A shadow minister defecting is huge. Could be the first of many.
benjymous on
> “The Conservatioves are over,” he told a Reform press conference, sittig alongside
BBC, Live reporting via potato(e)
Codydoc4 on
I’m starting to think Reform aren’t at all different from the Tories, considering the party is full of them. It’s just a lighter shade of blue on their rosette. Rats fleeing a sinking ship.
The tory party seems to be a sinking ship, and we already knew a lot of MPs were rats.
ConsciousStop on
Another ex-Tory to Reform to apparently fix all issues caused by Tories.
SkynBonce on
Tbf, Reform desperately needs Politicians who can actually Politic.
IndividualSkill3432 on
Devizes really is not Reform territory. They got 16% last election. Ironically even with the current polling he might be a Reform loss in 2029.
Otherwise I expect more. Doug Carswell and Mark Reckless can let you know how much fun it is to be in the Farage one man band show. Still does not change why Reform are polling well. Tories and their 1.8 million between 2021 and 2024 and the 18 years of low growth.
tunisia3507 on
Last time a far right party started making significant inroads into the Tory base, we got Brexit. What’s next?
Personal_Director441 on
clear from this that the brib….donations for Reform are a lot more lucrative than the tories.
_Born_To_Be_Mild_ on
Surely there’s political danger for farage in accepting too many ex tories.
Ok-Hedgehog-4455 on
I think he’s going to need to change seats if he wants to become a Reform MP. This looks like a Lib Dem rather than a Reform gain.
EolAncalimon on
So far the only reform they are doing is renaming the Tory Party.
sillysimon92 on
Who?
(Did a quick google, child of South African property developer immigrants, went to eton, worked at a conservative think thank then for the party directly then came in as a mp under Boris in the 2019 wave, jumped the sinking ship in 2022. Is one of those anti everything weird evangelical “christians” ) He’ll fit in well.
NoTitleChamp on
Another Johnson era defect. the irony, Reform is what it’s supporters are claiming to hate.
Sh3ffiel on
Reform could well be harmed by these defections. It’s hard to portray yourself as different when you’ve got all the same people who fucked it up in the first place.
The_Nunnster on
Surprised at this tbh. It’s a big gamble to defect before 2028/29. You’re relying on Reform maintaining their lead for the next four years without bottling it and falling to third place, or somehow the Tories making a comeback. It’s why I can’t see the likes of JRM defecting until that time, although I could be wrong.
limeflavoured on
Doesnt exactly help the perception that Reform are just the Tories but with different shades of blue.
IroquoisPliskin_UK on
When will Reform voters realise they are pretty much voting for Farage + 4 MP’s + however many Tory defections and think it’s a good idea?
dvb70 on
I know Reform are desperately in need of politicians with experience but you have to wonder how Reform supporters are going to view all of these Tories joining. It’s pretty nuts to allow people into the party that are primarily responsible for the current mess when it comes to immigration. The Tories turbo charged immigration issues over their terms in government particularly when it comes to be Boriswave but now that’s being forgotten and they are the people to fix the mess they created.
DPBH on
It’s like the other side of the Ship of Theseus paradox.
If you use all the decayed/discarded parts of a ship to build a new one, isn’t the new ship just a worse version of the original?
ToxicHazard- on
Can someone explain why this is allowed?
East Wiltshire voted to be represented by a conservative MP – with 35.7% of the vote.
Labour got 25.7%
Lib Dem got 17.4%
Reform got 16.7%
So they’re now being represented by the 4th most votes.
FTXACCOUNTANT on
Reform are just gonna be stories trying to fix their own doing.
FBI_psyop on
The cognitive dissonance here in this sub is insane.
Reform is supposedly a “far right party” that will end human rights for dark skinned people but at the same time they are also the tories 2.0 and nothing will change.
Defiant_Ad_2762 on
An Evangelical Christian. He’ll fit right in with the Reform MAGA mind set.
EditorRedditer on
An Evangelist who has also expressed support for the decriminalisation of psilocybin.
Interesting mix…
Tartan_Samurai on
Is this the Evangelical Christian guy who opposed the Assisted Dying Bill?
PatrickTheSosij on
My mate has literally said “reform aren’t what we expected” he wants advance UK. Do with that what you will, but it looks like some people are actually changing their views with them grabbing all of the ex tories.
Ill_Temporary_9509 on
Any MP who changes party mid term should have to contest their seat in a by election. You were voted in because of your connect to one party and their policies, but as you’ve switched you no longer represent what you were elected for
Powerful-Respond-605 on
A clear example of the Danny-Kruger effect in full force.
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A shadow minister defecting is huge. Could be the first of many.
> “The Conservatioves are over,” he told a Reform press conference, sittig alongside
BBC, Live reporting via potato(e)
I’m starting to think Reform aren’t at all different from the Tories, considering the party is full of them. It’s just a lighter shade of blue on their rosette. Rats fleeing a sinking ship.
Edit: [Look’s like he’ll fit right in.](https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/24756020.mp-danny-kruger-investigated-watchdog-assisted-dying-funds/)
The tory party seems to be a sinking ship, and we already knew a lot of MPs were rats.
Another ex-Tory to Reform to apparently fix all issues caused by Tories.
Tbf, Reform desperately needs Politicians who can actually Politic.
Devizes really is not Reform territory. They got 16% last election. Ironically even with the current polling he might be a Reform loss in 2029.
Otherwise I expect more. Doug Carswell and Mark Reckless can let you know how much fun it is to be in the Farage one man band show. Still does not change why Reform are polling well. Tories and their 1.8 million between 2021 and 2024 and the 18 years of low growth.
Last time a far right party started making significant inroads into the Tory base, we got Brexit. What’s next?
clear from this that the brib….donations for Reform are a lot more lucrative than the tories.
Surely there’s political danger for farage in accepting too many ex tories.
I think he’s going to need to change seats if he wants to become a Reform MP. This looks like a Lib Dem rather than a Reform gain.
So far the only reform they are doing is renaming the Tory Party.
Who?
(Did a quick google, child of South African property developer immigrants, went to eton, worked at a conservative think thank then for the party directly then came in as a mp under Boris in the 2019 wave, jumped the sinking ship in 2022. Is one of those anti everything weird evangelical “christians” ) He’ll fit in well.
Another Johnson era defect. the irony, Reform is what it’s supporters are claiming to hate.
Reform could well be harmed by these defections. It’s hard to portray yourself as different when you’ve got all the same people who fucked it up in the first place.
Surprised at this tbh. It’s a big gamble to defect before 2028/29. You’re relying on Reform maintaining their lead for the next four years without bottling it and falling to third place, or somehow the Tories making a comeback. It’s why I can’t see the likes of JRM defecting until that time, although I could be wrong.
Doesnt exactly help the perception that Reform are just the Tories but with different shades of blue.
When will Reform voters realise they are pretty much voting for Farage + 4 MP’s + however many Tory defections and think it’s a good idea?
I know Reform are desperately in need of politicians with experience but you have to wonder how Reform supporters are going to view all of these Tories joining. It’s pretty nuts to allow people into the party that are primarily responsible for the current mess when it comes to immigration. The Tories turbo charged immigration issues over their terms in government particularly when it comes to be Boriswave but now that’s being forgotten and they are the people to fix the mess they created.
It’s like the other side of the Ship of Theseus paradox.
If you use all the decayed/discarded parts of a ship to build a new one, isn’t the new ship just a worse version of the original?
Can someone explain why this is allowed?
East Wiltshire voted to be represented by a conservative MP – with 35.7% of the vote.
Labour got 25.7%
Lib Dem got 17.4%
Reform got 16.7%
So they’re now being represented by the 4th most votes.
Reform are just gonna be stories trying to fix their own doing.
The cognitive dissonance here in this sub is insane.
Reform is supposedly a “far right party” that will end human rights for dark skinned people but at the same time they are also the tories 2.0 and nothing will change.
An Evangelical Christian. He’ll fit right in with the Reform MAGA mind set.
An Evangelist who has also expressed support for the decriminalisation of psilocybin.
Interesting mix…
Is this the Evangelical Christian guy who opposed the Assisted Dying Bill?
My mate has literally said “reform aren’t what we expected” he wants advance UK. Do with that what you will, but it looks like some people are actually changing their views with them grabbing all of the ex tories.
Any MP who changes party mid term should have to contest their seat in a by election. You were voted in because of your connect to one party and their policies, but as you’ve switched you no longer represent what you were elected for
A clear example of the Danny-Kruger effect in full force.