In a world increasingly ruled by tech companies, some of the industry’s most powerful figures appear to be quietly drafting blueprints for the near future. There’s just one catch: it may or may not be a democratic one.
In an interview on “Decoder,” a podcast by The Verge, tech journalist Gil Duran outlines a disturbing theory that a growing number of Silicon Valley elites are pursuing a vision of power not rooted in the common good, but in profit, feudal hierarchy, and total control of the platforms that define daily life for hundreds of millions of people.
Duran dubs this emerging ideology the “Nerd Reich” — a slurry of right-wing ideas championed by ruthless tech overlords like Palantir founder Peter Thiel, Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk, venture capitalist Marc Andreessen, and cryptocurrency titan Brian Armstrong, with some OpenAI CEO Sam Altman sprinkled in for good measure. Drawing on the reactionary writings of Curtis “Mencius Moldbug” Yarvin and the cryptolibertarianism of tech investor Balaji Srinivasan, this philosophy isn’t explicitly outlined by our billionaire overlords, but is nonetheless a useful framework that explains their increasingly undemocratic actions.
jinjuwaka on
The fuck is this?
They’re not being quiet about it.
720everyday on
Or, hear me out, OBVIOUSLY working to implement “Corporate Dictatorship”
rom197 on
Please just buy your weird islands wherever, found your weird not-nations or kingdoms or whatever and leave us alone. Why tf do you have to take our democracies down with you?
JauntyLurker on
What quiet? They’ve been bragging about this for years. Thiel especially had done a lot to move in that direction.
clopticrp on
The vast majority of history has been the wealthy playing out their fantasies while everyone else tries to survive them.
gorgeoff on
it’s only quiet if you’re not paying a modicum of attention.
Prior_Leader3764 on
I don’t know guys, kinda sounds like treason to me.
SandroDA70 on
Quietly? QUIETLY? Are we living in the same reality? They have a flashing neon sign and searchlights with fireworks, cheerleaders and mascots.
HitEmWithBabaBooey on
They actually want to take it even further than that and have feudal mega cities that are independently run but with the President becoming the ultimate CEO figure. It’s the long term plan for Project 25.
This video was originally released right before the election and if I saw I then, I would’ve scoffed at it and said these people are crazy. But, I saw it in February with my jaw hitting the floor because a lot of it was already coming to shape even that early on.
Tech bros are psychotic and want to absolutely destroy America so they can play God.
Technical_Choice_629 on
Remember if the goals of this darkness are being brought to reality by “Invisible Forces”, then we are going to have a hard time proving individuals are culpable, on their own.
BUT WE CAN’T LET THIS STOP US FROM FIGHTING AGAINST THIS CLEAR ATTACK ON US! It does exist and it is happening. (We don’t have to prove that they are actively planning this shyt at Davos and at San Francisco steakhouses.
Snakularity on
Getting closer and closer to Cyberpunk’s dystopia every day.
korbentherhino on
So they saw cyberpunk games and books and saw that as good idea.
Childishjakerino on
Google Dark MAGA Gothic for the abc plan of attack.
Jazzlike-Vacation230 on
It’s the 19th century repeating with tech everywhere
GunnerGregory on
Also, water is wet.
This has been in progress for decades…
Centryl on
Was coming in to state the same thing. It hasn’t been very hush hush.
borkborkibork on
We are not a democracy and haven’t been for a long time
kronikfumes on
This is not the first time the elites in this country have exploited the working class. We are in the midst of a 21st century gilded age. All it takes is enough people to get tired of it and elect politicians whom will bring about a 21st century progressive era.
NotAnotherBlingBlop on
They’re doing it so quietly their entire plan is public knowledge
Contemplating_Prison on
They talk about it interviews. Hahaha. Its not quiet. People just dont care
Glyph8 on
“Accused”? ”Theory”? Thiel admitted it. Musk boasted he was “Dark MAGA”, referencing Yarvin’s “Dark Enlightenment” shit. I can’t recall if that was before or after he Sieg Heiled, twice, in front of of the Presidential Seal. Vance has spoken of being influenced by Yarvin’s ideas, and he’s ultimately their man.
”*I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible*” – Peter Thiel
No shade to OP, I know that in some corners of the wider culture this info has been slow to get to them, or they never heard of “Mencius Moldbug” (lucky bastards) so I don’t object to this info being repeated and disseminated again, hopefully it does reach new audiences; but we are in deep, deep trouble here.
As awful and chaotic as the Trump/redhat MAGA wing is, and as awful as the Project 2025 Heritage Foundation/Vought wing is, there’s ALSO the technofeudalist billionaire wing of this mess – they serve roughly the same function as the weirdo sci-fi-obsessed futurist wings of the old German and Italian fascists of WWII, except with infinite money and near-monopolistic control of the internet service and apps and social media we all use.
America needs to wake the fuck up.
SpookyWah on
I propose things that violate rule#1 of this group.
Ill_Following_7022 on
Fixed: Tech Billionaires ~~Accused of Quietly~~ Working to Implement “Corporate Dictatorship”
Rockclimber88 on
Techno feudalism, and the governments are complicit
SaberHaven on
Breaking: People with power work to gather more power. Not seen since every day in the last 10,000 years!
Sideshow_Bob_Ross on
Quietly? Like a giant bullhorn on the mountain top kind of quiet.
sutroheights on
We need to politely, but firmly outlaw billionaires. And change the public’s view of it from successful businessmen to gluttonous danger to society. they are Smaug, effectively. So, you get to 999,999,999 and you’re cut off. The rest goes to the government to fund things needed by the country. They still have enough to jet around, but not enough to pull this kind of shit.
AstroRanger36 on
I feel like there is a term for “Corporate Dictatorship” already… it’s on the tip of my tongue. If only we’d already been through something like this to head it off.
kyleh0 on
This is really shocking! We should keep being mad at each other while they take it all away.
BlaqJaq on
> Sci-fi author: In my book, I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale
> Tech Billionaire: At long last, we created the Torment Nexus from the classic Sci-fi novel “Don’t create the Torment Nexus”
TechBros keep trying to make a cyberpunk reality without realizing that they’re the villain in all those stories.
Appropriate-Term7995 on
They have already done it. They’re dabbing on us folks. Wouldn’t have mattered who won the election, but under Darnell they just flexing
Cool_Being_7590 on
Hi? Hello. What did you think the end point of capitalism was?
stellae-fons on
They all need to be in prison and have their assets liquidated and given to homeless people while they’re forced to watch.
larrychatfield on
This isn’t an accusation. It’s clear and present danger. It’s happening and has been citizens United was passed. Real questions can it even be fixed (answer is likely no w/o its repeal) and so a full on aggressive posture needs to be taken
ozzykp06 on
Why do these grifters think they are so much better and smarter than everyone else. If you listen to most of them speak they are sweaty, stuttering buffoons that throw out philosophy from the first to chapters of freshmen reading. Take Thiel for instance, all he did was create lay away online. Zuckerberg literally made Myspace for college kids then grew it using an exclusivity based marketing mix.
None of what they do is that creative. They just have a lot of money and we have this absurd idea that makes someone intelligent.
Even if they somehow manage to obtain the control and power they crave, it’s going to be like a dumb kid finding his dad’s loaded gun for the first time and thinking it’s a toy.
If you hate people so much and have all that money just get an island and keep to yourself. It’s not that hard. All these guys are, are the weird dudes from high school that nobody liked. They weren’t jocks, band kids, theater nerds, cool kids, stoners, or anybody with their own crowd. Just the weirdos that made noises in class then got angry when people called their asinine ideas dumb.
God they piss me off so much.
Hopefulwaters on
Quiet?
Lol. It has been a huge failure of multiple administrations to let these billionaires come into existence with their monopolies. It is a complete shame that the antitrust laws have not been enforced for decades.
Libertyler on
“Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power.” -Benito Mussolini (creator of fascism)
JoeyRW on
A tale as old as time. . .
After being feed on by these parasites, I’m getting hungry, and they’re lookin’ nice and plump.
AggroPro on
Elon took an axe to the entire federal government and you call this “quietly” ?
WaltEnterprises on
They’re not quiet about it. The people they’re trying to enslave are.
edudley909 on
Remember how cool blade runner was, we can all be Rick Deckards.
Secure-Window-5478 on
Wow, someone figured out what every sci-fi writers have been predicting for DECADES! We have all known what greedy fucks want.
issamaysinalah on
Shh, just look and observe, Americans are discovering class war and dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
DaBigJMoney on
Accused of? This is exactly what they’re doing. And they’re not being quiet about it at all.
ShenmeNamaeSollich on
This was already common knowledge months ago before the election. There was that whole viral video about it & JD Vance quoting Yarvin verbatim. It was the suspected rationale behind Trump wanting to invade fucking Greenland & Canada all of a sudden – to take land for future billionaire feudal states.
metengrinwi on
What’s doubly irritating is these billionaires aren’t even building anything impressive—it’s just some computer code and a lot of advertisements. At least the robber barons built things that were real, and actually useful.
Special_Brief4465 on
I’ve just read the phrase “Nerd Reich” and need to lie down.
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In a world increasingly ruled by tech companies, some of the industry’s most powerful figures appear to be quietly drafting blueprints for the near future. There’s just one catch: it may or may not be a democratic one.
In an interview on “Decoder,” a podcast by The Verge, tech journalist Gil Duran outlines a disturbing theory that a growing number of Silicon Valley elites are pursuing a vision of power not rooted in the common good, but in profit, feudal hierarchy, and total control of the platforms that define daily life for hundreds of millions of people.
Duran dubs this emerging ideology the “Nerd Reich” — a slurry of right-wing ideas championed by ruthless tech overlords like Palantir founder Peter Thiel, Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk, venture capitalist Marc Andreessen, and cryptocurrency titan Brian Armstrong, with some OpenAI CEO Sam Altman sprinkled in for good measure. Drawing on the reactionary writings of Curtis “Mencius Moldbug” Yarvin and the cryptolibertarianism of tech investor Balaji Srinivasan, this philosophy isn’t explicitly outlined by our billionaire overlords, but is nonetheless a useful framework that explains their increasingly undemocratic actions.
The fuck is this?
They’re not being quiet about it.
Or, hear me out, OBVIOUSLY working to implement “Corporate Dictatorship”
Please just buy your weird islands wherever, found your weird not-nations or kingdoms or whatever and leave us alone. Why tf do you have to take our democracies down with you?
What quiet? They’ve been bragging about this for years. Thiel especially had done a lot to move in that direction.
The vast majority of history has been the wealthy playing out their fantasies while everyone else tries to survive them.
it’s only quiet if you’re not paying a modicum of attention.
I don’t know guys, kinda sounds like treason to me.
Quietly? QUIETLY? Are we living in the same reality? They have a flashing neon sign and searchlights with fireworks, cheerleaders and mascots.
They actually want to take it even further than that and have feudal mega cities that are independently run but with the President becoming the ultimate CEO figure. It’s the long term plan for Project 25.
[Dark Maga Gothic](https://youtu.be/5RpPTRcz1no?si=VdUnEi-9W2okTBBT)
This video was originally released right before the election and if I saw I then, I would’ve scoffed at it and said these people are crazy. But, I saw it in February with my jaw hitting the floor because a lot of it was already coming to shape even that early on.
Tech bros are psychotic and want to absolutely destroy America so they can play God.
Remember if the goals of this darkness are being brought to reality by “Invisible Forces”, then we are going to have a hard time proving individuals are culpable, on their own.
BUT WE CAN’T LET THIS STOP US FROM FIGHTING AGAINST THIS CLEAR ATTACK ON US! It does exist and it is happening. (We don’t have to prove that they are actively planning this shyt at Davos and at San Francisco steakhouses.
Getting closer and closer to Cyberpunk’s dystopia every day.
So they saw cyberpunk games and books and saw that as good idea.
Google Dark MAGA Gothic for the abc plan of attack.
It’s the 19th century repeating with tech everywhere
Also, water is wet.
This has been in progress for decades…
Was coming in to state the same thing. It hasn’t been very hush hush.
We are not a democracy and haven’t been for a long time
This is not the first time the elites in this country have exploited the working class. We are in the midst of a 21st century gilded age. All it takes is enough people to get tired of it and elect politicians whom will bring about a 21st century progressive era.
They’re doing it so quietly their entire plan is public knowledge
They talk about it interviews. Hahaha. Its not quiet. People just dont care
“Accused”? ”Theory”? Thiel admitted it. Musk boasted he was “Dark MAGA”, referencing Yarvin’s “Dark Enlightenment” shit. I can’t recall if that was before or after he Sieg Heiled, twice, in front of of the Presidential Seal. Vance has spoken of being influenced by Yarvin’s ideas, and he’s ultimately their man.
”*I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible*” – Peter Thiel
No shade to OP, I know that in some corners of the wider culture this info has been slow to get to them, or they never heard of “Mencius Moldbug” (lucky bastards) so I don’t object to this info being repeated and disseminated again, hopefully it does reach new audiences; but we are in deep, deep trouble here.
As awful and chaotic as the Trump/redhat MAGA wing is, and as awful as the Project 2025 Heritage Foundation/Vought wing is, there’s ALSO the technofeudalist billionaire wing of this mess – they serve roughly the same function as the weirdo sci-fi-obsessed futurist wings of the old German and Italian fascists of WWII, except with infinite money and near-monopolistic control of the internet service and apps and social media we all use.
America needs to wake the fuck up.
I propose things that violate rule#1 of this group.
Fixed: Tech Billionaires ~~Accused of Quietly~~ Working to Implement “Corporate Dictatorship”
Techno feudalism, and the governments are complicit
Breaking: People with power work to gather more power. Not seen since every day in the last 10,000 years!
Quietly? Like a giant bullhorn on the mountain top kind of quiet.
We need to politely, but firmly outlaw billionaires. And change the public’s view of it from successful businessmen to gluttonous danger to society. they are Smaug, effectively. So, you get to 999,999,999 and you’re cut off. The rest goes to the government to fund things needed by the country. They still have enough to jet around, but not enough to pull this kind of shit.
I feel like there is a term for “Corporate Dictatorship” already… it’s on the tip of my tongue. If only we’d already been through something like this to head it off.
This is really shocking! We should keep being mad at each other while they take it all away.
> Sci-fi author: In my book, I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale
> Tech Billionaire: At long last, we created the Torment Nexus from the classic Sci-fi novel “Don’t create the Torment Nexus”
TechBros keep trying to make a cyberpunk reality without realizing that they’re the villain in all those stories.
They have already done it. They’re dabbing on us folks. Wouldn’t have mattered who won the election, but under Darnell they just flexing
Hi? Hello. What did you think the end point of capitalism was?
They all need to be in prison and have their assets liquidated and given to homeless people while they’re forced to watch.
This isn’t an accusation. It’s clear and present danger. It’s happening and has been citizens United was passed. Real questions can it even be fixed (answer is likely no w/o its repeal) and so a full on aggressive posture needs to be taken
Why do these grifters think they are so much better and smarter than everyone else. If you listen to most of them speak they are sweaty, stuttering buffoons that throw out philosophy from the first to chapters of freshmen reading. Take Thiel for instance, all he did was create lay away online. Zuckerberg literally made Myspace for college kids then grew it using an exclusivity based marketing mix.
None of what they do is that creative. They just have a lot of money and we have this absurd idea that makes someone intelligent.
Even if they somehow manage to obtain the control and power they crave, it’s going to be like a dumb kid finding his dad’s loaded gun for the first time and thinking it’s a toy.
If you hate people so much and have all that money just get an island and keep to yourself. It’s not that hard. All these guys are, are the weird dudes from high school that nobody liked. They weren’t jocks, band kids, theater nerds, cool kids, stoners, or anybody with their own crowd. Just the weirdos that made noises in class then got angry when people called their asinine ideas dumb.
God they piss me off so much.
Quiet?
Lol. It has been a huge failure of multiple administrations to let these billionaires come into existence with their monopolies. It is a complete shame that the antitrust laws have not been enforced for decades.
“Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power.” -Benito Mussolini (creator of fascism)
A tale as old as time. . .
After being feed on by these parasites, I’m getting hungry, and they’re lookin’ nice and plump.
Elon took an axe to the entire federal government and you call this “quietly” ?
They’re not quiet about it. The people they’re trying to enslave are.
Remember how cool blade runner was, we can all be Rick Deckards.
Wow, someone figured out what every sci-fi writers have been predicting for DECADES! We have all known what greedy fucks want.
Shh, just look and observe, Americans are discovering class war and dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
Accused of? This is exactly what they’re doing. And they’re not being quiet about it at all.
This was already common knowledge months ago before the election. There was that whole viral video about it & JD Vance quoting Yarvin verbatim. It was the suspected rationale behind Trump wanting to invade fucking Greenland & Canada all of a sudden – to take land for future billionaire feudal states.
What’s doubly irritating is these billionaires aren’t even building anything impressive—it’s just some computer code and a lot of advertisements. At least the robber barons built things that were real, and actually useful.
I’ve just read the phrase “Nerd Reich” and need to lie down.