Now separate out the repeat offenders and see the numbers plummet
Novel-Public7719 on
Hmm so it seems that we should ban heterosexual marriages along with lesbian marriages, and promote gay marriages because they are the most stable.
MetallicGray on
Wow I did not realize that ~40% marriages end in separation. That’s surprising. That’s almost a 50/50 if a married person statistically dies married or not.
frequentcannibalism on
Now do domestic violence, it’s an even larger gap.
rosen380 on
See what happens when you introduce women into a good thing! /s
DiscountSalt on
All the lesbians are just celebrating how nowadays women have the right and opportunity to divorce
OldBowerstone on
I firmly believe this is because of Borat and the all-too-common use of “Mai Waif.” M/M marriages often avoid this problem.
SaltedHamHocks on
Sooo, women are the problem?
Overbaron on
So the number of women in a relationship is a strong predictor for the likelihood of a relationship to end up in divorce… the numbers line up so perfectly it looks almost made up.
Leucippus1 on
The boys bringing it home!
tenzo333 on
This proves men should , in order of priority ,
1. Stay single. Focus on work, interests and achieve greatness, satisfaction , accomplishment, validation and happiness
2. Be with another man, for physical needs, pure fun in doing things together and challenge each other to reach greater heights, be it a game of basketball, watching World Cup over pizza together, gym training, PlayStation, there’s so much endless fun!
3. stay away from women unless you want endless nagging, yelling, gaslighting, public drama, emotional blackmailing, guilt tripping, low quality rest for the rest of your lives. Save yourself and leave the ladies to their parents or their female best friends
Ladies these days are no longer the ladies of the yesteryears. Wake up, guys!
We are not born to kill the cockroaches, fix the bulb, set up wifi, carry groceries, chauffeur the ladies, work ourselves to death for their manicures, facials, hair perms, handbags, shoes expenses nonsense
Aggravating_Bite2485 on
What are the main causes of divorce between Lesbians? And also, what methodology was used for the study?
Exhausted1ADefender on
How many of those 59.1% had the Uhaul loaded up by the second date?
Meet-me-behind-bins on
There’s only one lesson from this. The gays should marry the lesbians to promote successful marriages.
FloridaGatorMan on
Boy, this sure attracted a certain type of Redditor.
nedkellysdog on
Jim Jefferies does a bit on this subject – very amusing.
rawspeghetti on
So maybe it’s not all our faults fellas
sbsb27 on
I wonder what percentage of each group had children.
annabananaberry on
Does this data reflect the number of divorces within lesbian marriages or does it reflect the number of lesbians to have been divorced ever? This distinction is very important because there are large numbers of lesbians who were in comp-het marriages that ended before they came out as lesbians. I suspect this data doesn’t reflect the lesbians who divorced men vs those that divorced women.
TheFeshy on
I would like to see a version of this chart that plots divorces relative to their population sizes. Last I checked, gay men had a lower rate of marriage than the other two groups too (I don’t know if that’s still the case). So this shows a higher rate of success in the marriages that do happen, but does that translate to a higher rate of lasting marriages overall?
grapescherries on
Lesbians tend to get married more often, therefore divorce more. Gay men get married the least, that’s why when they do, the marriages tend to be more stable.
XZPUMAZX on
Not trying to be controversial but I would have expected the numbers to more or less level off after 5 or so years. It seams that is not the case as the number of divorces is still rising even 20 years into a marriage.
CameoShadowness on
Given how often women are the ones pushed to leave bad relationships in Male/female relationships, i am not surprized in the slightest that the female/female relationships had higher divorce. The women are just less likely to stay in a bad relationship from my understanding.
ClubSoda on
What about the MMF and FFM thruples?
AhDaIsserSuper on
Not surprising, as lesbians seem to marry at the second date xD
AnAussiebum on
Anecdotally, lesbians will get married asap and then discuss the deal breaker questions.
Gays will go a decade of being together and one day think ‘probably should make this legally official’.
So I think the female + female number is inflated because they are more likely to marry quickly.
So it would be interesting to see the same data but quick marriages vs very late marriages.
It may align similarly.
Math-Hatter on
Guys probably don’t have kids, have more income, and are more likely to open the marriage up when they want other sexual partners without divorcing.
Kids, money, and sex are common reasons for divorce, and they’re less likely to experience those issues/stresses.
Lightsides on
People making a big deal of gender, rightly. But I think a more interesting angle is the degree to which sexual fidelity is important in the marriage. Historically, sexual fidelity has not been as important among gay men as it is with other types of couples.
averagecryptid on
I think it would be interesting to see these stats in another 20 years. I know all this time there has been a lot of push and pull with marriage between people of the same gender and I know there are people who felt the pressure to get married to ‘prove’ legitimacy or whatever. Society is also just generally shitty when it comes to giving partners rights when they aren’t married but that’s another discussion.
Shamanized on
I don’t think this could be studied but I’d be suuuuuuper curious of this same study but comparing straight, bi, and fully gay/lesbian folks instead
-Lorenss on
Wondering why at 6 and 14 years the line goes up a little bit
larikang on
It’s strange that all three lines show the same bumps, seemingly just at different scales.
I wouldn’t expect this for significant data, especially since the MM and FF groups have little to no overlap.
Girlmode on
I’m bi and I feel like a guy will hate you at times. Barely touch you or want sex at all, doesn’t even seem to want to talk. Yet they rarely ever leave… seen it in my own relationships and many friends.
So many men that don’t even seem to like their partners let alone love them, yet they don’t leave. Women will try to fix things a few times but if it doesn’t get better they will actually leave instead of staying unhappy forever.
I prefer the way women date to men. I am tired of men that are obviously not happy not ending things whilst I try to get them back. Only for me to be the bad person when I eventually leave and suddenly their panic to fix things kicks in. Just have to try harder to not let women become unhappy but at least can judge how they feel. Guys don’t try and fix things until it’s too late on average. Women either fix things or work out that it isn’t going to happen sooner.
When guys don’t talk unless it’s really bad I think problems take longer to come up. Every guy that’s had an issue with me and obviously not been in love has barely communicated in the relationship. Then turned into a savant and able to talk about everything the moment I’ve left.
Women maybe panic to early and guys panic to late when nothing can be solved.
polomarkopolo on
I know it’s an anadoctale and a small sample size but of the six S-S Female couples I know, 4 of them are divorced and 2 of them are well well well on their way
Current-Community101 on
A. I hate so many of the comments on this thread. The rampant hatred of women.
B. The data is incredibly misleading, look at how many heterosexuals they used vs the other two groups.
C. Gay marriage is a very new thing legally in America. The data would be different because of it being a new thing vs heterosexuals having marriage and no fault legalized for a lot more years.
D. Lesbian, Gay, and Heterosexual relationships have different cultures surrounding marriage. A lot of little girls are told they need to settle down with someone when they grow up, a lot of little boys are encouraged to have a bachelors life, this grows into different cultures.
Dagger1901 on
Probably just useless data since the number of legal homosexual marriages 20 years ago was so low.
zimboptoo on
Obergefell v Hodges was only 10 years ago. Where are they getting the other 10 years of gay/lesbian marriage data? If it’s only pulling gay marriage data from states where it was legal pre-Obergefell, but straight marriage data from all states, that could be a potential confound.
Also. It’s weird that all 3 lines follow very similar trends (e.g. at 6 and 14 years). I’m not sure what that implies, but it seems odd.
Edit: Looks like ALL of the data was collected before Obergefell. So that’s… interesting. I feel like a participant’s personal definition of “formal union” might be a confound here.
jrunner6 on
God forbid women have a hobby.
Cleromanticon on
Is this the same bad survey that made it look like lesbian marriages fail at a higher rate than they actually do because it took women who divorced their husbands, then realized they were gay and so identified as lesbian on the survey, and put their divorces in the “female-female” dataset?
Ange_the_Avian on
Purely anecdotal but every lesbian I’ve met got married REALLY quick.
Swaggy_Buff on
Control for the average time spent dating before marrying. I’m guessing curves will look more similar.
Laughing at half this comment section equating marriage/divorces with successful/unsuccessful relationships. I know more unhappily married people than I know happy ones, divorce is not a bad thing when the relationship doesn’t work out. Yet there is a huge stigma around it in heterosexual relationships.
![[OC] Gay, Straight, and Lesbian Divorce Rates Over 20 Years](https://www.byteseu.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/rz19vsssxdof1-1024x916.png "[OC] Gay, Straight, and Lesbian Divorce Rates Over 20 Years")
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Data found in this study, [https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2378023119829312](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2378023119829312), and Datawrapper was used to graph.
Now separate out the repeat offenders and see the numbers plummet
Hmm so it seems that we should ban heterosexual marriages along with lesbian marriages, and promote gay marriages because they are the most stable.
Wow I did not realize that ~40% marriages end in separation. That’s surprising. That’s almost a 50/50 if a married person statistically dies married or not.
Now do domestic violence, it’s an even larger gap.
See what happens when you introduce women into a good thing! /s
All the lesbians are just celebrating how nowadays women have the right and opportunity to divorce
I firmly believe this is because of Borat and the all-too-common use of “Mai Waif.” M/M marriages often avoid this problem.
Sooo, women are the problem?
So the number of women in a relationship is a strong predictor for the likelihood of a relationship to end up in divorce… the numbers line up so perfectly it looks almost made up.
The boys bringing it home!
This proves men should , in order of priority ,
1. Stay single. Focus on work, interests and achieve greatness, satisfaction , accomplishment, validation and happiness
2. Be with another man, for physical needs, pure fun in doing things together and challenge each other to reach greater heights, be it a game of basketball, watching World Cup over pizza together, gym training, PlayStation, there’s so much endless fun!
3. stay away from women unless you want endless nagging, yelling, gaslighting, public drama, emotional blackmailing, guilt tripping, low quality rest for the rest of your lives. Save yourself and leave the ladies to their parents or their female best friends
Ladies these days are no longer the ladies of the yesteryears. Wake up, guys!
We are not born to kill the cockroaches, fix the bulb, set up wifi, carry groceries, chauffeur the ladies, work ourselves to death for their manicures, facials, hair perms, handbags, shoes expenses nonsense
What are the main causes of divorce between Lesbians? And also, what methodology was used for the study?
How many of those 59.1% had the Uhaul loaded up by the second date?
There’s only one lesson from this. The gays should marry the lesbians to promote successful marriages.
Boy, this sure attracted a certain type of Redditor.
Jim Jefferies does a bit on this subject – very amusing.
So maybe it’s not all our faults fellas
I wonder what percentage of each group had children.
Does this data reflect the number of divorces within lesbian marriages or does it reflect the number of lesbians to have been divorced ever? This distinction is very important because there are large numbers of lesbians who were in comp-het marriages that ended before they came out as lesbians. I suspect this data doesn’t reflect the lesbians who divorced men vs those that divorced women.
I would like to see a version of this chart that plots divorces relative to their population sizes. Last I checked, gay men had a lower rate of marriage than the other two groups too (I don’t know if that’s still the case). So this shows a higher rate of success in the marriages that do happen, but does that translate to a higher rate of lasting marriages overall?
Lesbians tend to get married more often, therefore divorce more. Gay men get married the least, that’s why when they do, the marriages tend to be more stable.
Not trying to be controversial but I would have expected the numbers to more or less level off after 5 or so years. It seams that is not the case as the number of divorces is still rising even 20 years into a marriage.
Given how often women are the ones pushed to leave bad relationships in Male/female relationships, i am not surprized in the slightest that the female/female relationships had higher divorce. The women are just less likely to stay in a bad relationship from my understanding.
What about the MMF and FFM thruples?
Not surprising, as lesbians seem to marry at the second date xD
Anecdotally, lesbians will get married asap and then discuss the deal breaker questions.
Gays will go a decade of being together and one day think ‘probably should make this legally official’.
So I think the female + female number is inflated because they are more likely to marry quickly.
So it would be interesting to see the same data but quick marriages vs very late marriages.
It may align similarly.
Guys probably don’t have kids, have more income, and are more likely to open the marriage up when they want other sexual partners without divorcing.
Kids, money, and sex are common reasons for divorce, and they’re less likely to experience those issues/stresses.
People making a big deal of gender, rightly. But I think a more interesting angle is the degree to which sexual fidelity is important in the marriage. Historically, sexual fidelity has not been as important among gay men as it is with other types of couples.
I think it would be interesting to see these stats in another 20 years. I know all this time there has been a lot of push and pull with marriage between people of the same gender and I know there are people who felt the pressure to get married to ‘prove’ legitimacy or whatever. Society is also just generally shitty when it comes to giving partners rights when they aren’t married but that’s another discussion.
I don’t think this could be studied but I’d be suuuuuuper curious of this same study but comparing straight, bi, and fully gay/lesbian folks instead
Wondering why at 6 and 14 years the line goes up a little bit
It’s strange that all three lines show the same bumps, seemingly just at different scales.
I wouldn’t expect this for significant data, especially since the MM and FF groups have little to no overlap.
I’m bi and I feel like a guy will hate you at times. Barely touch you or want sex at all, doesn’t even seem to want to talk. Yet they rarely ever leave… seen it in my own relationships and many friends.
So many men that don’t even seem to like their partners let alone love them, yet they don’t leave. Women will try to fix things a few times but if it doesn’t get better they will actually leave instead of staying unhappy forever.
I prefer the way women date to men. I am tired of men that are obviously not happy not ending things whilst I try to get them back. Only for me to be the bad person when I eventually leave and suddenly their panic to fix things kicks in. Just have to try harder to not let women become unhappy but at least can judge how they feel. Guys don’t try and fix things until it’s too late on average. Women either fix things or work out that it isn’t going to happen sooner.
When guys don’t talk unless it’s really bad I think problems take longer to come up. Every guy that’s had an issue with me and obviously not been in love has barely communicated in the relationship. Then turned into a savant and able to talk about everything the moment I’ve left.
Women maybe panic to early and guys panic to late when nothing can be solved.
I know it’s an anadoctale and a small sample size but of the six S-S Female couples I know, 4 of them are divorced and 2 of them are well well well on their way
A. I hate so many of the comments on this thread. The rampant hatred of women.
B. The data is incredibly misleading, look at how many heterosexuals they used vs the other two groups.
C. Gay marriage is a very new thing legally in America. The data would be different because of it being a new thing vs heterosexuals having marriage and no fault legalized for a lot more years.
D. Lesbian, Gay, and Heterosexual relationships have different cultures surrounding marriage. A lot of little girls are told they need to settle down with someone when they grow up, a lot of little boys are encouraged to have a bachelors life, this grows into different cultures.
Probably just useless data since the number of legal homosexual marriages 20 years ago was so low.
Obergefell v Hodges was only 10 years ago. Where are they getting the other 10 years of gay/lesbian marriage data? If it’s only pulling gay marriage data from states where it was legal pre-Obergefell, but straight marriage data from all states, that could be a potential confound.
Also. It’s weird that all 3 lines follow very similar trends (e.g. at 6 and 14 years). I’m not sure what that implies, but it seems odd.
Edit: Looks like ALL of the data was collected before Obergefell. So that’s… interesting. I feel like a participant’s personal definition of “formal union” might be a confound here.
God forbid women have a hobby.
Is this the same bad survey that made it look like lesbian marriages fail at a higher rate than they actually do because it took women who divorced their husbands, then realized they were gay and so identified as lesbian on the survey, and put their divorces in the “female-female” dataset?
Purely anecdotal but every lesbian I’ve met got married REALLY quick.
Control for the average time spent dating before marrying. I’m guessing curves will look more similar.
Per the [actual 2019 study this chart relies on](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2378023119829312), the sample size was quite small and there were many other factors involved in the study.
Laughing at half this comment section equating marriage/divorces with successful/unsuccessful relationships. I know more unhappily married people than I know happy ones, divorce is not a bad thing when the relationship doesn’t work out. Yet there is a huge stigma around it in heterosexual relationships.