Yep, good, should have happened already but better late than never
londons_explorer on
You mean this idea people have been talking about for years is *finally* being considered?
PresentationUpset319 on
Don’t know about could suspend..as far as I’m concerned we 100% should suspend visas!
TokyoBaguette on
it’s all very well and good but what’s that Mar a Lago face all about?
LonelyStranger8467 on
It’s really just logical.
Soft power that everyone talks about is worth nothing.
If we want to improve things for us and other countries we have to incentivise them to do it.
Dadavester on
Nice to see Labour finally catching up with what others have been saying for months.
Curiousinsomeways on
“Could” is code for virtually no chance of ever happening. Politicians put out such claims along with “looking at” all the time and they vanish.
AirconGuyUK on
This is something Farage and Zia suggested last month.
TraditionalBench7008 on
I don’t think you guys have thought this through!
Suspending visas for them means suspending visas for us.
Not giving a toss about the consequences and crying about it afterwards is a UK thing since Brexit and regularly giving power to the Tories so carry on imbeciles.
stumperr on
This is a no brainer. We have some or your citizens we do not want. Take them back or no one from your country enters the UK
orangecloud_0 on
And conservatives who salivate for Reform will say that isn’t enough again
ReligiousGhoul on
Would be a long time overdue.
We’re the 6th largest economy in the world. For all their faults, I think one thing we could take away from the US is starting to throw our weight around to get what we want.
londons_explorer on
Other ideas:
* Confiscate boats of any charity who ‘finds’ distressed small boats nearer to france than here, and brings the people here instead of france. Yes, international law requires mariners rescue people in distress at sea, even if they deliberately stabbed holes in their own boat, and international law also requires the UK accept asylum applications from people rescued on a british flagged ship, but there is *no* law that we cannot impound that ship.
* Asylum processing is to be done on some military-base only island to prevent people going missing whilst their application is considered.
* New crime of soliciting/assisting an asylum seeker in return for payment, together with rewards for turning such people in. Should get rid of all the adverts for “Pay us $10k loan and get a UK citizenship” which are smattered across the world (just use a VPN to any warzone and you’ll see them all over the web).
* Make our own competing immigration route, where you come to the UK and pay 30% extra tax and get citizenship as long as you don’t commit any crimes in 5 years and have a decent employment record or other contribution to society.
TheChaoticCrusader on
Good if it happens but il beleive it when I see it
SumptuousRageBait1 on
I think we need to consider the reason other countries want us to give their citizens visas. Surely they don’t want us poaching their workers? I do wonder how much money is leaving our economy via gifts to family back home.
MD564 on
Everyone cheering this on without realising how much this could devastate certain industries. The NHS, Aviation and teaching.
Good luck getting on your easyJet flight to benidorm this summer.
Jakes_Snake_ on
This is ridiculous. Why would we allow visas from a country with the possibility that people will not return? This is basic stuff. They’re not even saying they will, just could. Suppose they like this to show how tough they are, but just shows how bad the situation. And the fact that they’re not saying they will definitely do something about it means they are the problem too.
Macca80s on
Now how to stop the endless appeals and ” I can’t get chicken nuggets back home” defences
Expert_Ant_2767 on
You do understand this has a close to null effect on the small boat crossings, right?
The fact people are cheering is proof of a complete lack of understanding on how to tackle the small boats problem.
Options would be either a third safe country or agree some kind of a deal with France.
Flaky_Reach_3044 on
Far easier said than done but if I was Labour I would suspend ALL visas for a year. It is the only way the majority of the British public will gain insight into the other side of the immigration debate.
llynllydaw_999 on
The country where the person originally came from originally? Or the last country they transited through before arriving here? Because French people don’t need visas to come to the UK, and even if a ban on French visitors was somehow introduced it would cause far more problems than it solved.
ZX52 on
>The talks came as the government continued to face pressure to reduce the number of people crossing the Channel in small boats.
How is this relevant? I would’ve thought this restriction would be something applied to regular migration, not asylum seekers. Or are we going to refuse to take Afghan refugees because we don’t have a deal with the *Taliban* (you know, the organisation creating those refugees).
naivri on
“What’s that, you receive x million in foreign aid from UK and you won’t take back your illegal immigrants?”
Seems an easy conversation.
Old_Course9344 on
These are just empty words
The UK already has agreements with countries that have major one way tourism such as Albania, India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Bangladesh
The countries with no agreement are countries they can never send people back to due to ongoing wars or famines such as Eritrea and Sudan
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Yep, good, should have happened already but better late than never
You mean this idea people have been talking about for years is *finally* being considered?
Don’t know about could suspend..as far as I’m concerned we 100% should suspend visas!
it’s all very well and good but what’s that Mar a Lago face all about?
It’s really just logical.
Soft power that everyone talks about is worth nothing.
If we want to improve things for us and other countries we have to incentivise them to do it.
Nice to see Labour finally catching up with what others have been saying for months.
“Could” is code for virtually no chance of ever happening. Politicians put out such claims along with “looking at” all the time and they vanish.
This is something Farage and Zia suggested last month.
I don’t think you guys have thought this through!
Suspending visas for them means suspending visas for us.
Not giving a toss about the consequences and crying about it afterwards is a UK thing since Brexit and regularly giving power to the Tories so carry on imbeciles.
This is a no brainer. We have some or your citizens we do not want. Take them back or no one from your country enters the UK
And conservatives who salivate for Reform will say that isn’t enough again
Would be a long time overdue.
We’re the 6th largest economy in the world. For all their faults, I think one thing we could take away from the US is starting to throw our weight around to get what we want.
Other ideas:
* Confiscate boats of any charity who ‘finds’ distressed small boats nearer to france than here, and brings the people here instead of france. Yes, international law requires mariners rescue people in distress at sea, even if they deliberately stabbed holes in their own boat, and international law also requires the UK accept asylum applications from people rescued on a british flagged ship, but there is *no* law that we cannot impound that ship.
* Asylum processing is to be done on some military-base only island to prevent people going missing whilst their application is considered.
* New crime of soliciting/assisting an asylum seeker in return for payment, together with rewards for turning such people in. Should get rid of all the adverts for “Pay us $10k loan and get a UK citizenship” which are smattered across the world (just use a VPN to any warzone and you’ll see them all over the web).
* Make our own competing immigration route, where you come to the UK and pay 30% extra tax and get citizenship as long as you don’t commit any crimes in 5 years and have a decent employment record or other contribution to society.
Good if it happens but il beleive it when I see it
I think we need to consider the reason other countries want us to give their citizens visas. Surely they don’t want us poaching their workers? I do wonder how much money is leaving our economy via gifts to family back home.
Everyone cheering this on without realising how much this could devastate certain industries. The NHS, Aviation and teaching.
Good luck getting on your easyJet flight to benidorm this summer.
This is ridiculous. Why would we allow visas from a country with the possibility that people will not return? This is basic stuff. They’re not even saying they will, just could. Suppose they like this to show how tough they are, but just shows how bad the situation. And the fact that they’re not saying they will definitely do something about it means they are the problem too.
Now how to stop the endless appeals and ” I can’t get chicken nuggets back home” defences
You do understand this has a close to null effect on the small boat crossings, right?
The fact people are cheering is proof of a complete lack of understanding on how to tackle the small boats problem.
Options would be either a third safe country or agree some kind of a deal with France.
Far easier said than done but if I was Labour I would suspend ALL visas for a year. It is the only way the majority of the British public will gain insight into the other side of the immigration debate.
The country where the person originally came from originally? Or the last country they transited through before arriving here? Because French people don’t need visas to come to the UK, and even if a ban on French visitors was somehow introduced it would cause far more problems than it solved.
>The talks came as the government continued to face pressure to reduce the number of people crossing the Channel in small boats.
How is this relevant? I would’ve thought this restriction would be something applied to regular migration, not asylum seekers. Or are we going to refuse to take Afghan refugees because we don’t have a deal with the *Taliban* (you know, the organisation creating those refugees).
“What’s that, you receive x million in foreign aid from UK and you won’t take back your illegal immigrants?”
Seems an easy conversation.
These are just empty words
The UK already has agreements with countries that have major one way tourism such as Albania, India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Bangladesh
The countries with no agreement are countries they can never send people back to due to ongoing wars or famines such as Eritrea and Sudan