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  1. Not sure how the Telegraph have already decided this party that has presented no policies to be “hard-left”, despite the previous manifesto Corbyn ran as a party leader on being pretty centre-left.

  2. BoopingBurrito on

    Maybe this is what it’ll take for Labour to bring in proportional representation…fear of having their majority destroyed by corbyn running a socialist in every constituency and taking a chunk of the labour vote. With proportional representation they have a chance of being the largest party (depending on how the campaign goes), and might manage a coalition with the Lib Dems quite readily.

  3. That’s 20% ripped away from Labour, Lib Dem’s and Greens vote share. That means more seats for Reform and more power for Mr Farage.

    If you believe the polls that have tried to account for Corbyn’s new party’s impact, we are currently sailing towards ed Davey’s leading PMQs with less than 100 MPs.

  4. It will do well initially and then they’ll cross a lot of the electorates red lines by promoting an unpalatable policy on something like immigration or Trident.

  5. Appropriate-Divide64 on

    It’s so dumb how anything left leaning is given the “hard” prefix as if it’s equivalent to the hard right.

  6. Psycho_Splodge on

    His domestic policies seemed fine, it was his defence, foreign policy, and immigration that made him so popular among traditional labour voters.

  7. If the mainstream press and public are so scared of Corbyn’s politics and a scaremongering concept of an imaginary exaggerated “hard-left”, if it were to be created in 2025, there would never be a NHS, Libraries, or even public Wi-Fi would be considered communist woke non-sense.

  8. Something that doesn’t seem to get discussed much is that we had Jeremy Corbyn in a pretty big position of power: leader of the opposition for 5 years. And at that specific job – leading the party – he was arguably pretty bad at. Not very good during PMQs. Soft on things like Brexit. Terrible at party discipline too.

    He had a decent manifesto back in 2017 – one that I voted for too. But as someone to actually LEAD a party, I really think he had his time, and failed at it. He’s no Bernie Saunders / AOC, and I think it’s someone in that ilk that we really need to give a better voice to people on the Left. He’s tainted and just not very good in that respect.

  9. Didymograptus2 on

    Corbyn was never hard left, just a democratic socialist with many policies the same as governments across Europe.

  10. I wish we lived in a state where one fifth of voters would back a hard left party. What they’re actually going to do is run on a social democrat platform with centre-left policies that are considered normal stuff in countries that are pleasant to live in.

  11. A fifth could. Well everyone could but the number that will is going to be tiny.

    Hard left? No more than the Telegraph should be called far-right.

  12. He’s 76 now, will be 80 by the next election, if he were to be elected, he’d serve his term from 80 to 85 years old. He’d be older than Joe Biden during his term. Ignoring his politics, do we want someone so old as a prime minister?

  13. This should really be considered a huge failure of Starmer and Labour.

    Tony Blair and Gordon Brown were able to keep the left (including Corbyn) onside. I really don’t think it’s even particularly hard to do as a labour government.

    Blairs approach to the left was you might not agree with everything I do, but I’ll always be better than the Tories and offer you XYZ and you’re welcome in the party. Starmers approach has been ‘you’re not welcome in the party, there’s the door’

  14. Nothing will push the other 80% towards Reform faster than the threat of Corbyn gaining power.

  15. Could, but won’t, the age group these types of parties appeal to notoriously don’t vote, despite being very vocal online.

  16. And I could fly to the fucking moon but I’m afraid I’m busy this weekend so it ain’t gonna happen.

  17. ‘could’ isn’t great basis for a headline.

    A fifth of voters *could* be five dogs in a trenchcoat, but it’s not very likely.

  18. AnonymousTimewaster on

    There’s absolutely no way he’s getting that many votes. I’d be shocked if the vote share is around 15%. About 10% seems potentially likely, but there’s so much splintering right now anything could happen.

  19. Is it really HARD left, or has the Overton window been moved so far to the right that it makes it look that way? Or is comrade corbyn going to nationalise my toothbrush?

  20. It’ll be more than a 5th if they get someone else as leader but have Corbyn on as a figurehead for policy. We need someone who’d say yes to nuking our enemies if they attack us. trivial but necessary, the party needs to be trusted on defense and they cant do that with a pacifist who’d watch us get nuked and shrug.

  21. psioniclizard on

    Mo offense but if the telegraph are saying this I am inclined to think it’s BS and just their attempt to split the non-right wing vote.

    But then again I am inclined to ignore anything the telegraph says because all it seems to care about is dividing people.

  22. What would that mean for seats? In a worst case 20% of the vote spread pretty evenly situation its enough to destroy Labour without actually picking anything up. Which would mean the Lib Dems, Tories and Reform walk it.

    Best case, end up with about 20% of the seats. Still not enough to enter government except if luck allows them to become a junior partner. And I don’t see labour going for that unless they have no other option, it would legitimise the one group thats most threatening to them. And it still potentially leaves the Tories and Reform with enough seats between them to walk in.

    The spoiler effect for every party next election is going to be wildly unpredictable, about the only thing I’m certain about is the mp numbers will look nothing like the vote percentages.