You can promise all kinds of bollocks when you know you aren’t going to win
TheNotoriousJN on
I am gobsmacked. Is he trying to get lower and lower in the polls? Is it a race to the bottom? There is no way hes taking advice. Surely
The thing is. I *get* the idea of National Service. And its clear that the NATO governments are more worried than they have been in a while about a threat to them. As such, having more people who are qualified and able to fight if we get attacked is objectively a good thing for our security
But its baffling to have that as one of the first pledges. Absolutely mad
Irateasshole on
‘Responding, a Labour Party spokesperson said the announcement was “desperate” adding: “This is not a plan – it’s a review which could cost billions and is only needed because the Tories hollowed out the Armed Forces to their smallest size since Napoleon.” ‘
OrangeOfRetreat on
How to alienate every under 40 year old. Furthermore – military training for conscripts to a group of people who will loathe the government. Seems smart.
This is clearly an unserious policy and I’m pretty sure he wants to lose the election at this rate.
Documental38 on
The demographic this appeals to is the exact fucking opposite that it would impact. An absolute clown show of an idea.
outsideruk on
So it’s true, he’s actually hell bent on throwing the election so he can fuck off to the US as soon as possible.
Superschmoo on
Every day this guy says something that makes it increasingly obvious he wants to lose. Either that or we’re watching the greatest satire in history.
Front_Mention on
Fuck off, purely to appeal to baby boomers that like to pretend they fought ww2 and look at the conscription their parents experienced
The-Guy-Behind-You on
What the fuck are they *doing*? Genuinely, whose idea was this? Has anything recently suggested this will be anything but a massive voter loser? What is their plan here? Again, genuinely, what the fuck are they *doing*?
iCowboy on
Do the armed forces actually want conscripts? They be spent decades building a professional army and now this to assuage the front page of the Telegraph.
Millzy104 on
I wonder if it would include their children or just the pesents.
Longjumping_Stand889 on
Starmer should say he’ll bring back the Home Guard.
GastricallyStretched on
Well, no surprise that only 7% of those aged 18-24 are planning to vote Tory.
The Lib Dems, Greens and even Reform are all polling higher than the Tories (11% each) for that age bracket.
In the next age bracket of 25-49, Cons are polling at 13% (compared to Labour’s 57%).
Duanedoberman on
Well, i know they don’t have much of the youth vote, but he just lost what was left of it.
ChocoRamyeon on
They allow this to be reported as news at 10pm on a Saturday night knowing that most people won’t be paying attention. What on earth is this bizarre policy? At the same time, people love voting for things just to stick two fingers up at people at the people it’ll actually affect, so I bet some weirdos with big gobs and low IQs in the UK will support it.
BeardMonk1 on
While I support implementing a form of national service along the line of the model from Finland
This just sounds like desperation. Sunak is reaching into the basket of dildos, throwing it against the wall to see what it sticks to.
*edit* I should also point out that I was an instructor in the Cadets for 15 odd years. If the Cons were really bothered about young people having military based discipline and skills, they would have invest more funding into the Cadets rather than cutting their budgets.
Our_Modern_Dystopia on
Don’t worry guys, we can use our national conscrip… I mean ‘service‘ skills to violently overthrow the Tories!
Nulibru on
When most other countries had it, their Generals wished they hadn’t.
Good way of keeping the unemployment figures down, though.
Kijamon on
How about the elderly get forced to go litter picking every other weekend to earn their state pension? Doesn’t sound good?
Weird that.
KezziPom on
Surely he’s doing this to sabotage the tories winning, he can’t be serious about this, this would be extremely unpopular
dayus9 on
That’s one way to try and get some voters back from Reform.
negan90 on
Fully appealing to the “HANDS OFF OUR ROCK” brigade
SuperCorbynite on
We need boomer national service, where the retired boomers who have taken out massively more than they have ever contributed can make a positive contribution and pay back some fraction of what they owe to society.
Though one weekend a month for a year would be far far too little. It should be a full year full-time.
BlackShadowGlass on
Ok at this point he’s just trying to lose. His employer in California must have a fixed start date of asap
tifauk on
This isn’t a mistake that he’s said this.
Everything said is planned. I think they secretly want labour to win so they can spend the next term doing their best to unfuck what the Tories have done the past 14 years.
Then when labour can’t do it, Tories can turn around say “See, they can’t do it, you want us back now?”
Tories are the itchy feeling on your skin that keep you up at night.
Square_Weather_8137 on
wow he is really making sure the tories dont win and he can fuck off to america
DepressiveVortex on
‘yay let’s reintroduce discrimination against men that they have endured since time immemorial’– fuck off Sunak.
Ok-Albatross2009 on
As a teenager, if I wasn’t rooting for the tories before, the fact that they are going to send me off to war and take my phone has not persuaded me.
Appropriate-Divide64 on
National service is really popular amongst those who never did it and are now way to old and unfit to do it.
UuusernameWith4Us on
> Their other option would be to volunteer one weekend per month – or 25 days per year – in their community with organisations such as fire, police and the NHS.
What productive work could an untrained 18 year old even do for the NHS, police or fire service one weekend a month? You’d end up wasting productivity by having qualified adults allocated to supervising them.
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You can promise all kinds of bollocks when you know you aren’t going to win
I am gobsmacked. Is he trying to get lower and lower in the polls? Is it a race to the bottom? There is no way hes taking advice. Surely
The thing is. I *get* the idea of National Service. And its clear that the NATO governments are more worried than they have been in a while about a threat to them. As such, having more people who are qualified and able to fight if we get attacked is objectively a good thing for our security
But its baffling to have that as one of the first pledges. Absolutely mad
‘Responding, a Labour Party spokesperson said the announcement was “desperate” adding: “This is not a plan – it’s a review which could cost billions and is only needed because the Tories hollowed out the Armed Forces to their smallest size since Napoleon.” ‘
How to alienate every under 40 year old. Furthermore – military training for conscripts to a group of people who will loathe the government. Seems smart.
This is clearly an unserious policy and I’m pretty sure he wants to lose the election at this rate.
The demographic this appeals to is the exact fucking opposite that it would impact. An absolute clown show of an idea.
So it’s true, he’s actually hell bent on throwing the election so he can fuck off to the US as soon as possible.
Every day this guy says something that makes it increasingly obvious he wants to lose. Either that or we’re watching the greatest satire in history.
Fuck off, purely to appeal to baby boomers that like to pretend they fought ww2 and look at the conscription their parents experienced
What the fuck are they *doing*? Genuinely, whose idea was this? Has anything recently suggested this will be anything but a massive voter loser? What is their plan here? Again, genuinely, what the fuck are they *doing*?
Do the armed forces actually want conscripts? They be spent decades building a professional army and now this to assuage the front page of the Telegraph.
I wonder if it would include their children or just the pesents.
Starmer should say he’ll bring back the Home Guard.
Well, no surprise that only 7% of those aged 18-24 are planning to vote Tory.
The Lib Dems, Greens and even Reform are all polling higher than the Tories (11% each) for that age bracket.
In the next age bracket of 25-49, Cons are polling at 13% (compared to Labour’s 57%).
Well, i know they don’t have much of the youth vote, but he just lost what was left of it.
They allow this to be reported as news at 10pm on a Saturday night knowing that most people won’t be paying attention. What on earth is this bizarre policy? At the same time, people love voting for things just to stick two fingers up at people at the people it’ll actually affect, so I bet some weirdos with big gobs and low IQs in the UK will support it.
While I support implementing a form of national service along the line of the model from Finland
[Which can be military or civil service](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Finland#:~:text=Finnish%20conscripts%20swearing%20their%20military,about%2027%2C000%20conscripts%20are%20trained)
This just sounds like desperation. Sunak is reaching into the basket of dildos, throwing it against the wall to see what it sticks to.
*edit* I should also point out that I was an instructor in the Cadets for 15 odd years. If the Cons were really bothered about young people having military based discipline and skills, they would have invest more funding into the Cadets rather than cutting their budgets.
Don’t worry guys, we can use our national conscrip… I mean ‘service‘ skills to violently overthrow the Tories!
When most other countries had it, their Generals wished they hadn’t.
Good way of keeping the unemployment figures down, though.
How about the elderly get forced to go litter picking every other weekend to earn their state pension? Doesn’t sound good?
Weird that.
Surely he’s doing this to sabotage the tories winning, he can’t be serious about this, this would be extremely unpopular
That’s one way to try and get some voters back from Reform.
Fully appealing to the “HANDS OFF OUR ROCK” brigade
We need boomer national service, where the retired boomers who have taken out massively more than they have ever contributed can make a positive contribution and pay back some fraction of what they owe to society.
Though one weekend a month for a year would be far far too little. It should be a full year full-time.
Ok at this point he’s just trying to lose. His employer in California must have a fixed start date of asap
This isn’t a mistake that he’s said this.
Everything said is planned. I think they secretly want labour to win so they can spend the next term doing their best to unfuck what the Tories have done the past 14 years.
Then when labour can’t do it, Tories can turn around say “See, they can’t do it, you want us back now?”
Tories are the itchy feeling on your skin that keep you up at night.
wow he is really making sure the tories dont win and he can fuck off to america
‘yay let’s reintroduce discrimination against men that they have endured since time immemorial’– fuck off Sunak.
As a teenager, if I wasn’t rooting for the tories before, the fact that they are going to send me off to war and take my phone has not persuaded me.
National service is really popular amongst those who never did it and are now way to old and unfit to do it.
> Their other option would be to volunteer one weekend per month – or 25 days per year – in their community with organisations such as fire, police and the NHS.
What productive work could an untrained 18 year old even do for the NHS, police or fire service one weekend a month? You’d end up wasting productivity by having qualified adults allocated to supervising them.