It does appear that the definition we get for “islamophobia” will for all intents and purposes be a blasphemy law by the back door. If we are going back to 1922 (the last successful prosecution for blasphemy), make it a blanket law so when Muslim preachers criticize Judaism or Christianity they can be prosecuted as well.
Seems pretty fair to me we either have blasphemy laws or we don’t one religion shouldn’t benefit over the others
davinist on
What’s the point in defining Islamaphobia, to create a legal framework, while much of the Muslim community still wants to use Sharia courts, using the Koran, to decide their legal disputes? Do they want their own cake to eat, and also everyone else’s?
beach-chicken10 on
Why are they so quick to speak up and look foolish and ignorant. They have the information at their fingertips.
She is a Peer appointed to the working group seeking to define Islamophobia for the Government. She calls out the wrong police force, the officers were cleared of wrong doing.
Knee jerk reaction like this shows clear bias when the working group is meant to be unbiased and working to fact, not uninformed opinion
Humble_Local_2954 on
‘Ministers have faced criticism amid concerns that the current proposals to define Islamophobia could have a “chilling effect” on free speech.’
To make this equatable for everyone surely you’d need to define other protected characteristics and subset characteristics in the same way?
EdmundTheInsulter on
Is this the police they said may still be sacked? Don’t you think the manner of the initial arrest attempt seemed odd?
Boiling_warm on
How much money are we spending on dipshits to redefine islamophobia?
Material_Angle2922 on
Islamophobia is the new battle cry to call their community for support. It is far reaching and more powerful. If I remember correctly there was a rally after the incident against the police demanding justice for those two idiots… until the full video was “leaked”. The Muslim Brummie wannabe politician suddenly dropped them as clients.
PatrickTheSosij on
I can see the future stories in 15 years time. And it’s not looking good.
ProAtTresspass on
There’s no such thing as islamophobia it’s a conspiracy theory.
HovercraftNo6046 on
Islam is invading the UK by stealth. Its not Islamophobic if there is legitimate criticism of Islam.
Icy-Professor3187 on
How did this muppet get to be a peer?
We are fast tracking people into positions of authority based off nothing more than immutable characteristics.
How’s about we go back to merit?
homeruleforneasden on
Does the Telegraph ever publish any articles that are not rage bait for the racists?
Bubbly_District_107 on
Muslim defends Islamic violence and attacks police stopping it. What a shock.
forthewokefolk on
islam is an evil religion that plans to take over and eliminate all our rights, simple as that
Tasty_Importance_216 on
I really don’t see how this is going to be legal tbh. I engaged with one of the people that sit on the board. And from speaking to him he seems to be suggesting that people should accept the narrative of Islam. But that is telling people what to think. For example Islam might present some of Muhammad actions as moral because of the time etc etc a bit like when people try a claim that colonialism was a good thing because it brought education to the region. But the narrative is an opinion. Some people might not share that that opinion.
A perfect example is Muhammed marriage/relationship with his concubine. Maryam the whole story is insane. The narrative is that she later became a Muslim so it should be seen as a good thing. Okay but no one will accept the narrative if it was some Texas slave owner having sexual relations with their slave. But it will be Islamophobia to find Muhammed relationship with his Coptic concubine morally questionable. Religious Scholar have no right to dictate to us what we should think about their religious ideas. We should be free to make moral judgements about any text or ideas that we read.
I mean if the government goes down this road will they tell Muslims not misrepresent other religions and they should accept the Christian scholar interpretation of their text.
This will drive a wedge in society as it will be seen to give one group of people favourable treatments over others.
My last point people that want to practice their relation on peace should be protected and respected. But there is a political side of Islam that should be rejected in the same way that we should reject Christian nationalism.
RaiderMedic93 on
To the folks in the UK. I am sorry. I wish you luck.
Makes think of that song. Living on a Thin Line from the Kinks
Edit: typo.
IceGripe on
If people start getting arrested for Islamophobia it’s going to cause havoc.
This is a authoritarian law banning speaking about a certain subject. British people are renowned for attacking and undermining authoritarian laws.
This will probably lead to more arrested, and the spiral continues.
The character of a group is often reflected from it’s leader.
Starmer, in my opinion, has no morals. He’s never held any position before changing his mind. He’s like the manchurian candidate, as though someone else is telling him what to say.
boingwater on
I don’t get why the “left” have so much time for an authoritarian ultra conservative ideology that treats women as second class.
We need to be free to crticise any ideology, especially when it’s based on nothing more than the belief in a “god”, that doesn’t exist.
nqlawyer on
I refuse to believe anyone actually believes what they comment here. The level of delusion is crazy.
Weary-Classic7472 on
That’s all they have, funny how thee most intolerant people on earth then claim they’re the victims, we’ve accommodated them, built mosques for them, given them prayer rooms, supported them, covered their crimes up for 40+ years, but as soon as any criticism has happened suddenly they’re the victims, they ethnically cleansed jews and christians from almost 53 countries which are now theirs after violent conquests. A very unlikeable community in my eyes.
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It does appear that the definition we get for “islamophobia” will for all intents and purposes be a blasphemy law by the back door. If we are going back to 1922 (the last successful prosecution for blasphemy), make it a blanket law so when Muslim preachers criticize Judaism or Christianity they can be prosecuted as well.
Seems pretty fair to me we either have blasphemy laws or we don’t one religion shouldn’t benefit over the others
What’s the point in defining Islamaphobia, to create a legal framework, while much of the Muslim community still wants to use Sharia courts, using the Koran, to decide their legal disputes? Do they want their own cake to eat, and also everyone else’s?
Why are they so quick to speak up and look foolish and ignorant. They have the information at their fingertips.
She is a Peer appointed to the working group seeking to define Islamophobia for the Government. She calls out the wrong police force, the officers were cleared of wrong doing.
Knee jerk reaction like this shows clear bias when the working group is meant to be unbiased and working to fact, not uninformed opinion
‘Ministers have faced criticism amid concerns that the current proposals to define Islamophobia could have a “chilling effect” on free speech.’
To make this equatable for everyone surely you’d need to define other protected characteristics and subset characteristics in the same way?
Is this the police they said may still be sacked? Don’t you think the manner of the initial arrest attempt seemed odd?
How much money are we spending on dipshits to redefine islamophobia?
Islamophobia is the new battle cry to call their community for support. It is far reaching and more powerful. If I remember correctly there was a rally after the incident against the police demanding justice for those two idiots… until the full video was “leaked”. The Muslim Brummie wannabe politician suddenly dropped them as clients.
I can see the future stories in 15 years time. And it’s not looking good.
There’s no such thing as islamophobia it’s a conspiracy theory.
Islam is invading the UK by stealth. Its not Islamophobic if there is legitimate criticism of Islam.
How did this muppet get to be a peer?
We are fast tracking people into positions of authority based off nothing more than immutable characteristics.
How’s about we go back to merit?
Does the Telegraph ever publish any articles that are not rage bait for the racists?
Muslim defends Islamic violence and attacks police stopping it. What a shock.
islam is an evil religion that plans to take over and eliminate all our rights, simple as that
I really don’t see how this is going to be legal tbh. I engaged with one of the people that sit on the board. And from speaking to him he seems to be suggesting that people should accept the narrative of Islam. But that is telling people what to think. For example Islam might present some of Muhammad actions as moral because of the time etc etc a bit like when people try a claim that colonialism was a good thing because it brought education to the region. But the narrative is an opinion. Some people might not share that that opinion.
A perfect example is Muhammed marriage/relationship with his concubine. Maryam the whole story is insane. The narrative is that she later became a Muslim so it should be seen as a good thing. Okay but no one will accept the narrative if it was some Texas slave owner having sexual relations with their slave. But it will be Islamophobia to find Muhammed relationship with his Coptic concubine morally questionable. Religious Scholar have no right to dictate to us what we should think about their religious ideas. We should be free to make moral judgements about any text or ideas that we read.
I mean if the government goes down this road will they tell Muslims not misrepresent other religions and they should accept the Christian scholar interpretation of their text.
This will drive a wedge in society as it will be seen to give one group of people favourable treatments over others.
My last point people that want to practice their relation on peace should be protected and respected. But there is a political side of Islam that should be rejected in the same way that we should reject Christian nationalism.
To the folks in the UK. I am sorry. I wish you luck.
Makes think of that song. Living on a Thin Line from the Kinks
Edit: typo.
If people start getting arrested for Islamophobia it’s going to cause havoc.
This is a authoritarian law banning speaking about a certain subject. British people are renowned for attacking and undermining authoritarian laws.
This will probably lead to more arrested, and the spiral continues.
The character of a group is often reflected from it’s leader.
Starmer, in my opinion, has no morals. He’s never held any position before changing his mind. He’s like the manchurian candidate, as though someone else is telling him what to say.
I don’t get why the “left” have so much time for an authoritarian ultra conservative ideology that treats women as second class.
We need to be free to crticise any ideology, especially when it’s based on nothing more than the belief in a “god”, that doesn’t exist.
I refuse to believe anyone actually believes what they comment here. The level of delusion is crazy.
That’s all they have, funny how thee most intolerant people on earth then claim they’re the victims, we’ve accommodated them, built mosques for them, given them prayer rooms, supported them, covered their crimes up for 40+ years, but as soon as any criticism has happened suddenly they’re the victims, they ethnically cleansed jews and christians from almost 53 countries which are now theirs after violent conquests. A very unlikeable community in my eyes.