Happens a lot, though it’s usually men rather than women. The result of the “children’s rights” movement which was about the child’s right to know both parents. Not enforceable by any child against a parent but enforceable my parents. (Anyone who remembers the Pair, like that.)
WantsToDieBadly on
If this was a bloke he’d be denied visitation for the accusation alone
Wadarkhu on
People who abuse children should just lose any parental rights they have, it’s not unfair, it’s very very very easy to not be so sick in the head.
> At that hearing, judge Thomas Greensmith set out a “road-map” regarding contact which involved video-calls between mother and daughter progressing to direct contact three times a week. *However, the video calls were “unsuccessful”, with a social worker noting the child was “scared and tearful” and “resistant” to speaking to her mother, who she described as “naughty mummy”.*
Sad that they wouldn’t listen.
> The Court of Appeal said in a written judgment that Judge Greensmith had made his decision “without any meaningful consideration of [the child’s] current welfare”. *Judge Greensmith’s ruling was set aside and the case was remitted to a different judge.*
Does this mean they’re ignoring this judge and looking to appeal? Hopefully.
chat5251 on
I thought there was a law to prevent this? Or has it been shelved…
Reasonable-Echo-6947 on
Kudos to the local authority for appealing this. The court system is dangerously flawed, there’s been too much done in favour of abusers for too long.
And local authorities have often failed to address the very subtle manipulation and grooming that goes on with parental, especially motherly, abuse.
Removing the children to “safe” people, who can show “normal” parenting behaviours, is vitally important in giving the child the tools to articulate the “abnormal” behaviour.
I’m not sure I entirely disagree with the first judge as he requested video contact, so he removed the ability of the mother to physically abuse, and gave the LA the opportunity to record and monitor the psychological abuse, which can add to the evidence needed to secure a prosecution.
The problem with familiar abuse is the victims only know it as normality, hopefully the judge and LA caught it on camera.
Kudos to the victims and advocates fighting to change the legal system
Specialist-M1X on
Social services and the courts very often treat abusive mothers as if they are victims themselves. Excuses are made, events are minimised, and often the children end up becoming an afterthought. It’s very very common.
briancoxsellsavon on
How cruel on the child to enforce contact in this case. Especially when the child has clearly shown distress, “oh yeah once a week is still fine” wtf?!?
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Happens a lot, though it’s usually men rather than women. The result of the “children’s rights” movement which was about the child’s right to know both parents. Not enforceable by any child against a parent but enforceable my parents. (Anyone who remembers the Pair, like that.)
If this was a bloke he’d be denied visitation for the accusation alone
People who abuse children should just lose any parental rights they have, it’s not unfair, it’s very very very easy to not be so sick in the head.
> At that hearing, judge Thomas Greensmith set out a “road-map” regarding contact which involved video-calls between mother and daughter progressing to direct contact three times a week. *However, the video calls were “unsuccessful”, with a social worker noting the child was “scared and tearful” and “resistant” to speaking to her mother, who she described as “naughty mummy”.*
Sad that they wouldn’t listen.
> The Court of Appeal said in a written judgment that Judge Greensmith had made his decision “without any meaningful consideration of [the child’s] current welfare”. *Judge Greensmith’s ruling was set aside and the case was remitted to a different judge.*
Does this mean they’re ignoring this judge and looking to appeal? Hopefully.
I thought there was a law to prevent this? Or has it been shelved…
Kudos to the local authority for appealing this. The court system is dangerously flawed, there’s been too much done in favour of abusers for too long.
And local authorities have often failed to address the very subtle manipulation and grooming that goes on with parental, especially motherly, abuse.
Removing the children to “safe” people, who can show “normal” parenting behaviours, is vitally important in giving the child the tools to articulate the “abnormal” behaviour.
I’m not sure I entirely disagree with the first judge as he requested video contact, so he removed the ability of the mother to physically abuse, and gave the LA the opportunity to record and monitor the psychological abuse, which can add to the evidence needed to secure a prosecution.
The problem with familiar abuse is the victims only know it as normality, hopefully the judge and LA caught it on camera.
Kudos to the victims and advocates fighting to change the legal system
Social services and the courts very often treat abusive mothers as if they are victims themselves. Excuses are made, events are minimised, and often the children end up becoming an afterthought. It’s very very common.
How cruel on the child to enforce contact in this case. Especially when the child has clearly shown distress, “oh yeah once a week is still fine” wtf?!?