Tax the rich more to fill hole in public finances, Labour members tell Starmer

“They divide us by our colour. They divide us by our tongue. They divide us as men and women. They divide us as old and young.”

our divisions are their weapon, and our unity is their fear.

Confront the bias in your own heart. Refuse the poison of judgment. See the human being before the label.

We are not fragments—we are a spectrum. Every shade, every voice, every story belongs here. Humanity is not meant to be split; we are meant to stand together.

And to those who hoard power, the narcissists, the 1%—we say: you will not destroy the many to feed the greed of the few.

We are coming. We are countless. And we will not be divided.

Most people don’t want to leave the country they grew up in but there’s a limit of how far you can push people with options before they think of leaving. If you’re constantly being hit with tax rises and failing public services at what point do you get out of dodge.

Everyone agrees we should tax wealth but no one seems to be able to agree on how beyond the existing wealth taxes we already have.

I think we’d be better off looking at how we can close loopholes in the current system and revise taxation in general than this idea a new wealth tax is going to magically disappear our economic woes.

Reddit and Labour backbenchers only have one policy idea: TAx the RiCH. Meanwhile Nvidia is nearly worth as much as annual UK GDP.

Not possible. Taxes are already so high on high earners that increasing them further will reduce tax revenue from lost economic activity eroding the tax base more than it will increase it from the higher marginal rates.

The rich. Also known as those of the top of PAYE.

So get ready if you’re in the middle. They are about to go in dry with the BFC 3000.

Why bother spending a life time learning and working hard just to have others rip the skin of your back.

Not just wealth, we need to clamp down on companies who’s only purpose seems to be to extract wealth from our country. All the big supermarket chains are not paying the living wage whilst making % increase profits year on year. Amazon etc all pay ridiculous amounts of corporation tax.

This has to stop. Neo liberalism and rampant capitalism are going to run this country into the ground, corporations have to start paying their fair share or we’re toast. The lower/middle classes cannot be wrung out any further. And the idea that big business “will leave” is also nonsense. They’ll just be making fewer billions.

Then who pays when they all run off to Barbados or whatever, and there’s big bills wanting paying?

I know it sounds boot licky, but they have the financial mobility to do shit like that. 

I worry it’s one of those “nice in an ideal world” ideas but the reality is just us paying more as per.

Let’s see how it shakes out if it ever does happen, I am just a cynical stranger chatting shit online.

And be realistic about it.

If you have billions you can afford millions.

The real solution is we need to spend less on non infrastructure spending. Our benefits/pension structure is unsuitable 

Why don’t they reduce spending instead.. the state is way too large

We’re still having essentially 19th and 20th century conversations about this stuff, it’s so basic, just entirely obfuscated by power dynamics.

We pretend like taxing the rich or the companies that aren’t paying their way is something that’s difficult to achieve, or even something that’s morally ambiguous – it’s not.

Surely it’s better to tax the poor, they don’t have money, aah, well let’s cut benefits then because poor people don’t need so …., aah, got it let’s tax the middle class. Anyone above average wage up to say a million a year.

Of course this is all rubbish but that is the debate we circle around nowadays.

“I can’t hear youuuu I’m too busy buddying up to people on the Epstein list!”

This would be all about the detail. For example, I wouldn’t want to see people being expected to pay a wealth tax on the land under their 2 bed terrace house they could barely afford, just because it’s in London.

My biggest complain about the latest wave of ‘tax the rich’ is it always lacks any detail about mechanics of it and the impact. It’s good to push the government to think outside of the box but we need more of these think-tanks to work on actual useful policies.

I still think the main reason for government wealth declining could be down to societal changes, cultural homogenisation, inactivity, and centralisation of the things people buy. If everyone buys their stuff from one retailer, who orders in their products from a supplier owned by a single larger parent co, the wealth ultimately filters into fewer and fewer pockets.

A diverse economy with more direct owners would be better from this standpoint – but we live in a world where 99% of humans want the same Nike trainers, the same mobile phone, does the same hobbies, etc. If everyone buys their shoes from Nike, only a small number of people in that supply chain benefit compared to if we had a local shoemaker etc.

Think it may just be a result of how the globalised world has evolved to this stage.

Literally everyone is saying this… And it’s not tax the high earners. Doctors/Lawyers/Accountants/Brokers don’t need to be touched via income tax.

It’s tax the fucking wealth. Even 1-2% per year on people who have 10-20m worth plus.