Writing here as sub doesn’t allow self text. ECHR protects everyone. If this goes through British citizens rights will also be affected. It’s voting your own rights away to spite others and make things difficult for them.
jtthom on
Remember when the Tories celebrated taking away YOUR freedom of movement? This is like that – but dumber
Fellowes321 on
Which legal rights does she want to take away from every British citizen?
winmace on
So Badenoch is against human rights now, I am absolutely *shocked* that a Tory would be so self serving and openly want to discriminate against the public.
Visa5e on
Giving up your own rights because you don’t want others to have them either is a special kind of stupid.
pertweescobratattoo on
Like everything Badenoch says, this feels so pathetic and desperate.
plawwell on
The death of a political party accelerates as the desperation sets in. It’s like a wound spilling blood that you will do absolutely anything to stem the flow. Here the blood is voters fleeing from the Tory cesspit. Things like what she says here will just cause the decline to go nuclear as she can say and promise anything. Tory party is dead.
True_Sir_4382 on
People are listening to a near dead party, why again?
Diligent_Craft_1165 on
If anyone is considering this they should have the replacement drafted so the public can decide whether to vote for them or not.
PeterG92 on
They’re so desperate to be Reform, it’s embarrassing.
Actual-Tower8609 on
The Tories have a choice is going far right or taking the centre ground.
With Labour imploding, the centre ground is there for the taking.
But they are going for the far right.
Greedy-Mechanic-4932 on
She wouldn’t be drawn on this on the radio yesterday, it was painfully obvious she was in favour of leaving though.
She also mentioned the Rwanda plans got scrapped because the law needed changing on how legislation is brought in (or words to that effect)? Anyone know what she was talking about?
Key-Swordfish4467 on
Too fucking late to play this card now. The Tories are totally and completely fucked.
Top_Country_6336 on
We are not ‘in’ the ECHR, we signed up to make it part of UK law and we did. It is in UK law as the Human Rights Act. So they literally want to take away our UK Human Rights. For anyone who doesn’t know what they are it is everything from life to privacy, health, education, family, religion, freedom of speech, association. Every thing that keeps a government controlled by Oligarchs from just turning us back into serfs working for a few overlords. So fuck you Bad Enoch.
Emotional-Ebb8321 on
Churchill would be ashamed of what has become of his party.
_L_R_S_ on
This is like cutting off your leg because you can’t get rid of an annoying verruca.
GameJon on
From the basic research I’ve seen recently, a lot of the ECHR is written in a way that can be interpreted softly or harshly based on local law. “Except in cases of domestic law / under reasonable conditions” etc. Seems like the ECHR isn’t the problem, rather the political leanings of judges who enforce it.
Time-Mode-9 on
This is all thanks to Boris Johnson’s purge of the sane Tories
Phainesthai on
Is there not a middle ground where we have laws to protect our human rights while still allowing us to deport foreign pedophiles, even if their home country prisons are not nice to pedophiles?
Am I taking crazy pills? Is that not possible?
Why does it always feel like it’s either ‘no rights’ or ‘pedophiles get to stay because no one likes them’?
Those can’t be the only two way to organise ourselves as a society.
Outofcatatonia on
Conservatives ain’t doing shit bruh 😂 Put the fries in the bag
wormtickler on
The mess we’re in now was created by 14 years of Tory government.
Anyone wanting Tories back in needs to look at the mess we’re in now and seriously give themselves a reality check.
Their handling of COVID and everything since was an absolute shambles.
The Tories aren’t going to make things better. They’re a stain on British politics, much like Reform will be should they ever be given any sort of power.
TVPaulD on
Jeez, Kemi, we’re already not going to vote for your Party, you don’t have to keep convincing us
trapezoidfarm on
No legal representation.
No jury or fair trial.
No protection from the state overreach.
No protection against employers.
No support for the vulnerable.
No right to free access for basic services. No privacy.
The future is bleak. I wonder which freemason illuminati mossad lizard agents are pushing this behind the scenes.
chrisyt1972 on
She’s as thick as shit.
Don’t know why they publish the bollocks she spouts
OneMonk on
Just to remind everyone, these are the core rights of the ECHR, and just how batshit evil farrage and badenoch are for wanting to leave.
Core rights under the ECHR
1. Right to life (Article 2)
The state must protect life and properly investigate deaths involving state authorities.
2. Prohibition of torture and inhuman or degrading treatment (Article 3)
Absolute ban on torture or cruel treatment—applies in all circumstances.
3. Prohibition of slavery and forced labour (Article 4)
4. Right to liberty and security (Article 5)
Protects against unlawful detention and gives rights to challenge detention.
5. Right to a fair trial (Article 6)
Includes the right to an independent tribunal, presumption of innocence, and legal defence.
6. No punishment without law (Article 7)
You can’t be convicted of an act that wasn’t a crime when it was committed.
7. Right to respect for private and family life (Article 8)
Covers privacy, home, correspondence, and family life, subject to restrictions that are lawful and necessary (e.g. for national security).
8. Freedom of thought, conscience, and religion (Article 9)
9. Freedom of expression (Article 10)
Protects speech, media, and information, subject to lawful limits (e.g. incitement to violence).
10. Freedom of assembly and association (Article 11)
Protects protest, trade unions, and political groups.
11. Right to marry (Article 12)
12. Prohibition of discrimination (Article 14)
Rights must be secured without discrimination (sex, race, religion, political opinion, etc.).
additional protocols the UK has accepted
• Protection of property (Protocol 1, Article 1) – peaceful enjoyment of possessions.
• Right to education (Protocol 1, Article 2).
• Right to free elections (Protocol 1, Article 3).
BlindStupidDesperate on
Badenoch could promise to broadcast state secrets and hard-core pornography instead of the 10 o’clock news every night on BBC1, and she still wouldn’t get anybody to vote for her…
ljwdt90 on
Honestly this is a really shit idea, but even if Kemi came out with a great idea, I still wouldn’t vote for her or her dead party.
rwinh on
>“not come to this decision lightly, but it is clear that it is necessary to protect our borders, our veterans and our citizens”.
Veterans? What is this? This dim as feck light bulb that’s casting a shadow thinks the ECHR doesn’t protect citizens and veterans (whatever they’ve got to do with it in particular), at all?
Removing ourselves from the ECHR to tackle immigration is not just cutting off your nose to spite your face, it’s ripping it off completely because it doesn’t look right in particular lighting.
It’s bad enough that her and her supporters shot themselves in the foot over the EU Referendum, but now they’re stupid enough to go after the other foot to make matters exceedingly worse for themselves and everyone else.
ThenComparison8768 on
I think if I read correctly some time ago there are currently only 2 other nations not part of the echr they are Russia and Belarus I would rather not be associated with either of those nations
OkMap3209 on
Notice how there is no plan on protecting any of the rights we actually want to protect from the ECHR. Without a plan to protect those rights you have to assume the worst.
joleph on
The ECHR was one of Winston Churchill’s greatest achievements. And here we are.
Jazzlike_Method_7642 on
Why the hell are people cheering for a way more shit world?
MiniCale on
Step 1 – Encourage xenophobic behaviour and spread hate
Step 2 – Convince the public Human Rights needs to be removed
Step 3 – Screw over the working class
Step 4 – Profit
Admirable-Dark2934 on
They took everything else in their last sitting. That’s probably the only thing left.
vaskopopa on
This is the person who campaigned hard for BREXIT and who still won’t acknowledge the damage it caused.
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Writing here as sub doesn’t allow self text. ECHR protects everyone. If this goes through British citizens rights will also be affected. It’s voting your own rights away to spite others and make things difficult for them.
Remember when the Tories celebrated taking away YOUR freedom of movement? This is like that – but dumber
Which legal rights does she want to take away from every British citizen?
So Badenoch is against human rights now, I am absolutely *shocked* that a Tory would be so self serving and openly want to discriminate against the public.
Giving up your own rights because you don’t want others to have them either is a special kind of stupid.
Like everything Badenoch says, this feels so pathetic and desperate.
The death of a political party accelerates as the desperation sets in. It’s like a wound spilling blood that you will do absolutely anything to stem the flow. Here the blood is voters fleeing from the Tory cesspit. Things like what she says here will just cause the decline to go nuclear as she can say and promise anything. Tory party is dead.
People are listening to a near dead party, why again?
If anyone is considering this they should have the replacement drafted so the public can decide whether to vote for them or not.
They’re so desperate to be Reform, it’s embarrassing.
The Tories have a choice is going far right or taking the centre ground.
With Labour imploding, the centre ground is there for the taking.
But they are going for the far right.
She wouldn’t be drawn on this on the radio yesterday, it was painfully obvious she was in favour of leaving though.
She also mentioned the Rwanda plans got scrapped because the law needed changing on how legislation is brought in (or words to that effect)? Anyone know what she was talking about?
Too fucking late to play this card now. The Tories are totally and completely fucked.
We are not ‘in’ the ECHR, we signed up to make it part of UK law and we did. It is in UK law as the Human Rights Act. So they literally want to take away our UK Human Rights. For anyone who doesn’t know what they are it is everything from life to privacy, health, education, family, religion, freedom of speech, association. Every thing that keeps a government controlled by Oligarchs from just turning us back into serfs working for a few overlords. So fuck you Bad Enoch.
Churchill would be ashamed of what has become of his party.
This is like cutting off your leg because you can’t get rid of an annoying verruca.
From the basic research I’ve seen recently, a lot of the ECHR is written in a way that can be interpreted softly or harshly based on local law. “Except in cases of domestic law / under reasonable conditions” etc. Seems like the ECHR isn’t the problem, rather the political leanings of judges who enforce it.
This is all thanks to Boris Johnson’s purge of the sane Tories
Is there not a middle ground where we have laws to protect our human rights while still allowing us to deport foreign pedophiles, even if their home country prisons are not nice to pedophiles?
Am I taking crazy pills? Is that not possible?
Why does it always feel like it’s either ‘no rights’ or ‘pedophiles get to stay because no one likes them’?
Those can’t be the only two way to organise ourselves as a society.
Conservatives ain’t doing shit bruh 😂 Put the fries in the bag
The mess we’re in now was created by 14 years of Tory government.
Anyone wanting Tories back in needs to look at the mess we’re in now and seriously give themselves a reality check.
Their handling of COVID and everything since was an absolute shambles.
The Tories aren’t going to make things better. They’re a stain on British politics, much like Reform will be should they ever be given any sort of power.
Jeez, Kemi, we’re already not going to vote for your Party, you don’t have to keep convincing us
No legal representation.
No jury or fair trial.
No protection from the state overreach.
No protection against employers.
No support for the vulnerable.
No right to free access for basic services. No privacy.
The future is bleak. I wonder which freemason illuminati mossad lizard agents are pushing this behind the scenes.
She’s as thick as shit.
Don’t know why they publish the bollocks she spouts
Just to remind everyone, these are the core rights of the ECHR, and just how batshit evil farrage and badenoch are for wanting to leave.
Core rights under the ECHR
1. Right to life (Article 2)
The state must protect life and properly investigate deaths involving state authorities.
2. Prohibition of torture and inhuman or degrading treatment (Article 3)
Absolute ban on torture or cruel treatment—applies in all circumstances.
3. Prohibition of slavery and forced labour (Article 4)
4. Right to liberty and security (Article 5)
Protects against unlawful detention and gives rights to challenge detention.
5. Right to a fair trial (Article 6)
Includes the right to an independent tribunal, presumption of innocence, and legal defence.
6. No punishment without law (Article 7)
You can’t be convicted of an act that wasn’t a crime when it was committed.
7. Right to respect for private and family life (Article 8)
Covers privacy, home, correspondence, and family life, subject to restrictions that are lawful and necessary (e.g. for national security).
8. Freedom of thought, conscience, and religion (Article 9)
9. Freedom of expression (Article 10)
Protects speech, media, and information, subject to lawful limits (e.g. incitement to violence).
10. Freedom of assembly and association (Article 11)
Protects protest, trade unions, and political groups.
11. Right to marry (Article 12)
12. Prohibition of discrimination (Article 14)
Rights must be secured without discrimination (sex, race, religion, political opinion, etc.).
additional protocols the UK has accepted
• Protection of property (Protocol 1, Article 1) – peaceful enjoyment of possessions.
• Right to education (Protocol 1, Article 2).
• Right to free elections (Protocol 1, Article 3).
Badenoch could promise to broadcast state secrets and hard-core pornography instead of the 10 o’clock news every night on BBC1, and she still wouldn’t get anybody to vote for her…
Honestly this is a really shit idea, but even if Kemi came out with a great idea, I still wouldn’t vote for her or her dead party.
>“not come to this decision lightly, but it is clear that it is necessary to protect our borders, our veterans and our citizens”.
Veterans? What is this? This dim as feck light bulb that’s casting a shadow thinks the ECHR doesn’t protect citizens and veterans (whatever they’ve got to do with it in particular), at all?
Removing ourselves from the ECHR to tackle immigration is not just cutting off your nose to spite your face, it’s ripping it off completely because it doesn’t look right in particular lighting.
It’s bad enough that her and her supporters shot themselves in the foot over the EU Referendum, but now they’re stupid enough to go after the other foot to make matters exceedingly worse for themselves and everyone else.
I think if I read correctly some time ago there are currently only 2 other nations not part of the echr they are Russia and Belarus I would rather not be associated with either of those nations
Notice how there is no plan on protecting any of the rights we actually want to protect from the ECHR. Without a plan to protect those rights you have to assume the worst.
The ECHR was one of Winston Churchill’s greatest achievements. And here we are.
Why the hell are people cheering for a way more shit world?
Step 1 – Encourage xenophobic behaviour and spread hate
Step 2 – Convince the public Human Rights needs to be removed
Step 3 – Screw over the working class
Step 4 – Profit
They took everything else in their last sitting. That’s probably the only thing left.
This is the person who campaigned hard for BREXIT and who still won’t acknowledge the damage it caused.