“The excess amount, which Barclays said was based on people who already hold more than six months’ income in cash, underscores the challenge facing the government as it tries to funnel more money into investments.”
I presume this is going to mainly be retired people and folk saving for deposits etc who aren’t going to be wanting to risk the cash on short term fluctuations in the stock market.
beach-chicken10 on
UK government froths at the mouth as to how they can further tax this
boycecodd on
I find the use of the term “excess cash” weird.
Even if you’re young, there are many reasons why you might want to keep your savings in cash beyond just your emergency fund. If you’re saving up for a house deposit, home renovation, wedding or other big thing then you’re unlikely to want to risk that money on investments that might go down.
I do think though that public education of some kind would be beneficial regarding investments. A lot of people think it involves individual stock picking (I’ve been asked what stocks I recommend when I mention that I’ve got money in stocks and shares) and that’s understandably offputting. No investment is risk free by any means but it’s a lot less risky to chuck your money into an index tracker than try and guess which individual companies will do well.
As someone getting older, who has worked hard and saved, got no kids and have seen the state of social care and state pension ages, I’m calling it a survival fund, thanks.
We should absolutely encourage people to save so that they can live at a decent standard when they are older without resorting to the state. Using terms like “excess cash” doesn’t seem helpful.
Educational-Cry-1707 on
This is an average of roughly £10k/person in the UK, and even if you discount children (although older kids may have a few hundred to count towards this) it’s a perfectly reasonable amount of money to have in cash to cover unexpected expenses, periods of unemployment or even just saving up towards something. The Cash ISA allowance is double that.
crappy_ninja on
That’s less than the combined worth of the 2 richest people.
BlunanNation on
God forbid anyone in this country have more then 20 pounds to their name.
This sort of bullshit is the reason we are in this mess of no growth and shit productivity.
spaceninjaking on
The hype I don’t get around this is that what is most likely to happen off of a big push for moving cash savings to investments is that people will instead invest in global and specifically US equity/index funds, so whilst the average uk citizen may end up with more value in assets, actual uk companies won’t see much of a benefit besides the platforms and financial advisers, as nobody will be investing in them.
BobBobBobBobBobDave on
Savings aren’t excess cash.
They have savings, so that one day they might be able to retire, get on the property ladder, make home improvements, etc.
It isnt “excess” in any sense.
SingleFatherOf4 on
Like basically every other issue with this country, the Government needs some radical housing reform. They can keep lowering interest rates & try telling everyone how we need to spend to save the economy, but every young person is saving for a house & they’re going to keep living frugally & saving until they can get one. Once they have a house/aren’t paying all their income on rent, then they’ll have true excess to spend.
Instead they’ve always focussed on concentrating all the wealth into the older generations who already have everything they need & don’t spend at all
xcoatsyx on
The gov’t desperately wants this invested but is ignoring the demographics and importance of cash in various circumstances.
DiligentCockroach700 on
I have some savings but no way would I call it “excess cash”.
fresh2112 on
Excess? 6 monthly cycles of redundancy, 5%+ mortgage, on the ladder late at 38 and largely due to a bereavement kicking me enough money for a deposit.
Fuck all excess about it
greenpowerman99 on
Is that all, less than £9000 per person on average? Scary stuff…
SmashedWorm64 on
I understand that it makes sense for more people to be invested than holding cash savings… but the country lacks the financial education to do so.
If people invested without understanding what they were investing in, it would be a disaster.
Solidus27 on
Is this article a joke?
They want the state to raid all your savings to plug the holes in the rapidly deflating life boat that is the current British economy?
JaneTboy on
Unfortunately the government has taken out debts and unfunded pension liabilities of over £4 trillion, amounting to £110,000 per taxpayer, on our behalf. Which makes these savings a triviality.
BinThereRedThat on
Excess cash is such a horrible way to word it. As if it’s non sensical to have a savings pot.
Additional_Pickle_59 on
I bet only the 5-10% of highest earners have the majority of that figure.
Nonsense figure combining people with £20million and £200
Pen_dragons_pizza on
Well we need saved money as everything is so fragile.
I don’t know if I will have a job next year, and that’s been going on for years now, so I need savings.
If they sorted out the country then people wouldn’t feel the need to save so much.
Willywonka5725 on
How much of that £614bn is saved by someone with lots of money anyway? Take out the top 10% and see how much is actually being saved away.
Qweasdy on
Nice, we’re slightly richer than Elon musk. Though not as rich as musk + bezos I think
milkonyourmustache on
Hold onto your money and diversify where it’s held, we’ve been in an everything bubble for the better part of a decade and the only thing keeping things from collapse is total bullshit.
Zerttretttttt on
Oh no people saving money instead of spending it all and being broke and living pay check to pay check! 😮
Grenache on
Yeah we’re not the people Adam smith was talking about. It’s not our job to pump money in to the market that’s the job of the capitalists who are hoarding more and more wealth and now they’re exporting us to play and pay that part too? Fuck off.
greenpowerman99 on
Why doesn’t the government issue savings bonds to UK residents that offer a higher interest rate than the high street banks?
MrMantis765 on
I wonder how much of that is spread across society. My guess is 90% of those savings are wil the top 1% which just goes to show how much hoarding is going on
SirJedKingsdown on
I’m not going to be a shareholder. Fuck shareholders, they’re a blight on society.
Environmental_Move38 on
Tax remittances going outside of the UK is more a pressing issue. Start there.
ChickenPijja on
That’s not a lot really considering our population is somewhere between 65 and 70 million. I’d take a stab that the amount of “excess cash” depends on when in the month this figure is taken. For example, just after payday I’ve got a couple thousand in excess cash, but the day before payday I’ve got less than £50, I can’t invest that money as it’s needed for bills during the month. So saying theres £614bn available to invest is a distraction, most people need the money in “cash” to pay for things as they can’t invest it long term.
Aeceus on
Shame the government was too cowardly to do the ISA changes.
permaculture on
So you earn some money, and pay income tax on it.
Then you invest some in stocks and shares. And if it makes enough interest, you pay Capital Gains Tax on that.
Now you need to spend some of your investment. But if you take it out of the investment vehicle, you pay income tax on it again. Am I getting this wrong?
Prownilo on
I can’t speak for everyone, but I simply don’t trust the markets at the moment. Especially with the AI bubble that is surely going to burst
Since 2008 The markets seem to be mostly made up, carried on the whims of the super rich.
With orange cheeto in cheif making wild changes to things on a whim, I’m just not sure I trust anything at the moment.
GreatBigBagOfNope on
Savings are not excess cash. Savings are required to smooth out the ride over time in preparation for large costs whether deliberate or otherwise. Economically it’s a stock which shores up the flows of consumer spending. Trying to shame regular people for having eXcEsS cAsH in a cost of living crisis and a shite job market where anyone could find themselves needing to cover months of expenses is just absolutely wild.
NoYouCantHavePudding on
Hard earned savings are not “excess cash.” WTF is excess cash ? Unless I’m missing something obvious.
p14215 on
I have recently retired. Pension income covers daily needs. Most of my savings are in index funds, but I keep two to three years discretionary funds in a savings account to mitigate against adverse market movements. So I have about a year’s income in cash. Is that excessive? Possibly, but I’m comfortable with it.
OdBx on
I want to go on holiday, buy nicer furniture, get a new kitchen, convert my garage… that’s not “excess” cash, it’s my savings. Silly report.
UK_police_state_sux on
U.K. savers understand that the government is made up of the worst kinds of people; greedy childish politicians who have rarely been told “no”.
manemjeff42069 on
Invested globally that could return around £43bn a year
Fair_Use_9604 on
I have some savings and I fully expect the government to come and take them. This country is hopeless
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“The excess amount, which Barclays said was based on people who already hold more than six months’ income in cash, underscores the challenge facing the government as it tries to funnel more money into investments.”
I presume this is going to mainly be retired people and folk saving for deposits etc who aren’t going to be wanting to risk the cash on short term fluctuations in the stock market.
UK government froths at the mouth as to how they can further tax this
I find the use of the term “excess cash” weird.
Even if you’re young, there are many reasons why you might want to keep your savings in cash beyond just your emergency fund. If you’re saving up for a house deposit, home renovation, wedding or other big thing then you’re unlikely to want to risk that money on investments that might go down.
I do think though that public education of some kind would be beneficial regarding investments. A lot of people think it involves individual stock picking (I’ve been asked what stocks I recommend when I mention that I’ve got money in stocks and shares) and that’s understandably offputting. No investment is risk free by any means but it’s a lot less risky to chuck your money into an index tracker than try and guess which individual companies will do well.
Non-paywall article link
https://archive.is/2025.09.12-051025/https://www.ft.com/content/37af2ffd-0a82-4150-b89c-3d5390ea9062
As someone getting older, who has worked hard and saved, got no kids and have seen the state of social care and state pension ages, I’m calling it a survival fund, thanks.
We should absolutely encourage people to save so that they can live at a decent standard when they are older without resorting to the state. Using terms like “excess cash” doesn’t seem helpful.
This is an average of roughly £10k/person in the UK, and even if you discount children (although older kids may have a few hundred to count towards this) it’s a perfectly reasonable amount of money to have in cash to cover unexpected expenses, periods of unemployment or even just saving up towards something. The Cash ISA allowance is double that.
That’s less than the combined worth of the 2 richest people.
God forbid anyone in this country have more then 20 pounds to their name.
This sort of bullshit is the reason we are in this mess of no growth and shit productivity.
The hype I don’t get around this is that what is most likely to happen off of a big push for moving cash savings to investments is that people will instead invest in global and specifically US equity/index funds, so whilst the average uk citizen may end up with more value in assets, actual uk companies won’t see much of a benefit besides the platforms and financial advisers, as nobody will be investing in them.
Savings aren’t excess cash.
They have savings, so that one day they might be able to retire, get on the property ladder, make home improvements, etc.
It isnt “excess” in any sense.
Like basically every other issue with this country, the Government needs some radical housing reform. They can keep lowering interest rates & try telling everyone how we need to spend to save the economy, but every young person is saving for a house & they’re going to keep living frugally & saving until they can get one. Once they have a house/aren’t paying all their income on rent, then they’ll have true excess to spend.
Instead they’ve always focussed on concentrating all the wealth into the older generations who already have everything they need & don’t spend at all
The gov’t desperately wants this invested but is ignoring the demographics and importance of cash in various circumstances.
I have some savings but no way would I call it “excess cash”.
Excess? 6 monthly cycles of redundancy, 5%+ mortgage, on the ladder late at 38 and largely due to a bereavement kicking me enough money for a deposit.
Fuck all excess about it
Is that all, less than £9000 per person on average? Scary stuff…
I understand that it makes sense for more people to be invested than holding cash savings… but the country lacks the financial education to do so.
If people invested without understanding what they were investing in, it would be a disaster.
Is this article a joke?
They want the state to raid all your savings to plug the holes in the rapidly deflating life boat that is the current British economy?
Unfortunately the government has taken out debts and unfunded pension liabilities of over £4 trillion, amounting to £110,000 per taxpayer, on our behalf. Which makes these savings a triviality.
Excess cash is such a horrible way to word it. As if it’s non sensical to have a savings pot.
I bet only the 5-10% of highest earners have the majority of that figure.
Nonsense figure combining people with £20million and £200
Well we need saved money as everything is so fragile.
I don’t know if I will have a job next year, and that’s been going on for years now, so I need savings.
If they sorted out the country then people wouldn’t feel the need to save so much.
How much of that £614bn is saved by someone with lots of money anyway? Take out the top 10% and see how much is actually being saved away.
Nice, we’re slightly richer than Elon musk. Though not as rich as musk + bezos I think
Hold onto your money and diversify where it’s held, we’ve been in an everything bubble for the better part of a decade and the only thing keeping things from collapse is total bullshit.
Oh no people saving money instead of spending it all and being broke and living pay check to pay check! 😮
Yeah we’re not the people Adam smith was talking about. It’s not our job to pump money in to the market that’s the job of the capitalists who are hoarding more and more wealth and now they’re exporting us to play and pay that part too? Fuck off.
Why doesn’t the government issue savings bonds to UK residents that offer a higher interest rate than the high street banks?
I wonder how much of that is spread across society. My guess is 90% of those savings are wil the top 1% which just goes to show how much hoarding is going on
I’m not going to be a shareholder. Fuck shareholders, they’re a blight on society.
Tax remittances going outside of the UK is more a pressing issue. Start there.
That’s not a lot really considering our population is somewhere between 65 and 70 million. I’d take a stab that the amount of “excess cash” depends on when in the month this figure is taken. For example, just after payday I’ve got a couple thousand in excess cash, but the day before payday I’ve got less than £50, I can’t invest that money as it’s needed for bills during the month. So saying theres £614bn available to invest is a distraction, most people need the money in “cash” to pay for things as they can’t invest it long term.
Shame the government was too cowardly to do the ISA changes.
So you earn some money, and pay income tax on it.
Then you invest some in stocks and shares. And if it makes enough interest, you pay Capital Gains Tax on that.
Now you need to spend some of your investment. But if you take it out of the investment vehicle, you pay income tax on it again. Am I getting this wrong?
I can’t speak for everyone, but I simply don’t trust the markets at the moment. Especially with the AI bubble that is surely going to burst
Since 2008 The markets seem to be mostly made up, carried on the whims of the super rich.
With orange cheeto in cheif making wild changes to things on a whim, I’m just not sure I trust anything at the moment.
Savings are not excess cash. Savings are required to smooth out the ride over time in preparation for large costs whether deliberate or otherwise. Economically it’s a stock which shores up the flows of consumer spending. Trying to shame regular people for having eXcEsS cAsH in a cost of living crisis and a shite job market where anyone could find themselves needing to cover months of expenses is just absolutely wild.
Hard earned savings are not “excess cash.” WTF is excess cash ? Unless I’m missing something obvious.
I have recently retired. Pension income covers daily needs. Most of my savings are in index funds, but I keep two to three years discretionary funds in a savings account to mitigate against adverse market movements. So I have about a year’s income in cash. Is that excessive? Possibly, but I’m comfortable with it.
I want to go on holiday, buy nicer furniture, get a new kitchen, convert my garage… that’s not “excess” cash, it’s my savings. Silly report.
U.K. savers understand that the government is made up of the worst kinds of people; greedy childish politicians who have rarely been told “no”.
Invested globally that could return around £43bn a year
I have some savings and I fully expect the government to come and take them. This country is hopeless