Yeah well join the club, find me someone who isn’t struggling financially. Asking for another 28% rise is ridiculous imo.
PixelThinking on
So long as their earnings are higher than a majority of people, which even at entry level they are, it’s going to be hard to gain much more sympathy from the public from strike action unfortunately.
Edit: just to be clear, I’m not against paying them more, I’m just sharing the mood I gauge around it
DevOfTheTimes on
Pretty sure everyone’s wage has stagnated to fuck in the uk. Also they just got a massive pay rise
No_March5195 on
Aren’t the starting salaries like 40k? And rising into the 60-70k range with experience? Good luck getting public sympathy
TheLyam on
When we are losing people in this field to the likes of Australia, we need to find ways of getting them to stay.
LJ-696 on
Got to love when your assistant, that can do far less, is somehow paid more.
fanglord on
I think what makes it worse than it should be, is that a lot of the subsidies that help with the expected relocation and low wages have been sold off – like Doctors accommodation.
Longbeardstinkypants on
Always interesting to see how many bitter people are against these doctors pay increases then have the gall to complain about the state of the NHS who are losing all their young doctors overseas.
Why would a young doctor not move to Australia and double their wage and work in a system that values them?
Why would our best and brightest go into medicine when they can go work for a private company in a different sector, earn a lot more cash, a lot quicker and with a hell of a lot less study, work and stress?
WIlliamOD1406 on
From knowing people who have done medical degrees the primary reason for losing doctors to Australia isn’t the pay, but the lack of specialty training positions. There’s plenty of positions for doctors to complete their FY1, FY2, but it’s extremely competitive to progress in the field.
To be competitive for these Uk roles, doctors are expected to have a few years experience, so they go to Australia for a year or two.
pringellover9553 on
Theirs and everyone else’s, whole country needs to strike
AgainstGreaterOdds on
Somehow we care about millionaires pseudo leaving the country but not actual doctors who have a massive impact on our lives. Tax the rich.
TomVonServo on
The way this entire island has somehow tacitly agreed that everyone deserves to just gargle piss for wages never ceases to amaze.
klepto_entropoid on
Everyone’s pay has. Its easier to measure in the NHS and effects mostly the “professional” pay bandings ie what used to be the middle class 5-8. The current average salary in the UK is 38k. The average salary in 2007 in the UK was 24k. Adjusted for inflation that is equivalent to 41k.
Cost of living and housing have sure as hell been *adjusted* since 2007.
We are all getting absolutely rinsed in the UK on PAYE but none more than the “squeezed” middle income earners.
Doctors will strike and will get yet another “better” pay deal than everyone else because they always strike and they always fight for a bigger slice of less.
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Yeah well join the club, find me someone who isn’t struggling financially. Asking for another 28% rise is ridiculous imo.
So long as their earnings are higher than a majority of people, which even at entry level they are, it’s going to be hard to gain much more sympathy from the public from strike action unfortunately.
Edit: just to be clear, I’m not against paying them more, I’m just sharing the mood I gauge around it
Pretty sure everyone’s wage has stagnated to fuck in the uk. Also they just got a massive pay rise
Aren’t the starting salaries like 40k? And rising into the 60-70k range with experience? Good luck getting public sympathy
When we are losing people in this field to the likes of Australia, we need to find ways of getting them to stay.
Got to love when your assistant, that can do far less, is somehow paid more.
I think what makes it worse than it should be, is that a lot of the subsidies that help with the expected relocation and low wages have been sold off – like Doctors accommodation.
Always interesting to see how many bitter people are against these doctors pay increases then have the gall to complain about the state of the NHS who are losing all their young doctors overseas.
Why would a young doctor not move to Australia and double their wage and work in a system that values them?
Why would our best and brightest go into medicine when they can go work for a private company in a different sector, earn a lot more cash, a lot quicker and with a hell of a lot less study, work and stress?
From knowing people who have done medical degrees the primary reason for losing doctors to Australia isn’t the pay, but the lack of specialty training positions. There’s plenty of positions for doctors to complete their FY1, FY2, but it’s extremely competitive to progress in the field.
To be competitive for these Uk roles, doctors are expected to have a few years experience, so they go to Australia for a year or two.
Theirs and everyone else’s, whole country needs to strike
Somehow we care about millionaires pseudo leaving the country but not actual doctors who have a massive impact on our lives. Tax the rich.
The way this entire island has somehow tacitly agreed that everyone deserves to just gargle piss for wages never ceases to amaze.
Everyone’s pay has. Its easier to measure in the NHS and effects mostly the “professional” pay bandings ie what used to be the middle class 5-8. The current average salary in the UK is 38k. The average salary in 2007 in the UK was 24k. Adjusted for inflation that is equivalent to 41k.
Cost of living and housing have sure as hell been *adjusted* since 2007.
We are all getting absolutely rinsed in the UK on PAYE but none more than the “squeezed” middle income earners.
Doctors will strike and will get yet another “better” pay deal than everyone else because they always strike and they always fight for a bigger slice of less.