other laws the were on the same bill that we a bit more questionable.
Upstairs-Farm7106 on
Maturing is realising a substantially large amount of women like to be dominated / strangled by a man they trust in bed.
There’s a reason why 50 Shades Of Grey is one of the top books for women in recent years.
LordLucian on
Of course they are, I cant wait for the first person to be convicted of watching strangulation porn.
Ludicrous ass clown country we live in.
Deep_Banana_6521 on
As long as they leave busty latinas in pornography legal, you won’t hear a complaint from me.
MySongYourBeetroots on
So glad we’re tackling the things that really matter like a random blanket ban on another kink in porn. I’m sure that will definitely stop the core issue. /s
Wutanghang on
Why is the UK always doing these ass backward regulations that are a bandaid fix and doesn’t actually address the real problem.
gluxton on
Wait what? Half of the girls I’ve been with have specifically pushed me into this, why are we legislating against it?
km6669 on
The wild thing here as somebody who is active within the kink scene is that women requesting choking is so common its almost vanilla at this point.
Almost every women I meet requests a CNC scene. (consensual non consent aka simulated rape).
Most people in the scene use kink as a way of processing (and owning their) trauma. Of all the people i’ve met this ban might have tempered just one womans addiction to porn of that nature.
LongCharacter9532 on
**Breaking news:** Millions imprisoned globally for breaking new uk porn law.
Is the government now saying that a video/image of 2 consenting adults doing this act is now illegal for another adult to view!?
g0_west on
Where the fuck did this come from and why lmao, who thought this was a pressing issue of all things.
M3dus45 on
standard uk government.
ban something for the sake of looking like they’re doing something rather than to actually protect people.
Ricky_Martins_Vagina on
I’ve said this years ago, as far back as the mass face-sitting protest outside parliament, but the problem is not the depiction of rough but consensual sex acts in pornography.
If you’re going to go after porn, go after relatively tame content but which focuses on coercive scenarios:
– The teacher / student
– Dad / babysitter
– Fake taxi / fake agent / fake security
Most of these typically depict someone in a vulnerable position being coerced into a sexual situation that otherwise wouldn’t occur.
The step bro/sis stuff which often involves one peeping on the other, getting caught and then end up shagging. Or the classic ‘stuck in the tumble dryer’ meme plot: “oh look, step-sis has somehow got tangled up in the coffee table, guess I’d better start shagging her”
The content is tame, like I say, but far more transferable to real life and I would bet lead towards making people feel emboldened to expect / coerce sexual favours from people in similar scenarios.
Cpt_TomMoores_jacuzi on
Fucking hell.
If Starmer gets his way we’ll all be having sex like him and his Mrs:
No foreplay, minimal eye contact, stripey jamas on, 5 minutes of moderate pumping in the missionary position and an “ahhh champion” at the moment of climax. No orgasms for madam of course.
CrispoClumbo on
Is this how they start to normalise state control of private life? The colloquial ‘thin end of the wedge’. They come for porn first, because people are less likely to speak out against that.
And here we are. First implementing dodgy age verification, now deciding what is and isn’t acceptable between consenting adults.
A very slippery slope.
aaaaaaaa1273 on
Our government and ridiculous overreach that solves nothing, name a better duo.
hudibrastic on
When you think you have seen the bottom of the stupidity a government can do
We hit a new low
MattStormTornado on
What’s the threshold for this? As far as I know it’s a common kink of some.
FunSpecialist2506 on
Does this country do anything other than banning, censoring, and surveilling?
Craig5361 on
Plenty of legal porn sites have fake strangulation or light strangulation. How the f*ck do they even plan to enforce this?
SupernovaEngine on
How would they enforce something like this? And what would the sentence even be?
vaguelypurple on
What’s about if I masturbate to MMA does that count?
TimeToNukeTheWhales on
This is pretty bizarre. Don’t a lot of women *like* being choked and literally request it?
But no, we need to ban it in porn to protect women from themselves.
Random_Guy_47 on
What about other media that includes strangulation?
Are we gonna ban The Simpsons next because Homer constantly strangles Bart?
What do we ban next? Where does it end?
vaguelypurple on
I notice there’s no mention in this of gay guys strangling each other or woman strangling men. So I’m guessing this only applies to woman being strangled by men? Because apparently woman can’t consent and should be denied sexual gratification even if fully consenting?
Also does this apply to possessing porn involving strangling or just making it?
Flashy-Raspberry-131 on
If I could count the amount of times that something in porn had been made illegal yet is still accessible without any checks, I’d be at a non negative number.
Palmtreesandcake on
They can ban hand to neck strangulation, unfortunately the more common thing to worry about, is choking the performers with their penis during oral. This pops up in pornography in almost every scene, even if you are watching a scene that doesn’t look like it would be violent.
shugthedug3 on
Idiotic.
It’s a matter of time until they ‘ban’ BDSM entirely.
British prudishness is back, it never went away really but we’ve regressed to Thatcher era pearl clutching stupidity.
malin7 on
State of the comments, lots of unhappy porn addicts
Hellstorm901 on
The entire Online Safety Act and the other things being brought in as part of it such as this is a disgrace and what’s astonishing is that this march towards Gilead where anything deemed indecent or harmful towards women and children be it pornography, violent media or video games happening right now is happening through PURE INCOMPETENCE by politicians who cannot see the sheer danger of what they are doing to this country
All these mechanisms, acts and laws they are putting in place in the name of protecting people are sleep marching us into absolute totalitarianism as all it will take is a politician coming to power, and we all know who that is, for him to then turn all these mechanisms. acts and laws on their head and use them for their ideological agenda
Suddenly your “We must ban depictions of strangulation in pornography to protect women” mission creeps into “We must ban all depictions of pornography in media to protect women” and suddenly you wake up and find out that all your TV shows have been banned as they’ve now defined pornography to the same standard as the likes of Saudi Arabia’s morality police do
I’m sorry people but we absolutely must make a stand against this nonsense because this government and all these politicians we have in power endorsing these morality police moves are sleep walking us to disaster while they dismiss all criticism of it by pushing the “If you oppose it you must automatically be part of it” fallacy
TexasBrett on
What are they going to tell us next? It’s against the law to have sex with our step mom? 🙄
CeffylBach69 on
I can’t believe people are actually mad about this?? Considering the rise in child – on – child sexual assault that porn causes, rise in non consensual strangulation more and more women are experiencing during sex, how many males have gotten away with killing women using “kink” as excuse, and how it’s been shown and proven that there’s no such thing as safe strangulation.
Wellington_Wearer on
I have no idea why people are complaining. This is a good thing
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Everyday I read a news article that someone has been let of a prison sentence for having thousands of child porn images. Why do they bother making new laws when they aren’t enforcing the ones we have already? Is it just so it looks like they care or to keep the army of civil servants in a job?
Lame, also but late. Wasn’t it one of theirs that was found dead from auto erotica asphyxiation with an orange in their mouth, no porn inspiring him. Just other out of touch rich southen folks who couldn’t care less about the rest of the country…Let us wank for God’s sake. Do your jobs and stop wasting our money on social programs.
Ah yes. This will definitely be enforceable and also is 100% the cause of domestic violence.
Glad to hear the police have solved all the rapes and sexual assaults. It’s nice they’re all dealt with so they can focus some attention on preventing people from watching consensual kink content. Who knows what damaged that could have caused.
No wonder the UK is becoming the laughing stock of the world.
I’ve known multiple women say they masturbated to the scene in Natural Born Killers.
This law is pointless grandstanding.
I think the reason for this is because it’s being viewed as a ‘normal’ sex act by teens.
Folk into BDSM are all about informed consent and respecting boundaries, limits, safety.
Other folk especially impressionable young adults thinking it’s normal are more likely to cause serious damage or death to their partner- usually the girl. So chalk this up for a win for women’s safety
Why should I give a fuck about what’s illegal in UK if we are about to have a massive increase in VPNs?
The number of women who overtly say they enjoy being strangled and choked during sex is crazy. I think it’s fair game if people are consenting to it, it’s a pretty mild kink.
I’m not sure what this law is designed to achieve. Are they trying to influence people’s sex lives? Seems very nanny-state-like, which would fit with what British governments like to do.
I also find the language in the article quite startling:
> The announcement, as campaigned for by Jessica Asato and others, follows the Independent Porn Review, conducted by Baroness Gabby Bertin, which found that media sources such as pornography have effectively established strangulation during sex as a **‘sexual norm’,** and a belief that strangling a partner during sex is ‘safe’ because it is believed to be non-fatal despite overwhelming evidence that is is believed there is no safe way to strangle a person.
What is a sexual norm? Do we have a list of what these norms are?
Does the government have a booklet on how sex should take place and what should happen during government-approved sex?
Are they going to ban porn where women are trampling on men’s balls too? After all, there’s no safe way to stamp on a man’s balls.
Banning consensual acts is sure to fix the problems! >! /s !<
Would that mean a punishment for *viewing* that material, or just producing that material?
I have to imagine there are a whole host of issue with this law.
How do you define *strangulation*? Is it just having hands around a partners throat?
At what point does a squeeze become a strangle? Is it when there’s a visible grip, or just when they turn purple?
Does a strangle have to be done with hands, or are we also counting a from behind, prone position with an arm around the throat in a choke-hold position?
If viewing the material is illegal, who will remove what I’m pretty sure would be thousands and thousands of videos already online? How would we stop every other western country from producing that content, uploading it to western sites and people from out country accidentally seeing it?
I mean, these videos are going to be on mainstream, HTTPS enabled sites. Presumably sites where you need to hand over your ID to access soon. They’re about as secure as they’ve ever been, and they’re STILL going to be hosting this choking content.
Who is this meant to protect? Consenting adults? Because we’ve *just* brought in a law that prohibits anyone who hadn’t handed their ID over to the government from viewing pornography.
Unless we’re admitting to ourselves that this new law doesn’t really do anything other that give a third party, hired by the government, access to a lot of peoples incredibly embarrassing, potentially life destroying data in this up coming, inevitable leak?
Before even getting into all the issues with government bodies intruding on what two consenting adults decide to do with no victims of said acts, I don’t even understand how you’d put any version of this law into practice.
Judge: ‘You stand accused of being a dirty, kinky boy. How do you plead?’
Accused: ‘Guilty ~~daddy~~ your honour’
Jury: ‘We’d pass judgement, but we all got stuck in washing machines’
Why, though?
Why make more laws for an underfunded police to go after – and why make what two consensual adults do illegal?
ok so i just read through;
1: define strangulation, because they fucking don’t. are we talking niche fetish with garottes and leather gloves, or are we talking bare hand on neck with very little pressure? if you’re banning shit, better be fucking specific. the wording is “Pornography depicting any act of strangulation to be made illegal through Crime and Policing Bill”, that is not fucking specific.
2: everything mentioned in there is about women, still good to go on gay porn, yeah? obviously not, but ofc the censors don’t give a shit about gay porn.
3: maybe if you took a more hands-on approach with regulating the porn *industry*, you could actually enforce safe work practices and protect sex worke- oh wait they don’t give a FUCK about sex workers.
4: banning niche fetish porn is just gonna push those who seek it into the worst corners of the internet, which is probably worse!
all in all i think banning it is a Bad Idea which prolly makes me some kind of filthy degenerate who should be locked up but idk i think bans with broad language and a complete disregard for entire swathes of the medium and no long-term plan to actually make that medium safe is fucking stupid and just a point-scoring exercise.
Last time they did this it was banning face sitting. But at the same time it was a good distraction from the other laws the were on the same bill that we a bit more questionable.
Maturing is realising a substantially large amount of women like to be dominated / strangled by a man they trust in bed.
There’s a reason why 50 Shades Of Grey is one of the top books for women in recent years.
Of course they are, I cant wait for the first person to be convicted of watching strangulation porn.
Ludicrous ass clown country we live in.
As long as they leave busty latinas in pornography legal, you won’t hear a complaint from me.
So glad we’re tackling the things that really matter like a random blanket ban on another kink in porn. I’m sure that will definitely stop the core issue. /s
Why is the UK always doing these ass backward regulations that are a bandaid fix and doesn’t actually address the real problem.
Wait what? Half of the girls I’ve been with have specifically pushed me into this, why are we legislating against it?
The wild thing here as somebody who is active within the kink scene is that women requesting choking is so common its almost vanilla at this point.
Almost every women I meet requests a CNC scene. (consensual non consent aka simulated rape).
Most people in the scene use kink as a way of processing (and owning their) trauma. Of all the people i’ve met this ban might have tempered just one womans addiction to porn of that nature.
**Breaking news:** Millions imprisoned globally for breaking new uk porn law.
[NOT!](https://media1.tenor.com/m/peKSxoz9haIAAAAd/not-borat.gif)
I’m not into this but…
Is the government now saying that a video/image of 2 consenting adults doing this act is now illegal for another adult to view!?
Where the fuck did this come from and why lmao, who thought this was a pressing issue of all things.
standard uk government.
ban something for the sake of looking like they’re doing something rather than to actually protect people.
I’ve said this years ago, as far back as the mass face-sitting protest outside parliament, but the problem is not the depiction of rough but consensual sex acts in pornography.
If you’re going to go after porn, go after relatively tame content but which focuses on coercive scenarios:
– The teacher / student
– Dad / babysitter
– Fake taxi / fake agent / fake security
Most of these typically depict someone in a vulnerable position being coerced into a sexual situation that otherwise wouldn’t occur.
The step bro/sis stuff which often involves one peeping on the other, getting caught and then end up shagging. Or the classic ‘stuck in the tumble dryer’ meme plot: “oh look, step-sis has somehow got tangled up in the coffee table, guess I’d better start shagging her”
The content is tame, like I say, but far more transferable to real life and I would bet lead towards making people feel emboldened to expect / coerce sexual favours from people in similar scenarios.
Fucking hell.
If Starmer gets his way we’ll all be having sex like him and his Mrs:
No foreplay, minimal eye contact, stripey jamas on, 5 minutes of moderate pumping in the missionary position and an “ahhh champion” at the moment of climax. No orgasms for madam of course.
Is this how they start to normalise state control of private life? The colloquial ‘thin end of the wedge’. They come for porn first, because people are less likely to speak out against that.
And here we are. First implementing dodgy age verification, now deciding what is and isn’t acceptable between consenting adults.
A very slippery slope.
Our government and ridiculous overreach that solves nothing, name a better duo.
When you think you have seen the bottom of the stupidity a government can do
We hit a new low
What’s the threshold for this? As far as I know it’s a common kink of some.
Does this country do anything other than banning, censoring, and surveilling?
Plenty of legal porn sites have fake strangulation or light strangulation. How the f*ck do they even plan to enforce this?
How would they enforce something like this? And what would the sentence even be?
What’s about if I masturbate to MMA does that count?
This is pretty bizarre. Don’t a lot of women *like* being choked and literally request it?
But no, we need to ban it in porn to protect women from themselves.
What about other media that includes strangulation?
Are we gonna ban The Simpsons next because Homer constantly strangles Bart?
What do we ban next? Where does it end?
I notice there’s no mention in this of gay guys strangling each other or woman strangling men. So I’m guessing this only applies to woman being strangled by men? Because apparently woman can’t consent and should be denied sexual gratification even if fully consenting?
Also does this apply to possessing porn involving strangling or just making it?
If I could count the amount of times that something in porn had been made illegal yet is still accessible without any checks, I’d be at a non negative number.
They can ban hand to neck strangulation, unfortunately the more common thing to worry about, is choking the performers with their penis during oral. This pops up in pornography in almost every scene, even if you are watching a scene that doesn’t look like it would be violent.
Idiotic.
It’s a matter of time until they ‘ban’ BDSM entirely.
British prudishness is back, it never went away really but we’ve regressed to Thatcher era pearl clutching stupidity.
State of the comments, lots of unhappy porn addicts
The entire Online Safety Act and the other things being brought in as part of it such as this is a disgrace and what’s astonishing is that this march towards Gilead where anything deemed indecent or harmful towards women and children be it pornography, violent media or video games happening right now is happening through PURE INCOMPETENCE by politicians who cannot see the sheer danger of what they are doing to this country
All these mechanisms, acts and laws they are putting in place in the name of protecting people are sleep marching us into absolute totalitarianism as all it will take is a politician coming to power, and we all know who that is, for him to then turn all these mechanisms. acts and laws on their head and use them for their ideological agenda
Suddenly your “We must ban depictions of strangulation in pornography to protect women” mission creeps into “We must ban all depictions of pornography in media to protect women” and suddenly you wake up and find out that all your TV shows have been banned as they’ve now defined pornography to the same standard as the likes of Saudi Arabia’s morality police do
I’m sorry people but we absolutely must make a stand against this nonsense because this government and all these politicians we have in power endorsing these morality police moves are sleep walking us to disaster while they dismiss all criticism of it by pushing the “If you oppose it you must automatically be part of it” fallacy
What are they going to tell us next? It’s against the law to have sex with our step mom? 🙄
I can’t believe people are actually mad about this?? Considering the rise in child – on – child sexual assault that porn causes, rise in non consensual strangulation more and more women are experiencing during sex, how many males have gotten away with killing women using “kink” as excuse, and how it’s been shown and proven that there’s no such thing as safe strangulation.
I have no idea why people are complaining. This is a good thing