This is a consequence of focusing on producing housing rapidly and allowing developers to do what they want. It sounds like people are aware of the avenues available to force developers to build amenities into their plans though.
Physical-Staff1411 on
So the council have taken years to agree the revised planning permission delaying the park.
And The developer, Vistry, points out that under its planning agreement it does not have to build a shop, pub or nursery.
So local council surprised that their own actions has delayed a park being built. And surprised Vistry haven’t built a pub at their own expense.
Here’s an idea, why don’t Braintree
Allocate some of the £2.2m they’re currently holding in unallocated S106 payments
To build infrastructure. Or speed through the allocated £1.6m they’re holding. Or organise themselves and introduce CIL?
JayR_97 on
This is why people end up protesting new housing developments where local amenities are already stretched to the limit. It’s easy to just right them off as NIMBYs but if I was already struggling to get a doctor’s appointment because all the GPs are oversubscribed I wouldn’t want an extra 200 houses added to the town either
xylophileuk on
This is most of the nimby complaints too. They want to build houses near me, there’s a petition going round to stop it. They list all these things.
Thing is, they won’t build a shop until the houses show demand, same with busses and schools.
The_Sherminator2 on
And on the other hand, there’s an absolutely massive housing estate being built where I live and the council have announced their closing the high school down that’s *literally right next to it due to the number of pupils being at “half capacity”*.
StiffAssedBrit on
Even when planners insist on amenities being built into developments, the developers always find ways to get out of installing them.
HMWYA on
Yeah, but we can’t allow people to have basic amenities near their homes, because then right-wingers will start crying about 15 minute cities making it illegal to use your car, or whatever conspiracy theory they’re buying into about sensible town planning this week.
PixieBaronicsi on
The government has a duty to fund schools.
Banning house building in order to avoid their responsibilities is just crap.
It’s just another strategy that some people will wheel out in their never-ending crusade to drive up house prices
ok_not_badform on
Just to add in my local area, my council is above the government target of new builds by 560%. But they’ve not made any new schools, doctors, dentists or road improvements. Also the company in charge of the new builds have blamed local businesses for not supporting the growth and pricing them. They have also left new build streets without lighting, parking, paths and roads. So all these people who have bought them are living in a building site. UK’s fucked
ItsSprite99 on
I would gladly exchange no amenities for dead money in rent.
I’m going to die having paid millions of quid’s worth of other people’s mortgages with nothing for myself.
Isn’t this just another round of global slavery with a few extra steps? Even slaves get fed, watered and shelter.
DiligentCockroach700 on
This is happening near me, too. Loads of new houses being built on greenfield land but no doctors, schools or shops. The nearest Drs surgery is already oversubscribed and not accepting new patients
Donkerz85 on
I work in construction and the amount of these housing projects that are built as cheaply as possibly to maximise profit and seemingly don’t give a damn about actual quality of life when you’re living in them is a disgrace.
Sir_Henry_Deadman on
You need teachers and space for the schools
You need people who can afford to open a shop
Both of these are lacking as much as property
shizola_owns on
I have lots of friends in a new build estate near me. Over 1,000 houses, and it literally has 2 bins.
Catch_0x16 on
It’s a real issue in my area. They pass the public consultation period by proposing schools and shops, then change their pans after approval is granted, and the council let them get away with it because they’re afraid that standing up for local citizens might cause the developers to go elsewhere. It’s pathetic.
Here’s an idea, if a developer has proposed local amenities with their houses (to get through planning), these should be the first buildings built, and no homes can be sold until they are finished? Doesn’t seem that unfair to me.
HarmadeusZex on
Its future I am afraid. Its going to get only worse
AkihabaraWasteland on
Nothing to do with the contractors, and probably not even the developers. It’s the council planning committees that are at fault.
Verbal_v2 on
I guess it’s more profitable to squeeze the absolute maximum amount of houses onto whatever parcel of land the developers have bought up and keep the “Infrastructure” to building a mini roundabout onto the closest A or B road.
I bet everyone knows of at least development near them where this is the case.
Inglorious555 on
This is why I don’t like it when people use the term “NIMBY” towards anyone who isn’t a fan of this
I remember getting torn to shreds on Facebook for pointing this out ages ago, the village I lived in for a number of years everything was already overstretched, roads were so busy to the point where it doesn’t have a village vibe and they were proposing building hundreds of houses without any new schools, doctors, dentists, shops or useful roads to alleviate the extra traffic it would bring, if none of these were a thing I’d have no complaints other than it being on the biggest public field this village has unless you walk for miles out of the village, I’ve witnessed this happening to other areas too over time, I’m glad I jumped ship and moved elsewhere
Vivid_Departure_8948 on
Not surprised. There have been two big housing developments near me. Neither have had any thought of non-drivers put into them- no bus routes, one has really poor pedestrian access. They just want to shove them up as fast as possible and never mind who needs amenities.
Jeets79 on
I split with my wife and the only house I could afford for me and my two daughters is in the middle of a “new build” development from about 20 years ago. The house isn’t amazing but as I’m stuck renting beggars can’t be choosers.
The real beef is how the nearest shop from me is a 10 min drive. There are no little paper shops / corner / convenience stores nearby, you have to drive to either the petrol station or the big Morrisons!
Ivorsune on
This only reminds me of the same sort of problem in the US. Huge estates filled with new builds, but the only shop is a 10-15min walk away, and anything larger than a Premier needs a bus or car to get to. In the US its not so bad because almost literally everyone drives, but driving is getting less popular in the UK, atleast amount the youth.
baldy-84 on
I don’t see why it should be put on a company building houses to provide the basic infrastructure that the state is supposed to be taxing us to provide. It’s no wonder new builds cost a fucking bomb when they’re also expected to be building free schools and playgrounds for our lazy, incompetent government.
ProfessorUnhappy5997 on
# ‘No shops, no schools’
Just lil rabbit-hutch houses to warehouse people ‘The Borg style’
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This is a consequence of focusing on producing housing rapidly and allowing developers to do what they want. It sounds like people are aware of the avenues available to force developers to build amenities into their plans though.
So the council have taken years to agree the revised planning permission delaying the park.
And The developer, Vistry, points out that under its planning agreement it does not have to build a shop, pub or nursery.
So local council surprised that their own actions has delayed a park being built. And surprised Vistry haven’t built a pub at their own expense.
Here’s an idea, why don’t Braintree
Allocate some of the £2.2m they’re currently holding in unallocated S106 payments
To build infrastructure. Or speed through the allocated £1.6m they’re holding. Or organise themselves and introduce CIL?
This is why people end up protesting new housing developments where local amenities are already stretched to the limit. It’s easy to just right them off as NIMBYs but if I was already struggling to get a doctor’s appointment because all the GPs are oversubscribed I wouldn’t want an extra 200 houses added to the town either
This is most of the nimby complaints too. They want to build houses near me, there’s a petition going round to stop it. They list all these things.
Thing is, they won’t build a shop until the houses show demand, same with busses and schools.
And on the other hand, there’s an absolutely massive housing estate being built where I live and the council have announced their closing the high school down that’s *literally right next to it due to the number of pupils being at “half capacity”*.
Even when planners insist on amenities being built into developments, the developers always find ways to get out of installing them.
Yeah, but we can’t allow people to have basic amenities near their homes, because then right-wingers will start crying about 15 minute cities making it illegal to use your car, or whatever conspiracy theory they’re buying into about sensible town planning this week.
The government has a duty to fund schools.
Banning house building in order to avoid their responsibilities is just crap.
It’s just another strategy that some people will wheel out in their never-ending crusade to drive up house prices
Just to add in my local area, my council is above the government target of new builds by 560%. But they’ve not made any new schools, doctors, dentists or road improvements. Also the company in charge of the new builds have blamed local businesses for not supporting the growth and pricing them. They have also left new build streets without lighting, parking, paths and roads. So all these people who have bought them are living in a building site. UK’s fucked
I would gladly exchange no amenities for dead money in rent.
I’m going to die having paid millions of quid’s worth of other people’s mortgages with nothing for myself.
Isn’t this just another round of global slavery with a few extra steps? Even slaves get fed, watered and shelter.
This is happening near me, too. Loads of new houses being built on greenfield land but no doctors, schools or shops. The nearest Drs surgery is already oversubscribed and not accepting new patients
I work in construction and the amount of these housing projects that are built as cheaply as possibly to maximise profit and seemingly don’t give a damn about actual quality of life when you’re living in them is a disgrace.
You need teachers and space for the schools
You need people who can afford to open a shop
Both of these are lacking as much as property
I have lots of friends in a new build estate near me. Over 1,000 houses, and it literally has 2 bins.
It’s a real issue in my area. They pass the public consultation period by proposing schools and shops, then change their pans after approval is granted, and the council let them get away with it because they’re afraid that standing up for local citizens might cause the developers to go elsewhere. It’s pathetic.
Here’s an idea, if a developer has proposed local amenities with their houses (to get through planning), these should be the first buildings built, and no homes can be sold until they are finished? Doesn’t seem that unfair to me.
Its future I am afraid. Its going to get only worse
Nothing to do with the contractors, and probably not even the developers. It’s the council planning committees that are at fault.
I guess it’s more profitable to squeeze the absolute maximum amount of houses onto whatever parcel of land the developers have bought up and keep the “Infrastructure” to building a mini roundabout onto the closest A or B road.
I bet everyone knows of at least development near them where this is the case.
This is why I don’t like it when people use the term “NIMBY” towards anyone who isn’t a fan of this
I remember getting torn to shreds on Facebook for pointing this out ages ago, the village I lived in for a number of years everything was already overstretched, roads were so busy to the point where it doesn’t have a village vibe and they were proposing building hundreds of houses without any new schools, doctors, dentists, shops or useful roads to alleviate the extra traffic it would bring, if none of these were a thing I’d have no complaints other than it being on the biggest public field this village has unless you walk for miles out of the village, I’ve witnessed this happening to other areas too over time, I’m glad I jumped ship and moved elsewhere
Not surprised. There have been two big housing developments near me. Neither have had any thought of non-drivers put into them- no bus routes, one has really poor pedestrian access. They just want to shove them up as fast as possible and never mind who needs amenities.
I split with my wife and the only house I could afford for me and my two daughters is in the middle of a “new build” development from about 20 years ago. The house isn’t amazing but as I’m stuck renting beggars can’t be choosers.
The real beef is how the nearest shop from me is a 10 min drive. There are no little paper shops / corner / convenience stores nearby, you have to drive to either the petrol station or the big Morrisons!
This only reminds me of the same sort of problem in the US. Huge estates filled with new builds, but the only shop is a 10-15min walk away, and anything larger than a Premier needs a bus or car to get to. In the US its not so bad because almost literally everyone drives, but driving is getting less popular in the UK, atleast amount the youth.
I don’t see why it should be put on a company building houses to provide the basic infrastructure that the state is supposed to be taxing us to provide. It’s no wonder new builds cost a fucking bomb when they’re also expected to be building free schools and playgrounds for our lazy, incompetent government.
# ‘No shops, no schools’
Just lil rabbit-hutch houses to warehouse people ‘The Borg style’