UK to clarify definition of ‘honour’-based abuse in drive to cut violence against women and girls
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/aug/26/uk-to-clarify-definition-of-honour-based-abuse-in-drive-to-cut-violence-against-women-and-girls
Posted by topotaul
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British people and honour killings isn’t something I’d have thought they were into.
Seems more like a Pakistani thing.
The fact that the article has to put “honour” in quotes every single time they use it says to me that they should be calling it something else.
Words have power. Attaching a positive word to misogynistic domestic violence is a bad idea, and putting it in quotes doesn’t make it any better.
This is bizzare to me because everything involved in an “”honour”” killing is already illegal.
I’m all for acknowledging non-native customs but they need to leave shit like this back in the Medieval era. Britain does not want this nonsense
I asked for an AI overview on where it’s more and less prevalent in Europe:
*Honour-Based Abuse (HBA) Prevalence in Europe*
*More Prevalent:*
*- United Kingdom: High reports, especially in South Asian and Middle Eastern communities; forced marriages and honour killings noted.*
*- Germany: Common in Turkish and Kurdish communities; honour killings and forced marriages reported.*
*- Netherlands: Notable in Turkish and Moroccan communities; focus on forced marriages.*
*- Sweden: Reported in Middle Eastern and South Asian diasporas; honour-related violence highlighted.*
*- France: Seen in North African and Middle Eastern communities; linked to domestic violence.*
*Less Prevalent:*
*- Nordic Countries (except Sweden): Lower rates in Norway, Denmark, Finland, Iceland; smaller relevant communities.*
*- Eastern Europe: Few reports in Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic; less cultural emphasis on honour norms.*
*- Southern Europe: Lower prevalence in Spain, Portugal, Italy; smaller diaspora populations.*
*- Baltic States: Minimal reports in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia; demographic homogeneity.”*
Isnt this the type of thing we should be focusing on as actual issues to women and girls instead of trans people and pride marches?
Infact the more pro LGBTQ a group is the less likely this shit happens
The definition should be: zero tolerance against it.
You don’t need to clarify it, someone murders someone based upon a belief system which is incompatible to a normal functioning society. That person needs sending to prison for life, doesn’t matter if they killed someone because their family honour demands it, it’s not the old times
What’s the point of defining all this if the courts are going to spare prison for violent parents?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/04/father-battered-daughter-iron-bar-spared-jail/
“The number of “honour”-based abuse offences recorded by English police forces had increased by more than 60% in two years”.
I wonder why.
Another law having to be created in the UK because politicians are importing low skilled & uneducated people that still believe in a religion that treats women as 2nd class citizens ✌️
This practise happened in medieval times here and was lost over time, it was no longer an issue, until Tony Blair started the process of mass immigration from the developing countries.
These behaviours are ingrained in clans and these people are not adopting to western values; They have not left these cultural norms behind and instead believing they can kill women without any consequences, hence these new laws ☝️
I thought ‘honour’ was an outdated and patriarchal concept for old fossils.
Or are we just importing a foreign version of it to replace old UK values of honour?
Gotta give it to people ITT pretending to discover for the first time this sort of thing exists in the UK.
One has to notice the focus isn’t on protecting the vulnerable, here it being girls and women, but another opportunity to foam at the mouth at “immigrants”. Couldn’t expect anything less tbh, after all these women and girls are “rag heads” to these bigots anyway.
There’s nothing honourable about abusing anyone it’s the greatest betrayal and dishonour specially when the victim is minor or partner.