Have they just gone mask off misogynist or is the headline wrong?
Aspect-Unusual on
That headline sounds harsh, all single-sex spaces?
But with a serious comment for a second here, this sort of thing is what lead to a good friend of mine to take her own life, where she was from trans women were banned from women only spaces and men didn’t want her in their spaces either, so much so that she would get beatings when trying to use the toilet so in the end she stopped using public restrooms.
The rhetoric got so bad that her parents didn’t want her to use the families main bathroom when guests where in the house incase they saw her use it and didn’t want her to be in the house alone with her younger brother incase she influenced him and it was soon after that incident where she took her own life.
Edit: Thank you for the DMs, to answer your questions this was a few years ago and shes sorely missed
Ochib on
**services will be allowed to request birth certificates to ensure single-sex services are protected.**
So if you are a CIS female who doesn’t conform to the expectation of someone’s model of being female, you will need to bring a birth certificate to use the toilets in a cinema.
Also some trans women have had their birth certificate changed to reflect their correct gender
SensitivePotato44 on
Equality. You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
Skeet_fighter on
We really are TERF Island aren’t we?
Fucking disgusing. I feel like every week there’s a new reason to be ashamed of this country.
Nima-night on
More discrimination at government level they are already of a watch list for genocide against transgender people in Europe They are 1% of the population the government is trying to eradicate from society like in Russia.
The government needs to stop it’s constant bullying of a tiny minority of people and leave them alone to get on with their lives.
Broccoli--Enthusiast on
Why are we becoming so evil…
The world is heading down a sad path.
S4mb741 on
I’m sure the women who don’t want to share spaces with trans women will be so much happier when they get to share them with trans men instead.
irving_braxiatel on
They can fuck off. Unless they’re going to start checking the genitals and paperwork of every who uses the women’s toilets, they’ve no chance of enforcing this.
Haytham_Ken on
I’m very quickly becoming ashamed of my country. It’s like we’ve lost our compassion and empathy.
Sir_Henry_Deadman on
I don’t quite believe the equality watchdog knows what it’s job is
New plan… Ban ALL single sex spaces… Everything is individual, toilets, changing rooms, whatever else is broken up by biological sex for no reason
BKole on
I think whats telling in this is that it’s always Trans-Women. The focus is always on M2F trans people and its mental.
My Brother in Law seems to think all Trans people want to go into toilets to assault and look at other peoples genitals. The perception of what it is to be trans and what it feels like is utterly ignored to cater to the feelings of people who cant dont and wont understand.
Its a fucking travesty and a society level hate crime.
As ive said to my Bil;
Trans people want to do a wee or a poo. Thats it.
Ive never seen a guy in a bog looking at someone’s genitals, or even seen anyones genitals at in a bot in 40 years or life.
Hes never ever met a trans person, what would he know?
pi-pa on
This government is turning full fascist.
Instead of taxing the oh so precious billionaires they go after every far right hoax there is which of course isn’t gonna solve anything.
They’re trying to beat Reform by becoming Reform themselves.
Labour will never get my vote ever again. Neither will any other mainstream party. Time to vote independent.
Panda_hat on
Congrats TERFs, you’ve made life worse for objectively every woman, and made questioning their gender socially enforced.
Women will now be judged at all times in terms of their value and utility to the patriachy, and punished and harassed should they not meet beauty standards or conform to gender expectations.
Society will now be actively hostile to GNC women.
Panda_hat on
>A source with knowledge of the consultation told The Times: “The law is the law, and the law’s not going to change.”
It just did though, why can’t it change again?
>Campaigners have accused the EHRC of “ignoring” their views because it used artificial intelligence to categorise the replies to the consultation. Insiders said this was a practice that had been rolled out across government departments to save civil servants’ time.
A source at a national LGBT organisation familiar with the guidance said: “The EHRC received 50,000 responses to its consultation, and to consider them all in the past 27 working days would have required reviewing over 1,850 submissions a day.
Of course they did. The venn diagram of bigots and deepthroating AI is a circle.
710733 on
For full avoidance of doubt, since it gets shouted down whenever this topic gets brought up in this sub:
This is the the *most* regressive position on this among all countries in Western Europe.
Looking at Europe as a whole, the only countries with a more regressive position on trans people are Russia, Georgia, Hungary and Bulgaria.
Kijamon on
Men’s spaces will be rebranded to “Other” and become the catch all.
Then some men won’t use those services due to being uncomfortable.
If a rich bellend with nothing better to do except post on Twitter gets involved then the cycle will start again
JB_JB_JB63 on
Equality. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
External-Piccolo-626 on
You never hear about banning trans men from men’s toilets, or trans men shouldn’t compete in men’s sports do we. After all we’ve heard about equality, it really does feel that men are the fairer sex. Maybe it’s women that need to worry about gender equality.
winmace on
I wonder what posseses certain people to be so hateful and vindictive they go to these lengths.
Mazuna on
Where are the ghouls who have popped up on this sub on basically every trans story? Are you happy now?
evolveandprosper on
Are they going to have genital inspectors at the door? “Show me your fanny or you ain’t getting in!”
nolinearbanana on
What a nice provocative headline eh?
Actual advice given:
“The statutory guidance will spell out that transgender competitors can be excluded from single-sex sporting competitions and that it would be reasonable for a woman to object to the presence of a transgender woman if she will be getting undressed or in a vulnerable situation.”
No instruction to “ban” trans women from all single-sex spaces whatsoever – that is neither desirable nor actually workable.
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Have they just gone mask off misogynist or is the headline wrong?
That headline sounds harsh, all single-sex spaces?
But with a serious comment for a second here, this sort of thing is what lead to a good friend of mine to take her own life, where she was from trans women were banned from women only spaces and men didn’t want her in their spaces either, so much so that she would get beatings when trying to use the toilet so in the end she stopped using public restrooms.
The rhetoric got so bad that her parents didn’t want her to use the families main bathroom when guests where in the house incase they saw her use it and didn’t want her to be in the house alone with her younger brother incase she influenced him and it was soon after that incident where she took her own life.
Edit: Thank you for the DMs, to answer your questions this was a few years ago and shes sorely missed
**services will be allowed to request birth certificates to ensure single-sex services are protected.**
So if you are a CIS female who doesn’t conform to the expectation of someone’s model of being female, you will need to bring a birth certificate to use the toilets in a cinema.
Also some trans women have had their birth certificate changed to reflect their correct gender
Equality. You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
We really are TERF Island aren’t we?
Fucking disgusing. I feel like every week there’s a new reason to be ashamed of this country.
More discrimination at government level they are already of a watch list for genocide against transgender people in Europe They are 1% of the population the government is trying to eradicate from society like in Russia.
The government needs to stop it’s constant bullying of a tiny minority of people and leave them alone to get on with their lives.
Why are we becoming so evil…
The world is heading down a sad path.
I’m sure the women who don’t want to share spaces with trans women will be so much happier when they get to share them with trans men instead.
They can fuck off. Unless they’re going to start checking the genitals and paperwork of every who uses the women’s toilets, they’ve no chance of enforcing this.
I’m very quickly becoming ashamed of my country. It’s like we’ve lost our compassion and empathy.
I don’t quite believe the equality watchdog knows what it’s job is
New plan… Ban ALL single sex spaces… Everything is individual, toilets, changing rooms, whatever else is broken up by biological sex for no reason
I think whats telling in this is that it’s always Trans-Women. The focus is always on M2F trans people and its mental.
My Brother in Law seems to think all Trans people want to go into toilets to assault and look at other peoples genitals. The perception of what it is to be trans and what it feels like is utterly ignored to cater to the feelings of people who cant dont and wont understand.
Its a fucking travesty and a society level hate crime.
As ive said to my Bil;
Trans people want to do a wee or a poo. Thats it.
Ive never seen a guy in a bog looking at someone’s genitals, or even seen anyones genitals at in a bot in 40 years or life.
Hes never ever met a trans person, what would he know?
This government is turning full fascist.
Instead of taxing the oh so precious billionaires they go after every far right hoax there is which of course isn’t gonna solve anything.
They’re trying to beat Reform by becoming Reform themselves.
Labour will never get my vote ever again. Neither will any other mainstream party. Time to vote independent.
Congrats TERFs, you’ve made life worse for objectively every woman, and made questioning their gender socially enforced.
Women will now be judged at all times in terms of their value and utility to the patriachy, and punished and harassed should they not meet beauty standards or conform to gender expectations.
Society will now be actively hostile to GNC women.
>A source with knowledge of the consultation told The Times: “The law is the law, and the law’s not going to change.”
It just did though, why can’t it change again?
>Campaigners have accused the EHRC of “ignoring” their views because it used artificial intelligence to categorise the replies to the consultation. Insiders said this was a practice that had been rolled out across government departments to save civil servants’ time.
A source at a national LGBT organisation familiar with the guidance said: “The EHRC received 50,000 responses to its consultation, and to consider them all in the past 27 working days would have required reviewing over 1,850 submissions a day.
Of course they did. The venn diagram of bigots and deepthroating AI is a circle.
For full avoidance of doubt, since it gets shouted down whenever this topic gets brought up in this sub:
This is the the *most* regressive position on this among all countries in Western Europe.
Looking at Europe as a whole, the only countries with a more regressive position on trans people are Russia, Georgia, Hungary and Bulgaria.
Men’s spaces will be rebranded to “Other” and become the catch all.
Then some men won’t use those services due to being uncomfortable.
If a rich bellend with nothing better to do except post on Twitter gets involved then the cycle will start again
Equality. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
You never hear about banning trans men from men’s toilets, or trans men shouldn’t compete in men’s sports do we. After all we’ve heard about equality, it really does feel that men are the fairer sex. Maybe it’s women that need to worry about gender equality.
I wonder what posseses certain people to be so hateful and vindictive they go to these lengths.
Where are the ghouls who have popped up on this sub on basically every trans story? Are you happy now?
Are they going to have genital inspectors at the door? “Show me your fanny or you ain’t getting in!”
What a nice provocative headline eh?
Actual advice given:
“The statutory guidance will spell out that transgender competitors can be excluded from single-sex sporting competitions and that it would be reasonable for a woman to object to the presence of a transgender woman if she will be getting undressed or in a vulnerable situation.”
No instruction to “ban” trans women from all single-sex spaces whatsoever – that is neither desirable nor actually workable.