I really don’t like this lumping of all travelers as one group, as per the article. There are many types of traveller who aren’t thieving bastards to trash everything.
In my former line of work I met lots of different traveling types who were kind, gentle, honest hard workers who are responsible for a lot of the large events/festivals many of us enjoy year on year. Their lives are made much harder by groups of twats who also happen to be travelers.
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Arcon1337 on
We really need to stop tolerating this behaviour. I wish the government would put their foot down with these criminals.
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cadiastandsuk on
Our council in Derby decided that appeasement is their best solution and when they turn up, angle grind locks or pull out fences to get on to parks, the council then deliver them fresh water, portaloos and skips for their rubbish. I understand their logic that they hope preventative measures would work ( it still didnt) but then they wonder why they overstay and it takes weeks and court orders to evict them…
Reverend_Vader on
I helped get the “travellers” on a static site evicted a couple of years ago in my place
Well over a decade before that I worked for council enforcement and used to have to attend the site, they were fun to deal with
We gave them bins, they threatened the binmen, skips – stolen, repairs, they threatened and attacked the tradesmen, the gypsy liason officer was assaulted and their car trashed
I don’t work enforcement anymore, I work in legal areas so when this council asked me back in, I put my heart and soul into building a case for eviction of every one of them, we used all the violence, fly tipping, dog fighting, horse killing and other anti social behaviour to secure a full site eviction
The most surprising thing was sitting down with the housing chiefs and asking why they didn’t just treat them like any of their other residents that would be evicted much sooner
They were so hard wired that “there’s nothing we can do” that they couldn’t see how simple it was to take action with the litany of violence they had against all the families
It just needed one person with a “fuck em” attitude and I was their huckleberry
Took about 6 months of court but off they finally fucking popped
My only annoyance is there are about 4 people in my town that know it was me that had them turfed out, as its the greatest thing I’ve done for my gaff
I know I’d drink for free for life in the adjoining village but I can’t tell anyone for obvious reasons
Still fills me with a warm fuzzy feeling everytime I see one of these stories
MultiMidden on
Absolute shocker but what are the odds that the waste is domestic from people who aren’t prepared to pay for proper waste handling company and will happily go for the person advertising on facebook prepared to do for £50 or something?
Quietuus on
Does the council offer them bin collections and access to the booking system for the local tip?
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creamyjoshy on
I honestly think the solution has to be splitting offending groups up and forcing them into council housing at polar ends of the country, and banning them for life from driving. Their way of life – by which I mean using communal and private property as their own and terrorising local communities – is fundamentally incompatible with the rest of society. Its possible to be a traveller and not do crime but those who do should be forced into a sedimentary life
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All the people who have never had to deal with them will tell you loudly you’re racist and bigoted for having an issue with them, but it’s simply not the case.
I saw the exact same thing in the village I grew up, a nice peaceful area with very little antisocial behaviour. Some travellers “moved in” to the football pitch (read: destroyed the field and took over the place).
The local Facebook page was filled with people proudly defending them and accusing everyone of being bigots for having preconceived notions of what they were like, we should all give them a chance, etc…
Within days half the tradesmen in the area we’re having their vans broken into, people were catching dodgy guys casing out their back gardens on their security cams, anything metal that wasn’t bolted down was disappearing into thin air, and abusive language was being hurled at locals in the streets. They were absolute pieces of shit and made a total mess of the fields, leaving a whirlwind of chaos and crime behind them.
We need to stop seeing these people as a race or ethnicity, and more as roaming bands of criminals that essentially loot an area before moving on to the next place when they’ve angered enough people. They’re not Romani gypsies, an actual ethnic group, which I think confuses a lot of foreigners who just think we’re horrendously racist. They’re as British/Irish as anyone else on these isles, they don’t deserve the protection of being seen as a minority.
zombie_osama on
My company had travellers break into one of our power stations and assault a security guard on a Friday afternoon. Police were useless and didn’t even attend – said it was a civil matter despite the assault. They stole lots of materials and caused £1000s worth of damage over the weekend before the council managed to evict them the following week.
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I really don’t like this lumping of all travelers as one group, as per the article. There are many types of traveller who aren’t thieving bastards to trash everything.
In my former line of work I met lots of different traveling types who were kind, gentle, honest hard workers who are responsible for a lot of the large events/festivals many of us enjoy year on year. Their lives are made much harder by groups of twats who also happen to be travelers.
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We really need to stop tolerating this behaviour. I wish the government would put their foot down with these criminals.
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Our council in Derby decided that appeasement is their best solution and when they turn up, angle grind locks or pull out fences to get on to parks, the council then deliver them fresh water, portaloos and skips for their rubbish. I understand their logic that they hope preventative measures would work ( it still didnt) but then they wonder why they overstay and it takes weeks and court orders to evict them…
I helped get the “travellers” on a static site evicted a couple of years ago in my place
Well over a decade before that I worked for council enforcement and used to have to attend the site, they were fun to deal with
We gave them bins, they threatened the binmen, skips – stolen, repairs, they threatened and attacked the tradesmen, the gypsy liason officer was assaulted and their car trashed
I don’t work enforcement anymore, I work in legal areas so when this council asked me back in, I put my heart and soul into building a case for eviction of every one of them, we used all the violence, fly tipping, dog fighting, horse killing and other anti social behaviour to secure a full site eviction
The most surprising thing was sitting down with the housing chiefs and asking why they didn’t just treat them like any of their other residents that would be evicted much sooner
They were so hard wired that “there’s nothing we can do” that they couldn’t see how simple it was to take action with the litany of violence they had against all the families
It just needed one person with a “fuck em” attitude and I was their huckleberry
Took about 6 months of court but off they finally fucking popped
My only annoyance is there are about 4 people in my town that know it was me that had them turfed out, as its the greatest thing I’ve done for my gaff
I know I’d drink for free for life in the adjoining village but I can’t tell anyone for obvious reasons
Still fills me with a warm fuzzy feeling everytime I see one of these stories
Absolute shocker but what are the odds that the waste is domestic from people who aren’t prepared to pay for proper waste handling company and will happily go for the person advertising on facebook prepared to do for £50 or something?
Does the council offer them bin collections and access to the booking system for the local tip?
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I honestly think the solution has to be splitting offending groups up and forcing them into council housing at polar ends of the country, and banning them for life from driving. Their way of life – by which I mean using communal and private property as their own and terrorising local communities – is fundamentally incompatible with the rest of society. Its possible to be a traveller and not do crime but those who do should be forced into a sedimentary life
All the people who have never had to deal with them will tell you loudly you’re racist and bigoted for having an issue with them, but it’s simply not the case.
I saw the exact same thing in the village I grew up, a nice peaceful area with very little antisocial behaviour. Some travellers “moved in” to the football pitch (read: destroyed the field and took over the place).
The local Facebook page was filled with people proudly defending them and accusing everyone of being bigots for having preconceived notions of what they were like, we should all give them a chance, etc…
Within days half the tradesmen in the area we’re having their vans broken into, people were catching dodgy guys casing out their back gardens on their security cams, anything metal that wasn’t bolted down was disappearing into thin air, and abusive language was being hurled at locals in the streets. They were absolute pieces of shit and made a total mess of the fields, leaving a whirlwind of chaos and crime behind them.
We need to stop seeing these people as a race or ethnicity, and more as roaming bands of criminals that essentially loot an area before moving on to the next place when they’ve angered enough people. They’re not Romani gypsies, an actual ethnic group, which I think confuses a lot of foreigners who just think we’re horrendously racist. They’re as British/Irish as anyone else on these isles, they don’t deserve the protection of being seen as a minority.
My company had travellers break into one of our power stations and assault a security guard on a Friday afternoon. Police were useless and didn’t even attend – said it was a civil matter despite the assault. They stole lots of materials and caused £1000s worth of damage over the weekend before the council managed to evict them the following week.