I think regardless of background, who they pledge to, what their motives are, it’s pretty evident that whoever is doing these sort of attacks is suffering with mental health issues.
It’s not normal behaviour at all, the majority of people wouldn’t dream of doing it and as much as people want to blame religion or certain cultures, I feel like it’s more likely people who aren’t in a very good places mentally, who are easier to trick and groom into some of societies worst crimes.
AnilP228 on
Last time I checked, 80% of MI5’s case load is spent on Islamists /Jihadist. It does make you wonder how close we are to incidents like this all the time, we just never know thanks to great police work.
KernowKermit on
Maybe we should have something like the pledge of allegiance to the USA. Hand on the holy book, renounce all allegiance to anything else etc.
Remarkable_Misty on
But gary neville said it was the middle age white man that caused it?
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kaziuma on
More young British Muslim men have left the UK to join ISIS and other terrorist groups, and fight and kill in the name of Islam, than are in the British army. Some clearly join ISIS without leaving though….
There is a clear problem of extreme ideology within this demographic, it simply cannot be ignored any more, despite how deeply terrified our government is of “Islamaphobia”, even going as far as to attempt to ratify specific laws for Islamaphobia, seemingly forgetting that laws surrounding all religious speech already exist.
IndividualSkill3432 on
>Sir Stephen said:” There is a limit to what I can say at this juncture in terms of the dynamics of that investigation.
>”Suffice to say that we know that there are answers that people require, and those answers will be forthcoming as soon as it is appropriate to give them.
>”I do want to reassure people that no stone is being left unturned.”
So all he did was phone the police to announce his allegiance to ISIS? Did he not offer a motivation for his choice of target? Or perhaps were his comments on his choice of target not something the police wish the public to hear.
I have to admit some cynicism at the police and their keenness to manage stories. I suspect he was a little more forthcoming that has been said here.
Gladys_5 on
Wait I thought it was the police officer who shot someone?
d333my on
When the investigation of crimes like this are concluded, information on how they were radicalised needs to be properly publicised.
There are a lot of Muslim parents out there that just want a better life for their kids, and worry about who or what might be exposed to online. It’s very difficult for parents to manage this.
Civil-Dentist-1280 on
Reminder that in 21st century UK –
Majority of terror attacks: Islamist
Worst attack against children: Islamist
Worst attack against LGTBQ: Islamist
Worst attack against Jews: Islamist
Highest % of terror deaths: Islamist
Majority of Mi5 caseload: Islamist
Why aren’t we talking about this more?
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loginisverybroken on
I’m just flabbergasted, shocked and bamboozled.
/s
snowkingg on
Gary Neville: How could white working class men do this.
ThatGuyMaulicious on
But yeah importing them by the motherload isn’t an issue its the racists. There is a reason that most of counter terror cases are islamist extremists
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I think regardless of background, who they pledge to, what their motives are, it’s pretty evident that whoever is doing these sort of attacks is suffering with mental health issues.
It’s not normal behaviour at all, the majority of people wouldn’t dream of doing it and as much as people want to blame religion or certain cultures, I feel like it’s more likely people who aren’t in a very good places mentally, who are easier to trick and groom into some of societies worst crimes.
Last time I checked, 80% of MI5’s case load is spent on Islamists /Jihadist. It does make you wonder how close we are to incidents like this all the time, we just never know thanks to great police work.
Maybe we should have something like the pledge of allegiance to the USA. Hand on the holy book, renounce all allegiance to anything else etc.
But gary neville said it was the middle age white man that caused it?
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More young British Muslim men have left the UK to join ISIS and other terrorist groups, and fight and kill in the name of Islam, than are in the British army. Some clearly join ISIS without leaving though….
There is a clear problem of extreme ideology within this demographic, it simply cannot be ignored any more, despite how deeply terrified our government is of “Islamaphobia”, even going as far as to attempt to ratify specific laws for Islamaphobia, seemingly forgetting that laws surrounding all religious speech already exist.
>Sir Stephen said:” There is a limit to what I can say at this juncture in terms of the dynamics of that investigation.
>”Suffice to say that we know that there are answers that people require, and those answers will be forthcoming as soon as it is appropriate to give them.
>”I do want to reassure people that no stone is being left unturned.”
So all he did was phone the police to announce his allegiance to ISIS? Did he not offer a motivation for his choice of target? Or perhaps were his comments on his choice of target not something the police wish the public to hear.
I have to admit some cynicism at the police and their keenness to manage stories. I suspect he was a little more forthcoming that has been said here.
Wait I thought it was the police officer who shot someone?
When the investigation of crimes like this are concluded, information on how they were radicalised needs to be properly publicised.
There are a lot of Muslim parents out there that just want a better life for their kids, and worry about who or what might be exposed to online. It’s very difficult for parents to manage this.
Reminder that in 21st century UK –
Majority of terror attacks: Islamist
Worst attack against children: Islamist
Worst attack against LGTBQ: Islamist
Worst attack against Jews: Islamist
Highest % of terror deaths: Islamist
Majority of Mi5 caseload: Islamist
Why aren’t we talking about this more?
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I’m just flabbergasted, shocked and bamboozled.
/s
Gary Neville: How could white working class men do this.
But yeah importing them by the motherload isn’t an issue its the racists. There is a reason that most of counter terror cases are islamist extremists