America’s leading physician groups are now openly defying RFK Jr. US vaccine consensus has officially shattered
https://www.vox.com/health/459226/rfk-jr-trump-covid-vaccine-ban
America’s leading physician groups are now openly defying RFK Jr. US vaccine consensus has officially shattered
https://www.vox.com/health/459226/rfk-jr-trump-covid-vaccine-ban
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No, vaccine consensus hasn’t shattered. Its still there, very much intact, its just that the paranoid idiots and know-nothings are louder than ever and have been granted some actual authority. The medical field is not changing its consensus on vaccine efficacy.
> Yesterday, a British cardiologist allied with US Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said the Trump administration would soon pull Covid-19 vaccines off the market. Last week, the American Academy of Pediatrics said that the group **would continue to recommend Covid vaccines** for kids under the age of 2, openly defying Kennedy’s move this May to end the recommendation for both healthy children and pregnant people.
> The American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology followed suit, saying on Friday that it **would also continue to advise pregnant people to get a Covid shot.** In both cases, some of the country’s leading medical organizations said they wanted to maintain access to protection for the very youngest children, either directly or through vaccinating their mothers, because of the evidence that the population is at a higher risk of serious illness from Covid-19 compared to older children.
> Kennedy, in response, **ominously warned the physician groups that their members could lose liability protections from medical malpractice lawsuits** if they don’t follow the government’s vaccine guidance. In this new reality in which doctors and federal health officials are at odds over who should get vaccines, shots could be harder to get — and **not only Covid shots, but flu vaccines and routine childhood shots**, all of which have come under Kennedy’s scrutiny.
> As a result of all this, more people could get sick.
> Drug manufacturers may **produce fewer doses** of their existing vaccines. Insurers may not be willing to cover people’s shots if they are not being recommended by the government. Various nightmare scenarios could emerge: Maybe a vulnerable person gives up on getting a shot, even if it is recommended for them and covered by their insurance, simply because they **can’t find one at a nearby pharmacy.** Or maybe the healthy loved one of a vulnerable person **won’t be able to afford their shot because their insurance plan won’t cover it anymore.**
Consensus has not shattered. There are still 99% of scientists supporting vaccines and one idiot and some cronies opposing it. So the appearance of consensus may have been shattered, but the fact that RFK Jr. is a dumba$$ piece of nepo baby garbage who is entirely unqualified to hold his position remains beyond dispute.
Well, whose advice are you going to follow, medical professionals or the lawyer
This guy needs to stop swimming in Schitt’s Creek. No one ever tells you where that worm came from!
Today’s edition of For Better Science is an article on RFK Jr’s selection as a CDC data analyst, David Geier, a known anti-vaxxer and son of an anti-vaxxer:
https://forbetterscience.com/2025/08/26/mergers-acquisitions-by-mark-and-david-geier/
One more front in the war between the reality show people and the reality people.
It is impressive that Trump and his people manage to be wrong on EVERY issue, even the easy ones to get right.
It’s hard to imagine a plan for destroying this country that would be more effective than what they are doing.
con·sen·sus/kənˈsensəs/*noun*
1. a general agreement.”a consensus view”
I mean all qualified individuals agree. It sounds like we in fact to have a consensus.
Would be a shame if a whole load of people who can’t tell incompetent, corrupt, malevolent narcissists from mildly feckless at the ballot box could also not tell the difference between quackery and proven health science then suffered the consequences… Then there was some manner of shift in representation at the ballot box…
One imbecile shouldn’t have the ability to arbitrarily change medical guidance for the nation. Our system is clearly broken.
Doesn’t this headline contradict itself?
It literally says that the educated are disregarding an ignorant layman’s opinion. It sounds like the consensus is fine as the uneducated were never part of it anyway.
Idiots. There is always a consensus in science/medicine. This is how it all works.
Over time given new evidence the consensus **shifts** to a new Point of View.
Case in point. The model of the Atom. It has changed numerous times and at every point there was a consensus for that given model. It never shattered, it shifted to a new POV given the evidence available.
I teach medical students and there is no way I’ll use revised CDC guidelines if vaccine schedules are altered during this admin.
It’s kinda funny, you’d think an ex-Heroin junkie would care less about what people are putting in their bodies… but I guess the Brain Worm knows best!
I’m glad we’re but a short drive from a first-world nation here in Southern California.
Doctors are using their years of training and experience instead of listening to someone who has no medical training or experience of any kind.
Fixed it
Man stood on the record and said no one should be taking Health advice from me.
Thank god I vaccinated my children already. I feel sad for parents in the future who will lose their children to fully preventable illnesses. Make America 18th Century again, apparently.
Vaccine recipient doesn’t want others to get vaccine’s.
This headline is an example of sane washing.
There is no break in consensus. There is only paranoia and delusion competing with facts and evidence.
all according to plan. They’re *really* trying to destroy the country
Wouldn’t it still be in insurer’s best interest to cover vaccines? Preventative care is way cheaper after all. Is there something I’m missing with that angle?
If this is such a terrible thing RJK Jr and the US are doing… why do so many countries not recommend the covid vaccine for healthy children under 5?
**COVID-19 vaccination for kids under 5 (as of Aug 26, 2025)**
**United States**
* Healthy: Not routine (CDC says talk to your doctor).
* High-risk: Recommended.
* AAP: recommends for all 6–23 months.
**UK, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Ireland**
* Healthy: Not routine.
* High-risk: Recommended from 6 months if medical conditions or immunocompromised.
* Some (e.g., France, Spain) outline 3-dose/booster schedules for risk groups.
**Bottom line**
* Healthy under-5s: generally *not* recommended.
* At-risk under-5s: almost all countries *do* recommend it, usually from 6 months.
* Most of Europe now runs seasonal campaigns aimed at risk groups, not all kids.
Any chance the British cardiologist is one of the anti vaxxer grifters? We had a few doctors who decided they’d get richer by being the voice against reason.
You put an idiot in charge, this is what you get. How can anyone be surprised?
good. we need to show the rest of the world we aren’t entirely brain dead.
The consensus is still there, it’s just that the federal government is pretending it isn’t.
Consensus is still very strong. One fucking idiot does not a consensus shatter.
They’ve gutted the NIH, CDC and FDA. FDA and CDC recommendations mean nothing. NIH studies are not trustworthy. That’s the state of affairs. Brought to you by your racist neighbors.
The consensus is intact, the pedophiles in power are just ignoring it.
… And my Trump supporting family members still insist that political views don’t harm/kill anyone….
yea, the big Pharma industrial complex is telling your doctor to get those jabs out.
NEVER EVER AGAIN for any jabs
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Isn’t this just doing the very thing they claimed to be against? I thought they were the party of choice. I hate this timeline
Dunce admin are undermining public trust in the republican federal government